Massaccesi Handbags

[orchidmyst]

So I have a dilemma I need help with. Marco emailed me to say that they had accidentally produced my cobalt, Persian green, and dark blue laminato Sabrina as a midi, not a regular sized bag. Normally they'd just make another one in regular size, no problem, but they don't have enough Persian green for a regular size. He asked me if the Midi would work (obviously with a refund of the difference) or if they should go ahead and order more Persian green from the tannery.

I wrote back to say that I don't think the Midi will be big enough for my purposes, but I hate the thought of the extra work and cost to him to produce a regular size; would it be a huge issue and inconvienience to produce a regular size? He wrote back to and said that the actual production of the regular size isn't an issue at all but that the tannery would have to produce at least a set of 10 skins.

He also said the tannery has two skins of a stamped Persian green. He sent me a photo, which I included below. Unfortunately though, I don't like it nearly as much as the regular Persian green. I think the stamping would look too busy with the other two metallic colors, and the color itself looks far more grass green to me than the Persian Green.
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I don't love the stamped version of the leather. There is also no other leather I'd like to substitute in for the Persian green with the cobalt and dark blue, and there is no other combination of leathers from his current offerings I want for this bag. I also hate the idea of him needing to order 10 skins of the leather just for my one bag. If feels just wrong for me to ask him put in that cost and investment on my behalf. Also, based on the photo above, I'm slightly worried that if the tannery produces a new order, it won't be quite the same shade as the original Persian green. However, this is a bag I was SO excited for, particularly this exact color combo. I could take the Midi as a Midi was potentially on my list for sometime down the line, but I really really had my heart set on using this as a fun, flashy everyday bag, and I just don't think the Midi will be big enough for that. I would need it to fit a Chanel WOC, a pouch approx. the size of a Flora, two smaller pouches about 3.5"x5.5" each, LV round coin purse, a card holder about 4"x3"x1", sunglasses w/case, LV key class, iPhone 11 at a minimum - all the items on the left in the photo below. Ideally, it would also be able to fit one or more of the additional items I sometimes, but not always, carry on the right: a water bottle, a pair of leggings, checkbook, set of pens, and planner. I just don't think that will all fit in the Midi (but please, please, let me know if I am wrong!)
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So, it seems like I'm left with the option of taking the Midi or making Marco order all 10 skins for my one bag. Neither seem like a great option as the Midi doesn't work out the best for me and the way I wanted to use the bag, and a new order of skins doesn't work out all that well for Marco (and, given my concerns about the possible shade of a new order, may not work out all that well for me either). Thoughts on what I should do?

As a side note, I really really hesitated on posting this because I am not trying to bash Marco at all. I still love him and his company and his work. He is a human making custom bags, and I get that mistakes happen - especially when dealing with customizations. I ultimately am posting though because I could really use some guidance. I have no idea how to move forward with this.

If you feel more comfortable with your original order of the larger size, then stay with it.
I think with the mistake, Marco was just giving you different options to consider.
Get the bag that you want.

There used to be group bespoke for a certain leather where a minimum number of orders were needed to purchase the leather. I think we can think of this situation as a group bespoke for the Persian Green Metallic. This is an extremely beautiful color and would stand out in any style. I remember there was some interest in this leather. Would anyone want to order?

The Soulmate style has been popular lately with this leather but here is my Selene Midi in Persian Green Metallic.


To show you different styles:
This is the Penelope in the Celeste Laminato Metallic.

Little Athena in Cobalt Blue Laminato Metallic

 

[southernbelle43]

One question for Sabrina owners, I envision myself carrying it using the strap, with both flaps on one side, like in these pictures. Since I noticed that the strap attachment is not right at the end, but under the flap, does the top flap tend to lift up at the sides when carried in this manner?

I have one in orange Tuscania. I carry it with the flaps one on each side. Maybe it is designed so that you carry it with both flaps on one side when it is being used as a clutch?

 

[southernbelle43]

So I have a dilemma I need help with. Marco emailed me to say that they had accidentally produced my cobalt, Persian green, and dark blue laminato Sabrina as a midi, not a regular sized bag. Normally they'd just make another one in regular size, no problem, but they don't have enough Persian green for a regular size. He asked me if the Midi would work (obviously with a refund of the difference) or if they should go ahead and order more Persian green from the tannery.

I wrote back to say that I don't think the Midi will be big enough for my purposes, but I hate the thought of the extra work and cost to him to produce a regular size; would it be a huge issue and inconvienience to produce a regular size? He wrote back to and said that the actual production of the regular size isn't an issue at all but that the tannery would have to produce at least a set of 10 skins.

He also said the tannery has two skins of a stamped Persian green. He sent me a photo, which I included below. Unfortunately though, I don't like it nearly as much as the regular Persian green. I think the stamping would look too busy with the other two metallic colors, and the color itself looks far more grass green to me than the Persian Green.
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I don't love the stamped version of the leather. There is also no other leather I'd like to substitute in for the Persian green with the cobalt and dark blue, and there is no other combination of leathers from his current offerings I want for this bag. I also hate the idea of him needing to order 10 skins of the leather just for my one bag. If feels just wrong for me to ask him put in that cost and investment on my behalf. Also, based on the photo above, I'm slightly worried that if the tannery produces a new order, it won't be quite the same shade as the original Persian green. However, this is a bag I was SO excited for, particularly this exact color combo. I could take the Midi as a Midi was potentially on my list for sometime down the line, but I really really had my heart set on using this as a fun, flashy everyday bag, and I just don't think the Midi will be big enough for that. I would need it to fit a Chanel WOC, a pouch approx. the size of a Flora, two smaller pouches about 3.5"x5.5" each, LV round coin purse, a card holder about 4"x3"x1", sunglasses w/case, LV key class, iPhone 11 at a minimum - all the items on the left in the photo below. Ideally, it would also be able to fit one or more of the additional items I sometimes, but not always, carry on the right: a water bottle, a pair of leggings, checkbook, set of pens, and planner. I just don't think that will all fit in the Midi (but please, please, let me know if I am wrong!)
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So, it seems like I'm left with the option of taking the Midi or making Marco order all 10 skins for my one bag. Neither seem like a great option as the Midi doesn't work out the best for me and the way I wanted to use the bag, and a new order of skins doesn't work out all that well for Marco (and, given my concerns about the possible shade of a new order, may not work out all that well for me either). Thoughts on what I should do?

As a side note, I really really hesitated on posting this because I am not trying to bash Marco at all. I still love him and his company and his work. He is a human making custom bags, and I get that mistakes happen - especially when dealing with customizations. I ultimately am posting though because I could really use some guidance. I have no idea how to move forward with this.

It is great that you understand that he is a human and does make mistakes. I love him dearly and support him as much as possible. I think you should stick with his making you the bag you want. I have the midi and I don't think there is any way all of that will fit in it. If you did take it, you would probably always be sorry you don't have the one you really want. In my opinion, he probably will be able to add that leather to his list of available leathers and it will sell. It is lovely.

 

[Cleda]

Thinking about the Hera Midi. How is the drop on that shoulder strap? I generally like to go with a minimum of 10 inches as I have fat arms

I think it should work for you if you get one in a soft leather, as the top of the bag will slouch downwards.
When it's straight across, about 9":


With the top slouched down, 11":

 

[Cleda]

I have one in orange Tuscania. I carry it with the flaps one on each side. Maybe it is designed so that you carry it with both flaps on one side when it is being used as a clutch?

I believe so, that means if I were to keep the strap as it is, I would have to colourblock the inner and outer leathers of the same flap, rather than colourblock across flaps. That way, I can show off the colourblocked effect when shoulder carrying, while also retaining the clean exterior look when it's used as a clutch.

 

[Cleda]

So I have a dilemma I need help with. Marco emailed me to say that they had accidentally produced my cobalt, Persian green, and dark blue laminato Sabrina as a midi, not a regular sized bag. Normally they'd just make another one in regular size, no problem, but they don't have enough Persian green for a regular size. He asked me if the Midi would work (obviously with a refund of the difference) or if they should go ahead and order more Persian green from the tannery.

I wrote back to say that I don't think the Midi will be big enough for my purposes, but I hate the thought of the extra work and cost to him to produce a regular size; would it be a huge issue and inconvienience to produce a regular size? He wrote back to and said that the actual production of the regular size isn't an issue at all but that the tannery would have to produce at least a set of 10 skins.

He also said the tannery has two skins of a stamped Persian green. He sent me a photo, which I included below. Unfortunately though, I don't like it nearly as much as the regular Persian green. I think the stamping would look too busy with the other two metallic colors, and the color itself looks far more grass green to me than the Persian Green.
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I don't love the stamped version of the leather. There is also no other leather I'd like to substitute in for the Persian green with the cobalt and dark blue, and there is no other combination of leathers from his current offerings I want for this bag. I also hate the idea of him needing to order 10 skins of the leather just for my one bag. If feels just wrong for me to ask him put in that cost and investment on my behalf. Also, based on the photo above, I'm slightly worried that if the tannery produces a new order, it won't be quite the same shade as the original Persian green. However, this is a bag I was SO excited for, particularly this exact color combo. I could take the Midi as a Midi was potentially on my list for sometime down the line, but I really really had my heart set on using this as a fun, flashy everyday bag, and I just don't think the Midi will be big enough for that. I would need it to fit a Chanel WOC, a pouch approx. the size of a Flora, two smaller pouches about 3.5"x5.5" each, LV round coin purse, a card holder about 4"x3"x1", sunglasses w/case, LV key class, iPhone 11 at a minimum - all the items on the left in the photo below. Ideally, it would also be able to fit one or more of the additional items I sometimes, but not always, carry on the right: a water bottle, a pair of leggings, checkbook, set of pens, and planner. I just don't think that will all fit in the Midi (but please, please, let me know if I am wrong!)
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So, it seems like I'm left with the option of taking the Midi or making Marco order all 10 skins for my one bag. Neither seem like a great option as the Midi doesn't work out the best for me and the way I wanted to use the bag, and a new order of skins doesn't work out all that well for Marco (and, given my concerns about the possible shade of a new order, may not work out all that well for me either). Thoughts on what I should do?

As a side note, I really really hesitated on posting this because I am not trying to bash Marco at all. I still love him and his company and his work. He is a human making custom bags, and I get that mistakes happen - especially when dealing with customizations. I ultimately am posting though because I could really use some guidance. I have no idea how to move forward with this.

I agree with the others, you should get what you ordered if you feel it suits you best. Otherwise, the bag will just not be 'love' and you'll always think of the bag that it should have been.

You can ask Marco for a photo of the new Persian green vs. the old one for a colour comparison.

The stamped Persian looks very interesting to me! I wonder what other fun leathers are in the tannery, that we have yet to see.

 

[orchidmyst]

I believe so, that means if I were to keep the strap as it is, I would have to colourblock the inner and outer leathers of the same flap, rather than colourblock across flaps. That way, I can show off the colourblocked effect when shoulder carrying, while also retaining the clean exterior look when it's used as a clutch.

Not sure if you've seen these pictures from the old blog
(http://fortheloveofmassaccesi.blogspot.com/2017/05/ciao-bella-sabrina-marco-massaccesi-has.html) but you can see the different ways the Sabrina can be carried.

If you want, you can have the two inner flaps to have different leathers so you can get more variations.

 

[Devyn Danielle]

So I have a dilemma I need help with. Marco emailed me to say that they had accidentally produced my cobalt, Persian green, and dark blue laminato Sabrina as a midi, not a regular sized bag. Normally they'd just make another one in regular size, no problem, but they don't have enough Persian green for a regular size. He asked me if the Midi would work (obviously with a refund of the difference) or if they should go ahead and order more Persian green from the tannery.

I wrote back to say that I don't think the Midi will be big enough for my purposes, but I hate the thought of the extra work and cost to him to produce a regular size; would it be a huge issue and inconvienience to produce a regular size? He wrote back to and said that the actual production of the regular size isn't an issue at all but that the tannery would have to produce at least a set of 10 skins.

He also said the tannery has two skins of a stamped Persian green. He sent me a photo, which I included below. Unfortunately though, I don't like it nearly as much as the regular Persian green. I think the stamping would look too busy with the other two metallic colors, and the color itself looks far more grass green to me than the Persian Green.
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I don't love the stamped version of the leather. There is also no other leather I'd like to substitute in for the Persian green with the cobalt and dark blue, and there is no other combination of leathers from his current offerings I want for this bag. I also hate the idea of him needing to order 10 skins of the leather just for my one bag. If feels just wrong for me to ask him put in that cost and investment on my behalf. Also, based on the photo above, I'm slightly worried that if the tannery produces a new order, it won't be quite the same shade as the original Persian green. However, this is a bag I was SO excited for, particularly this exact color combo. I could take the Midi as a Midi was potentially on my list for sometime down the line, but I really really had my heart set on using this as a fun, flashy everyday bag, and I just don't think the Midi will be big enough for that. I would need it to fit a Chanel WOC, a pouch approx. the size of a Flora, two smaller pouches about 3.5"x5.5" each, LV round coin purse, a card holder about 4"x3"x1", sunglasses w/case, LV key class, iPhone 11 at a minimum - all the items on the left in the photo below. Ideally, it would also be able to fit one or more of the additional items I sometimes, but not always, carry on the right: a water bottle, a pair of leggings, checkbook, set of pens, and planner. I just don't think that will all fit in the Midi (but please, please, let me know if I am wrong!)
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So, it seems like I'm left with the option of taking the Midi or making Marco order all 10 skins for my one bag. Neither seem like a great option as the Midi doesn't work out the best for me and the way I wanted to use the bag, and a new order of skins doesn't work out all that well for Marco (and, given my concerns about the possible shade of a new order, may not work out all that well for me either). Thoughts on what I should do?

As a side note, I really really hesitated on posting this because I am not trying to bash Marco at all. I still love him and his company and his work. He is a human making custom bags, and I get that mistakes happen - especially when dealing with customizations. I ultimately am posting though because I could really use some guidance. I have no idea how to move forward with this.

Just throwing this out there. The Sabrina style is a very flat bag. Maybe the midi could work for you as a fun, medium sized bag. I have a midi, and when I use it I carry the bare minimum ( small pack of hand wipes, small wallet, lipstick, hand cream and phone)because I don’t want it to bulge too much. I use it for date night with DH so it’s not an issue to have just a few small items in there. I dont have the full size so maybe someone has a picture to share filled with similar items. But if that kind of thing doesn’t bother you then it seems like your heart is pretty set on a full size, and that’s what I’d go with.

 

[Cleda]

Not sure if you've seen these pictures from the old blog
(http://fortheloveofmassaccesi.blogspot.com/2017/05/ciao-bella-sabrina-marco-massaccesi-has.html) but you can see the different ways the Sabrina can be carried.

If you want, you can have the two inner flaps to have different leathers so you can get more variations.

Yes thanks for sharing! I saw this while researching the Sabrina style recently. These pictures were what made me wonder if I should change the strap attachment.

Below are the 2 main ways I will prefer to carry it. On the left, I noticed that the straps are not attached right at the end. That made me wonder if the double flap look on the right will cause one flap to push up against the straps on the 2 ends. Seems like it will indeed happen unless I change the strap attachment location.

 

[Fancyfree]

So I have a dilemma I need help with. Marco emailed me to say that they had accidentally produced my cobalt, Persian green, and dark blue laminato Sabrina as a midi, not a regular sized bag. Normally they'd just make another one in regular size, no problem, but they don't have enough Persian green for a regular size. He asked me if the Midi would work (obviously with a refund of the difference) or if they should go ahead and order more Persian green from the tannery.

I wrote back to say that I don't think the Midi will be big enough for my purposes, but I hate the thought of the extra work and cost to him to produce a regular size; would it be a huge issue and inconvienience to produce a regular size? He wrote back to and said that the actual production of the regular size isn't an issue at all but that the tannery would have to produce at least a set of 10 skins.

He also said the tannery has two skins of a stamped Persian green. He sent me a photo, which I included below. Unfortunately though, I don't like it nearly as much as the regular Persian green. I think the stamping would look too busy with the other two metallic colors, and the color itself looks far more grass green to me than the Persian Green.
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I don't love the stamped version of the leather. There is also no other leather I'd like to substitute in for the Persian green with the cobalt and dark blue, and there is no other combination of leathers from his current offerings I want for this bag. I also hate the idea of him needing to order 10 skins of the leather just for my one bag. If feels just wrong for me to ask him put in that cost and investment on my behalf. Also, based on the photo above, I'm slightly worried that if the tannery produces a new order, it won't be quite the same shade as the original Persian green. However, this is a bag I was SO excited for, particularly this exact color combo. I could take the Midi as a Midi was potentially on my list for sometime down the line, but I really really had my heart set on using this as a fun, flashy everyday bag, and I just don't think the Midi will be big enough for that. I would need it to fit a Chanel WOC, a pouch approx. the size of a Flora, two smaller pouches about 3.5"x5.5" each, LV round coin purse, a card holder about 4"x3"x1", sunglasses w/case, LV key class, iPhone 11 at a minimum - all the items on the left in the photo below. Ideally, it would also be able to fit one or more of the additional items I sometimes, but not always, carry on the right: a water bottle, a pair of leggings, checkbook, set of pens, and planner. I just don't think that will all fit in the Midi (but please, please, let me know if I am wrong!)
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So, it seems like I'm left with the option of taking the Midi or making Marco order all 10 skins for my one bag. Neither seem like a great option as the Midi doesn't work out the best for me and the way I wanted to use the bag, and a new order of skins doesn't work out all that well for Marco (and, given my concerns about the possible shade of a new order, may not work out all that well for me either). Thoughts on what I should do?

As a side note, I really really hesitated on posting this because I am not trying to bash Marco at all. I still love him and his company and his work. He is a human making custom bags, and I get that mistakes happen - especially when dealing with customizations. I ultimately am posting though because I could really use some guidance. I have no idea how to move forward with this.

If I were in your shoes, I believe I would say yes to the Sabrina Midi.

Because:

• It is the exact leather you love.
• A Persion Green Midi will be "to die for" as an evening bag or party bag
• The regular Sabrina is not really any deeper than the Midi. 4 versus 3 cm... Yes, the regular is far larger, but it is still a flat bag. I'm concerned that filling even the regular Sabrina with bulky items wont flatter the bag's design?

 

[dramaprincess713]

If you feel more comfortable with your original order of the larger size, then stay with it.
I think with the mistake, Marco was just giving you different options to consider.
Get the bag that you want.

There used to be group bespoke for a certain leather where a minimum number of orders were needed to purchase the leather. I think we can think of this situation as a group bespoke for the Persian Green Metallic. This is an extremely beautiful color and would stand out in any style. I remember there was some interest in this leather. Would anyone want to order?

The Soulmate style has been popular lately with this leather but here is my Selene Midi in Persian Green Metallic.
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To show you different styles:
This is the Penelope in the Celeste Laminato Metallic.
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Little Athena in Cobalt Blue Laminato Metallic
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Marco did say that it would be helpful if they could avoid order the 10 skins from the tannery as it was a limited material they don't offer anymore. I think that was more of a response to my comments about not wanting him cause him extra work, cost, and inconvenience - I certainly don't think he's trying to guilt me into anything one way or another. But it does make me feel bad about possibly asking him to do so anyway in order to produce the bag in the size I actually want.

It is great that you understand that he is a human and does make mistakes. I love him dearly and support him as much as possible. I think you should stick with his making you the bag you want. I have the midi and I don't think there is any way all of that will fit in it. If you did take it, you would probably always be sorry you don't have the one you really want. In my opinion, he probably will be able to add that leather to his list of available leathers and it will sell. It is lovely.

Thanks for confirming my thoughts about the size of the midi. Thatt's what I worry - that I'll just regret that it's not the full size I want, especially now knowing the midi won't work for the way I want to use this bag.

Just throwing this out there. The Sabrina style is a very flat bag. Maybe the midi could work for you as a fun, medium sized bag. I have a midi, and when I use it I carry the bare minimum ( small pack of hand wipes, small wallet, lipstick, hand cream and phone)because I don’t want it to bulge too much. I use it for date night with DH so it’s not an issue to have just a few small items in there. I dont have the full size so maybe someone has a picture to share filled with similar items. But if that kind of thing doesn’t bother you then it seems like your heart is pretty set on a full size, and that’s what I’d go with.

I keep trying to think if I could just get the midi and use it as a medium-sized bag. The problem is that I'm really a big bag girl - small and medium sized bags get so little use from me, and I really wanted this to be an everyday bag so I just don't see the midi fulfilling the intention I had for it. I just really hate the idea of Marco incurring extra cost because of it. :-/

 

[dramaprincess713]

If I were in your shoes, I believe I would say yes to the Sabrina Midi.

Because:

• It is the exact leather you love.
• A Persion Green Midi will be "to die for" as an evening bag or party bag
• The regular Sabrina is not really any deeper than the Midi. 4 versus 3 cm... Yes, the regular is far larger, but it is still a flat bag. I'm concerned that filling even the regular Sabrina with bulky items wont flatter the bag's design?

I want to say yes to the Midi for the reasons you listed. But, I also don't because I know in my heart I really want the full-size. I've had two previous bags in a similar design (flat, fold-over bags) in a similar size to the regular Sabrina, and they fit at least my everyday items just fine, and I didn't feel it ruined the aesthetic of the flatter design. The water bottle is the only thing that might be called into question, but if the water bottle doesn't work, I can live with that. I just don't think the midi Sabrina will fit even my everyday items, not because of depth (which is a minimal difference), but because of the overall size. And while it's true that the midi would be an amazing party bag, but I have no need for an evening or party bag. I know I want the full-size. I just really hate the idea of Marco incurring the cost for a new order of skins (and, of course, and a bit worried a new order won't be the same shade of Persian Green).

 

[Fancyfree]

I want to say yes to the Midi for the reasons you listed. But, I also don't because I know in my heart I really want the full-size. I've had two previous bags in a similar design (flat, fold-over bags) in a similar size to the regular Sabrina, and they fit at least my everyday items just fine, and I didn't feel it ruined the aesthetic of the flatter design. The water bottle is the only thing that might be called into question, but if the water bottle doesn't work, I can live with that. I just don't think the midi Sabrina will fit even my everyday items, not because of depth (which is a minimal difference), but because of the overall size. And while it's true that the midi would be an amazing party bag, but I have no need for an evening or party bag. I know I want the full-size. I just really hate the idea of Marco incurring the cost for a new order of skins (and, of course, and a bit worried a new order won't be the same shade of Persian Green).

Another thought..
10 skins from the tannery... 10 full skins??? Isn't that leather for...40 - 50 bags!?
And Marco's business is struggling to survive.... Several Italian families rely on income from his company.

While we can afford to buy one lovely handbag after the other.

There will be more bags to fall in love with...

If 10 skins means leather for 10 bags, I would not worry.
If 10 skins means leather for 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 bags, I'd suggest reconsidering the importance of your Sabrina .

 

[samfalstaff]

Love this combo!

Thanks

 

[samfalstaff]

My white box has arrived!

First up is my first straw bag, and also first sample bag. I didn't even know what lining or hardware it was made of, I just grabbed it! I still don't know what lining it is... First thoughts: Midi Hera is a comfortable shoulder bag, and I love the handle attachment! Being used to leather bags, this straw bag feels incredibly lightweight. I didn't know why I was expecting it to be stiff or scratchy, but it is actually soft and drapey. I'm a little bit worried about getting dirt on it though, I have no idea how to clean a straw bag.

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Next up is Little Athena in Coral Red Africa RT. This is my first red bag! I'm still not sure what I can wear it with. Are matching shoes and bag still a rule? Leather smells amazing and I love the Africa texture on a structured bag with clean lines.
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I found a surprise MM Pendant in the pocket of my Midi Hera. I am checking with Marco if it is meant to be for me, or if it was left in there by accident. In any case, I was inspired by this post to try using it to bling up one of my Penelopes with the same hardware colour: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/massaccesi-handbags.878845/post-32604741

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Beautiful! What is the leather trim on the straw bag? Such a gorgeous brown color!