Mansur Gavriel MANSUR GAVRIEL Care & Maintenance Thread
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Okay I've read through the whole thread and there are so many good ideas!! I just want to clarify....if I use the blackrock do I then need to use a separate water protector like apple? Or does blackrock provide some protection? It's for a mini bucket cammello / rosa !
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some protection, not complete protection-I still got water spots in the light rain here yesterday.
Yes that's right- it's not a water repellent. It's more for giving the leather a good conditioning so that it's not so dry and helps to minimize surface scratches.
There are some leather conditioners which will provide water protection but I went with Blackrock because of how a few others told me it doesn't affect the color too much on the lighter bags.
I used a water and stain repellent spray after using the Blackrock
This thread is so useful!! I have some Apple care & condition at home, so I tried it on my black/flamma bucket bag and I noticed that there were some colour transfer on the cloth :/ anyone else had this problem too?
hope I can get my hands on the blackrock leather n rich, the results look great!
hope I can get my hands on the blackrock leather n rich, the results look great!
Don't worry! A little bit of color will come off - I used Blackrock and the same thing happened but it didn't affwct the bag or quality of the leather. It's just excess dye
Hi everyone, so I got some time off to myself this week and finally got down to working on protecting my Mansurs.
I used Chamberlain's Number 3 Leather Milk Water Protectant as I live in a super unpredictable climate (it was lovely and sunny all of last week and it is pouring down and miserable this week - bah!).
Contrary to the product's description of "milk", it is actually a cream, so was very easy to apply. Do wipe your bags clean first though. The sponge provided is a little too big for the trickier areas (straps, corners etc) so have a smaller piece of sponge handy - I used a brand new make up sponge.
Some observations:
1. There will be a lovely sheen after the protectant goes on. Apologies for the awful photo, hope you can see the difference: the tote has already been treated, bucket has not.
2. It was interesting to see that each and every bag's leather reacted rather differently to the application. The veining got more visible on my camello backpack and black flamma bucket but my tote remained the same.
My black flamma bucket which was bought in August 2014 absorbed the least and I had to wipe off the excess after 30 minutes when I didn't need to do so for the other two. I love how each bag has its own personality.
3. For owners of camello bags, make sure the cream is well soaked into the sponge before you apply. The leather will get a little darker but I rather that, than water droplets!
Camello backpack before application
Left strap with protectant, Right strap none:
After - a lovely honey brown
Verdict?
Overall, it didn't minimise the scratches one bit but I don't mind at all as it is part and parcel of the veg tanned leather. I didn't use the protectant on my flamma flamma calf bucket as I've travelled extensively with her last year and she held up so well when I got caught in a downpour that I didn't see the need.
I took a deep breath before flicking some water on the black tote first. Water droplets formed immediately. WOOHOO!
Next up was the camello - I even said a little prayer for good measure: again, water droplets form immediately. So happy that they are all now prepared for any kind of weather! Spring showers? No problem.
I also love that there isn't a smell at all which made the tedious task of treating all three bags a joy. Highly recommended for all you ladies who live in unpredictable climates.
And let's have a family photo whilst we are at it!
I used Chamberlain's Number 3 Leather Milk Water Protectant as I live in a super unpredictable climate (it was lovely and sunny all of last week and it is pouring down and miserable this week - bah!).
Contrary to the product's description of "milk", it is actually a cream, so was very easy to apply. Do wipe your bags clean first though. The sponge provided is a little too big for the trickier areas (straps, corners etc) so have a smaller piece of sponge handy - I used a brand new make up sponge.
Some observations:
1. There will be a lovely sheen after the protectant goes on. Apologies for the awful photo, hope you can see the difference: the tote has already been treated, bucket has not.
2. It was interesting to see that each and every bag's leather reacted rather differently to the application. The veining got more visible on my camello backpack and black flamma bucket but my tote remained the same.
My black flamma bucket which was bought in August 2014 absorbed the least and I had to wipe off the excess after 30 minutes when I didn't need to do so for the other two. I love how each bag has its own personality.
3. For owners of camello bags, make sure the cream is well soaked into the sponge before you apply. The leather will get a little darker but I rather that, than water droplets!
Camello backpack before application
Left strap with protectant, Right strap none:
After - a lovely honey brown
Verdict?
Overall, it didn't minimise the scratches one bit but I don't mind at all as it is part and parcel of the veg tanned leather. I didn't use the protectant on my flamma flamma calf bucket as I've travelled extensively with her last year and she held up so well when I got caught in a downpour that I didn't see the need.
I took a deep breath before flicking some water on the black tote first. Water droplets formed immediately. WOOHOO!
Next up was the camello - I even said a little prayer for good measure: again, water droplets form immediately. So happy that they are all now prepared for any kind of weather! Spring showers? No problem.
I also love that there isn't a smell at all which made the tedious task of treating all three bags a joy. Highly recommended for all you ladies who live in unpredictable climates.
And let's have a family photo whilst we are at it!
Hi everyone, so I got some time off to myself this week and finally got down to working on protecting my Mansurs.
I used Chamberlain's Number 3 Leather Milk Water Protectant as I live in a super unpredictable climate (it was lovely and sunny all of last week and it is pouring down and miserable this week - bah!).
Contrary to the product's description of "milk", it is actually a cream, so was very easy to apply. Do wipe your bags clean first though. The sponge provided is a little too big for the trickier areas (straps, corners etc) so have a smaller piece of sponge handy - I used a brand new make up sponge.
Some observations:
1. There will be a lovely sheen after the protectant goes on. Apologies for the awful photo, hope you can see the difference: the tote has already been treated, bucket has not.
2. It was interesting to see that each and every bag's leather reacted rather differently to the application. The veining got more visible on my camello backpack and black flamma bucket but my tote remained the same.
My black flamma bucket which was bought in August 2014 absorbed the least and I had to wipe off the excess after 30 minutes when I didn't need to do so for the other two. I love how each bag has its own personality.
3. For owners of camello bags, make sure the cream is well soaked into the sponge before you apply. The leather will get a little darker but I rather that, than water droplets!
Camello backpack before application
Left strap with protectant, Right strap none:
After - a lovely honey brown
Verdict?
Overall, it didn't minimise the scratches one bit but I don't mind at all as it is part and parcel of the veg tanned leather. I didn't use the protectant on my flamma flamma calf bucket as I've travelled extensively with her last year and she held up so well when I got caught in a downpour that I didn't see the need.
I took a deep breath before flicking some water on the black tote first. Water droplets formed immediately. WOOHOO!
Next up was the camello - I even said a little prayer for good measure: again, water droplets form immediately. So happy that they are all now prepared for any kind of weather! Spring showers? No problem.
I also love that there isn't a smell at all which made the tedious task of treating all three bags a joy. Highly recommended for all you ladies who live in unpredictable climates.
And let's have a family photo whilst we are at it!
Thanks for the awesome intel. What a beautiful family you have!
Hi everyone, so I got some time off to myself this week and finally got down to working on protecting my Mansurs.
I used Chamberlain's Number 3 Leather Milk Water Protectant as I live in a super unpredictable climate (it was lovely and sunny all of last week and it is pouring down and miserable this week - bah!).
Contrary to the product's description of "milk", it is actually a cream, so was very easy to apply. Do wipe your bags clean first though. The sponge provided is a little too big for the trickier areas (straps, corners etc) so have a smaller piece of sponge handy - I used a brand new make up sponge.
Some observations:
1. There will be a lovely sheen after the protectant goes on. Apologies for the awful photo, hope you can see the difference: the tote has already been treated, bucket has not.
2. It was interesting to see that each and every bag's leather reacted rather differently to the application. The veining got more visible on my camello backpack and black flamma bucket but my tote remained the same.
My black flamma bucket which was bought in August 2014 absorbed the least and I had to wipe off the excess after 30 minutes when I didn't need to do so for the other two. I love how each bag has its own personality.
3. For owners of camello bags, make sure the cream is well soaked into the sponge before you apply. The leather will get a little darker but I rather that, than water droplets!
Camello backpack before application
Left strap with protectant, Right strap none:
After - a lovely honey brown
Verdict?
Overall, it didn't minimise the scratches one bit but I don't mind at all as it is part and parcel of the veg tanned leather. I didn't use the protectant on my flamma flamma calf bucket as I've travelled extensively with her last year and she held up so well when I got caught in a downpour that I didn't see the need.
I took a deep breath before flicking some water on the black tote first. Water droplets formed immediately. WOOHOO!
Next up was the camello - I even said a little prayer for good measure: again, water droplets form immediately. So happy that they are all now prepared for any kind of weather! Spring showers? No problem.
I also love that there isn't a smell at all which made the tedious task of treating all three bags a joy. Highly recommended for all you ladies who live in unpredictable climates.
And let's have a family photo whilst we are at it!
They look great, might have to give this product a try!
Hi everyone, so I got some time off to myself this week and finally got down to working on protecting my Mansurs.
I used Chamberlain's Number 3 Leather Milk Water Protectant as I live in a super unpredictable climate (it was lovely and sunny all of last week and it is pouring down and miserable this week - bah!).
Contrary to the product's description of "milk", it is actually a cream, so was very easy to apply. Do wipe your bags clean first though. The sponge provided is a little too big for the trickier areas (straps, corners etc) so have a smaller piece of sponge handy - I used a brand new make up sponge.
Verdict?
Overall, it didn't minimise the scratches one bit but I don't mind at all as it is part and parcel of the veg tanned leather. I didn't use the protectant on my flamma flamma calf bucket as I've travelled extensively with her last year and she held up so well when I got caught in a downpour that I didn't see the need.
Thanks! I've been looking for a good cream water protectant. I love the leather milk conditioner too btw. I've got a flamma crossbody on order and was thinking I should protect it since it's not like it's supposed to patina. You don't think it's necessary though? My one concern with the chamberlains is that it says it can darken the leather, which I like on the veg tanned bags but don't think I would on the calf ones...
Thanks for this post! Really informative!Hi everyone, so I got some time off to myself this week and finally got down to working on protecting my Mansurs.
I used Chamberlain's Number 3 Leather Milk Water Protectant as I live in a super unpredictable climate (it was lovely and sunny all of last week and it is pouring down and miserable this week - bah!).
Contrary to the product's description of "milk", it is actually a cream, so was very easy to apply. Do wipe your bags clean first though. The sponge provided is a little too big for the trickier areas (straps, corners etc) so have a smaller piece of sponge handy - I used a brand new make up sponge.
Some observations:
1. There will be a lovely sheen after the protectant goes on. Apologies for the awful photo, hope you can see the difference: the tote has already been treated, bucket has not.
2. It was interesting to see that each and every bag's leather reacted rather differently to the application. The veining got more visible on my camello backpack and black flamma bucket but my tote remained the same.
My black flamma bucket which was bought in August 2014 absorbed the least and I had to wipe off the excess after 30 minutes when I didn't need to do so for the other two. I love how each bag has its own personality.
3. For owners of camello bags, make sure the cream is well soaked into the sponge before you apply. The leather will get a little darker but I rather that, than water droplets!
Camello backpack before application
Left strap with protectant, Right strap none:
After - a lovely honey brown
Verdict?
Overall, it didn't minimise the scratches one bit but I don't mind at all as it is part and parcel of the veg tanned leather. I didn't use the protectant on my flamma flamma calf bucket as I've travelled extensively with her last year and she held up so well when I got caught in a downpour that I didn't see the need.
I took a deep breath before flicking some water on the black tote first. Water droplets formed immediately. WOOHOO!
Next up was the camello - I even said a little prayer for good measure: again, water droplets form immediately. So happy that they are all now prepared for any kind of weather! Spring showers? No problem.
I also love that there isn't a smell at all which made the tedious task of treating all three bags a joy. Highly recommended for all you ladies who live in unpredictable climates.
And let's have a family photo whilst we are at it!
I just took a chance using a waterproofing spray my son had in the house, Penguin ultra dry protection on my Cammello/dolly bucket. While it did dull the sheen a little, it is now truly waterproofed. Not sure which I prefer though-the sheen from just using the blackrock or the protection provided by the waterproof spray. I personally think I will just stick with the conditioner, and try to stay out of the rain! I like the shinier finish better.
