Maintaining an H relationship

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Having the SA pick, is the nature of my retail relationship.My SAs also know that I’ll try anything on that they propose, and I’m open to their suggestion. If I didn’t respect their taste, i wouldn’t shop with them. I mainly buy RTW, mainly chanel, dior, Hermes, brunello. i hate looking at the look book, amd I prefer not to do reserves. I need to see something in person and fall in love, like @haute okole . Almost all of my RTW SAs have offered to curate my closet; have seen pics of what I have; and, have seen what I wear. They’ve also all seen my bags at one point or other. At any given time I have between 23-30 in my closet, (I do loan some out to my mom and friends), mainly neutral colors, majority BK, but I also love other styles. To me, a bag is an accompaniment to RTW, not the main attraction. They also know I love textiles, mixed media, and don’t generally do exotic. If I consider exotic, it’s matte and sometimes metallic. I’m not in a rush to have any bag.

This year, I was fortunate enough to start a relationship with an FSH SA (Mainly bc she likes talking to my DH lol). Ive seen her twice. Last month, she asked what RTW I had bought in NY so she wouldnt duplicate RTW selections. I showed her my toile leather jacket and leather skirt. I didn’t ask for any bag, but she offered a 28K quadrille and a navy cargo picotin pm bc she thought they would go really well with the jacket. In February, the first time I met her, she did ask for my bag preferences bc she had just met me. I requested a dark neutral 25K, maybe charcoal gray. She didn’t find one, but she did pick my 25K bleu orage based on what I was wearing that day. I almost refused it bc of ghw, but DH got my NY SA on the phone to change my mind. It’s not quite a typical neutral, but it works with a surprising amount of stuff. I should note that I had no prespend before my first offer, and still have very little, bc she didn’t have much in my size, and she and the FSH tailor advised me not to compromise on a favorite runway jacket that could not be altered.

When I started shopping with my main SA at Madison in 2021, I thought that I was on a hiatus from bags, but he thought I could use a lighter cool toned neutral so eventually offered a 30B etoupe ( at that point, my favorite size). He was also convinced that I should try a 25B ( a TPF friend of mine also suggested to him that 25B sellier would be great for me to try), so he offered a gold one to me when it came in, in 2022. By that time, i had continued to shop so I was at roughly 5X prespend, but I have honestly stopped counting. The one bag i specifically asked him for was a mini Della cavalleria as I happened to see a runway pic. But, when they came in, my SA absolutely didn’t want me to get the dark neutral black one that I wanted. He insisted that I would love the craie. And I am glad I followed his advice. Both Madison and FSH independently came up with the idea that a cargo 25B in a light or dark neutral (I dislike sesame) would be a perfect next bag for me if they can ever get one. I would prefer a regular toile B25, but that’s not their vision.

I also tend to shop with my DH, and between my SA and him, they usually have a better sense of my style than I do. DH walked into Madison and picked the toile jacket and the leather mini, and insisted I try it, before my SA and I even had a chance to look around Lol. Sometimes such a strong SA opinion can hinder shopping, for example, my SA won’t show me certain sweaters or shoes, but for the most part, they do really know what works with my style.

Apologies for the long post :smile:

ETA: for the Madison store opening appt, I didn’t ask for anything. I’m still not sure what my next bag, if any, will be.
I apologize for this out of topic intervention but... Are you saying there's some Bleu Orage around in 2022 ? One of the colors I'm the most attracted by for my next purchase.
 
@880 Completely 100% agree. My SA thanked me yesterday for never asking for bags when I visit and never having a wishlist. He said that is the reason why I actually get “offered the good bags.”
I don’t see how an SA would know what you like without a wish list especially if you are a new client. Yes, if you have been shopping with a particular SA for years then you likely don’t need a wishlist, but I don’t think it is a big deal to let the SA know what you are looking for.
 
I don’t see how an SA would know what you like without a wish list especially if you are a new client. Yes, if you have been shopping with a particular SA for years then you likely don’t need a wishlist, but I don’t think it is a big deal to let the SA know what you are looking for.
Agree, absolutely, everyone should do what is best for them :smile:
My current H relationships are actually relatively new. This is simply how I treat all SAs.
i do think that I have been offered great things that I would not have known to ask for, that’s all

ETA: I do not get the insanely fabulous H offers that @haute okole gets, but I also don’t have her
haute budget and lifestyle :P :drinks: My SAs know and respect my price point
 
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I don’t see how an SA would know what you like without a wish list especially if you are a new client. Yes, if you have been shopping with a particular SA for years then you likely don’t need a wishlist, but I don’t think it is a big deal to let the SA know what you are looking for.
All I can say is that my SA is appreciative of our relationship and I am also very grateful. Plus, we have a ridiculously fun time when I shop there. This is the last picture he took of me when he was trying to sell me a dog teepee, which I declined.

@880 Hahahahaha! What?!? Hahahaha! Ok, let’s sign up for that show Wife Swap. You are the rich Manhattanite and I am the LA hillbilly who lives in a doghouse.
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All I can say is that my SA is appreciative of our relationship and I am also very grateful. Plus, we have a ridiculously fun time when I shop there. This is the last picture he took of me when he was trying to sell me a dog teepee, which I declined.

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OMG! such a fabulous cute pic! why didn’t you get it?
Calling @DoggieBags for the adorable dog teepee

And. . . .your t shirt matches your lip color and your nails . . .love :drinks: :heart:
 
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On one hand, I do think it’s better to allow an SA time to learn one’s preferences before asking for a bag (this is why the typical set of items influencers are buying at H don’t lend well to getting a bag). On the other hand, these preferences extend to things beyond style choices. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the mentioned approach, but different people have different shopping styles. I personally prefer to let my SA know of items I like and while I consider suggestions, usually it’s something I’ve already seen and decided against for whatever reason. Because of this, my SA doesn’t really make suggestions.

This is why SA referrals rarely work and why there are different SAs. I’ve found an SA with whom I work well, but I’d probably drive @880 and @haute okole ’s SAs nuts.
 
I'm somewhere in between -- My SA puts my size and color preferences into my wishlist, that probably makes their life easier since they can always check my profile if they don't have them memorized. These days each SA has a long list of clients, I'm not a VIP so I don't expect my preferences to always be top of mind :shrugs:.
On the flip side, once I have my preferences in, I don't "remind" or prod my SA at all about my next bag, they just come when there is one available that suits my taste.
 
On one hand, I do think it’s better to allow an SA time to learn one’s preferences before asking for a bag (this is why the typical set of items influencers are buying at H don’t lend well to getting a bag). On the other hand, these preferences extend to things beyond style choices. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the mentioned approach, but different people have different shopping styles. I personally prefer to let my SA know of items I like and while I consider suggestions, usually it’s something I’ve already seen and decided against for whatever reason. Because of this, my SA doesn’t really make suggestions.

This is why SA referrals rarely work and why there are different SAs. I’ve found an SA with whom I work well, but I’d probably drive @880 and @haute okole ’s SAs nuts.
100% agree of communicating specific preferences of jewelry, RTW, shoes and handbags to SA. Shopping at Hermes is expensive and most people want to be clear of what they want. It's not like I'm using monopoly money or printing money.

Some who are able "curate" their entire closets with $3k-$10k pieces without batting an eye don't need a wishlist because at that tier level, the SA's know they have to come up with more unique and rare items. These types of clients roll differently and I am happy for them.
 
I have been told by more than one H person that SAs can be really frustrated with the sheer amount of QB demands, when, in point of fact, management determines which SAs are allowed to offer certain bags. (A bag SA probably gets the most leeway) Even if an SA would like to offer a particular bag to a client, management can and does sometimes overrule without any explanation to the SA. And, it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with prespend. So, it seems to me like SAs are being squeezed by both management and clients. I am fortunate to have a local SA and an FSH SA, and I know for certain that my FSH SA doesn’t care about prespend at all. They do care about having a regular base of repeat clients who are easy and pleasant to deal with. No one wants clients who are only fixated on the most popular QB of the moment.

ETA: a ‘nice’ SA will not give an unknown, first time client a QB of their dreams.
This . I do not have a wishlist either. Items come in, some will work, some do not. I never wanted a Constance until it my SA suggested it based on how I dress. I also never wanted or even noticed a jypserie, yet it’s my most used bag in my new favorite color (etoupe) . I think great SAs learn to know client preferences/styles.

I do not ask for QBs, I do not have a wishlist, I do not inquire about what I will be offered next. I have limited time when I go into H, as such, I do curate the appointment as to what I am in search for ahead of time (houseware, shoes, etc) My last visit she asked me what bag I want next. Honestly, I couldn’t say then or now. She thinks I should get a small Kelly, asked me about colors and even had me try on for size; but I love to load my bags with useless random items, so it doesn’t work for me. SAs know who is after only a QB. This is their business, the more desperate someone is, the more the client will be strung along to spend.

Much like my dear @880, I am well above 5x-8x prespend. I don’t keep track of it, i will only buy items I love and the right bags will come when then come.
 
This . I do not have a wishlist either. Items come in, some will work, some do not. I never wanted a Constance until it my SA suggested it based on how I dress. I also never wanted or even noticed a jypserie, yet it’s my most used bag in my new favorite color (etoupe) . I think great SAs learn to know client preferences/styles.

I do not ask for QBs, I do not have a wishlist, I do not inquire about what I will be offered next. I have limited time when I go into H, as such, I do curate the appointment as to what I am in search for ahead of time (houseware, shoes, etc) My last visit she asked me what bag I want next. Honestly, I couldn’t say then or now. She thinks I should get a small Kelly, asked me about colors and even had me try on for size; but I love to load my bags with useless random items, so it doesn’t work for me. SAs know who is after only a QB. This is their business, the more desperate someone is, the more the client will be strung along to spend.

Much like my dear @880, I am well above 5x-8x prespend. I don’t keep track of it, i will only buy items I love and the right bags will come when then come.
Thank you for your kind compliment, but I really hope mine is not 8X lol. Or if so, my DH and I will never know. One reason why I do love Hermes and cultivated a relationship there is decades ago, when DH and I had very little money, we walked into an Hermes in Highland Park? Dallas. At that time, we were visiting his boss. At dinner that evening, the other guests were so wealthy, our income would not have brought down the average. At Hermes, it was completely obvious that we were only looking and not in any position to purchase anything, and we basically told the SM this. And, they very graciously showed us a beautiful shiny croc kelly without any expectations.

I have loved Hermes since 1985, when I bought my boyfriend, now DH, his first tie. I’ve also felt the same way about chanel 57, where I used to take my moms bags for repair. It was only much later that I was able to slowly buy a piece of RTW or a scarf. So, part of the reason why I developed these relationships now that I can afford more, are the good memories. But, I will say that when my first H SA left around 2012, I stopped shopping the boutique. And, typically when my SAs leave, I do try to follow them to their new boutiques. So, to me, their ability to help me find what best suits me is more important than the brand they work for.
 
100% agree of communicating specific preferences of jewelry, RTW, shoes and handbags to SA. Shopping at Hermes is expensive and most people want to be clear of what they want. It's not like I'm using monopoly money or printing money.

Some who are able "curate" their entire closets with $3k-$10k pieces without batting an eye don't need a wishlist because at that tier level, the SA's know they have to come up with more unique and rare items. These types of clients roll differently and I am happy for them.
Agreed. I will always have a wishlist. I mean I spend countless of hours/days/weeks/months/years on tpf to know what I want so I will communicate that. Maybe this would have been different had I started shopping with H years ago but I didn’t so it’s not.

I don’t think there’s a right or a wrong way to shop. I’m open to recommendations but I also know what I like and will communicate it from the beginning. If me communicating means no or less qb offers- so be it; I will not lose sleep.

When I read “I don’t have a wishlist” I don’t take that to mean people *shouldnt* have a wishlist. All relationships in any aspect of life are different even with the same people and it’s important to know what *your* relationship requires.
 
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as you can see from my posts, I talk a lot :smile:
the important thing is, if something isn’t you, you can always say no. There will always be another dress, coat, bag etc
happy shopping :smile:
Same here!:) I think the words of wisdom we can share with the next generation of H shoppers are:
1) it’s ok to say no - there will always be more offers!
2) if you’re only there to get a bag it’s probably not going to be a good time for you or for the SA
3) if you’re there to buy and love all of the things (including bags) it’s ok to talk about what you love and what you do not love
 
Thank you for your kind compliment, but I really hope mine is not 8X lol. Or if so, my DH and I will never know. One reason why I do love Hermes and cultivated a relationship there is decades ago, when DH and I had very little money, we walked into an Hermes in Highland Park? Dallas. At that time, we were visiting his boss. At dinner that evening, the other guests were so wealthy, our income would not have brought down the average. At Hermes, it was completely obvious that we were only looking and not in any position to purchase anything, and we basically told the SM this. And, they very graciously showed us a beautiful shiny croc kelly without any expectations.

I have loved Hermes since 1985, when I bought my boyfriend, now DH, his first tie. I’ve also felt the same way about chanel 57, where I used to take my moms bags for repair. It was only much later that I was able to slowly buy a piece of RTW or a scarf. So, part of the reason why I developed these relationships now that I can afford more, are the good memories. But, I will say that when my first H SA left around 2012, I stopped shopping the boutique. And, typically when my SAs leave, I do try to follow them to their new boutiques. So, to me, their ability to help me find what best suits me is more important than the brand they work for.
Thanks for sharing your story:smile:
 
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This . I do not have a wishlist either. Items come in, some will work, some do not. I never wanted a Constance until it my SA suggested it based on how I dress. I also never wanted or even noticed a jypserie, yet it’s my most used bag in my new favorite color (etoupe) . I think great SAs learn to know client preferences/styles.
True. My new Hermes SA seems to guess correctly what I will like based on how I dress and from our conversations. So does my Dior SA - she is on the spot most of the time.
 
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