Maintaining an H relationship

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I wouldn't let a SA response surrounding rodeo availability determine whether or not you are working with the right SA. I have had several quota bag offers, 2 push offers this year alone, etc. and I have only been offered 2 rodeos in my time shopping with my SA despite a lot of persistence and reminders. I love my SA but I absolutely believe them when the availability re: rodeos can often be pretty elusive, particularly in the coveted PM size. Depending on your other interactions w/ your SA, I would appreciate the candidness quite personally.

Yeah I’m not just making the decision to switch simply because of not getting the item that I desired. I added it as a small example of how I got shut down quickly by this SA. I personally felt not valued as a client, especially when this SA chose to turn their back on me while we were in the middle of a conversation, to take a walk in client, instead of completing my appointment with them. This is the second time it’s happened. I don’t think this is typical Hermes SA behavior but please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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Yeah I’m not just making the decision to switch simply because of not getting the item that I desired. I added it as a small example of how I got shut down quickly by this SA. I personally felt not valued as a client, especially when this SA chose to turn their back on me while we were in the middle of a conversation, to take a walk in client, instead of completing my appointment with them. This is the second time it’s happened. I don’t think this is typical Hermes SA behavior but please correct me if I’m wrong.
Erm your SA sounds amazingly rude. I am shocked.
 
Hoping for some guidance. I’ve been with my home store for about 5 years. My SA is super sweet and lovely and I thought we had developed a great relationship. I bought several HG bags initially over the first 2-3 years and was offered a SO. I was pretty content with my bag collection, so my last HG purchase was my SO in late 2019. I have continued to shop scarves, shoes, ties, some home goods through the pandemic and 2021 and my SA even told me I could do another SO this fall.

I’ve been on the hunt for a tiny bag like a mini bolide or mini Kelly and feel like she’s been somewhat dismissive and short when I come into shop. I’ve come into buy non-bag items twice over the last month and made appointments with her — however she always seems to have another client scheduled at the same time. I feel rushed and like she’s annoyed with me. She’s been very vague about bags and I feel like I have to really push her. Has anyone else experienced this ?

Maybe she can’t offer you much if you are going to get the SO? Not sure how competitive your store is but things have definitely been getting more competitive in some places, on top of a lack of stock. If she is promising you an SO this fall then she’s definitely not forgetting you, so perhaps the SO slot is the best she can get you and she can’t convince the manager / have no stock / have too many other clients also needing something this year etc. to also offer you a MKII on top of it? Purely wild guess on my part though, maybe you can try to find a subtle way to ask if that’s the case?
 
Hello,
Long time lurker here. Just wanted to share my experience maybe it would help ease someones anxiety about their SA relationship. I only started my H journey last year. I had not purchased anything from Hermes for over 3 years. Maybe a bracelet once but i cant really remember. I happened to message my SA after 3 years of receiving their contact details. I messaged her how she was doing and then 2 sentences later i inquired about a B25 over text. She said she would keep an eye out for me and she didnt have anything in stock (Fair Enough). I expected that response. But 6 days later she texted me asking if i would be interested in a B30. I declined. 2 months later she asked me if i wanted a constance. I declined. Moral of the story is if you are patient and can maintain a healthy fun & light relationship with your SA the offers will come. I am still waiting on my B25. I have only bought a pair of oran sandals in the last year. I hope this helps :)
 
Yeah I’m not just making the decision to switch simply because of not getting the item that I desired. I added it as a small example of how I got shut down quickly by this SA. I personally felt not valued as a client, especially when this SA chose to turn their back on me while we were in the middle of a conversation, to take a walk in client, instead of completing my appointment with them. This is the second time it’s happened. I don’t think this is typical Hermes SA behavior but please correct me if I’m wrong.
Wow, I agree. That is super rude of your SA and NOT typical or accepted behavior. I’m glad you are switching.
 
If your mom will have something very expensive (H or not) delivered, it would be best for her to be certain that she will be in that place at that specific time to avoid issues like this moving forward. I always choose to pick-up if I am not sure that I can receive the package. Anyways, the SD could have been nicer. But she doesn't need to (and she obviously knows that) because a lot of customers probably let her get away with it. Remember, you teach people how to treat you--by what you allow, stop, and reinforce. If she is afraid that the SD won't anymore offer her H goodies if she became feisty and arrogant with her, then she is an adult who made that choice and she has to live with it.


Alright, this is hopefully not a big deal, but I wanted to get some opinions. It’s kind of a long story because there’s a lot of context.

TL;DR: my mom’s SA was going to ship her a fine jewelry bracelet from the store. Mom couldn’t contact him to tell him she was at her other home, so she calls the store and tells the store director that the delivery address needed to change. SD freaks out and chews my mom out… before changing tune and agreeing to ship it.


My mom’s “local” boutique is about a three-hour drive from her second home, and she stops in every 3-6 months when her schedule permits, and she also orders things from her SA between visits. Anyway, my mom’s SA texted her last week saying that his store was about to get a rose gold CDC bracelet with diamonds on the pyramids and asked if she would be interested. She said yes, and he said he would text her again when it arrives. The plan was that the store would ship it to her, which is what they did when she got her Kelly bracelet a couple of months ago (they had to transfer the correct size from a different store). The CDC arrived in store Saturday, and he sent her a payment link late Sunday afternoon. My mom missed that text because she was out for an early dinner with my dad, so her SA texted her again around Hermès closing time saying he would resend the payment link on Tuesday.

Come Tuesday, my mom receives another payment link via email, and she pays for it successfully. She texts her SA for confirmation and to tell him that she is currently at her primary home, not the one closest to Hermès, and that she would need it shipped there, instead (note: she has not ordered anything to that address before). No response. 30 minutes later, she receives a confirmation email from FedEx stating that the package would be overnighted to the wrong address. Panicked, she texts SA again. No response. So she calls the store and finds out he’s not working that day, hence the silence (also, totally understandable, but in this case, she needed help ASAP). She is put through to the store director, and this is when all hell breaks loose.

SD is extremely huffy on the phone. Mom explains that she is at her primary home and nobody is at the original address to receive it. At first SD insists that it go to the original address, and that if my mom wants the bracelet and cannot be there to receive it, she will have to come into the store to get it. Mom explains that she will not be in that area again until September. SD is irritated but agrees to ship to the new address. More context: the new address is a townhouse in a row of six (a very small development), and each townhouse shares the same street address but has a individual unit number (they are technically zoned as condos, but they look like townhouses with individual exterior front doors and driveways). SD flips her ish when my mom says “123 Random Street, unit number 6.” SD shouts “We do not ship to apartments! The bracelet is too expensive! Too much of a security risk!” Mom was really taken aback but kindly explained that it’s a condo, not an apartment, and that each unit has its own driveway and front door. Still, SD insists that FedEx will not deliver it there, which is not true. SD said that she still wanted to cancel it “but, oh, it’s already been paid for” (in a super disappointed voice). My mom then told her she had already contacted her SA to tell him that she was at her other residence and that she did not know that he was not in that day. Then, SD’s tone softened, and she became much more polite and friendly, and then she agreed to the address change.

Mom was really taken aback by the exchange. She described the SD’s tone as “quite mean” and said that she felt “talked down to,” especially for living in an “apartment” (which she doesn’t lol). I didn’t hear the conversation, but I believe my mom completely because she is a pretty darn intimidating woman in her own right, and she rarely feels belittled by others. But now my mom is so afraid of this woman that she’s going to drop everything from her work (even ending or canceling meetings, if need be) whenever the bracelet arrives so she can sign for it, open the box, and confirm with the SD, who will follow up with a phone call whenever FedEx sends a delivery notification. My mom never gets distracted when WFH, so this is pretty unprecedented. She literally told me “I have to open it immediately, no matter what, because I can’t imagine how upset and mean she’ll get if I can’t confirm that I received it when she calls. I can’t do another tongue-lashing! Not this soon!”

Soooooo, is it just me, or is this crazy? Did my mom do anything wrong here? Does she need to tread lightly around the SD the next time she goes to the store? Or can anyone explain the SD’s perspective here?
 
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Hoping for some guidance. I’ve been with my home store for about 5 years. My SA is super sweet and lovely and I thought we had developed a great relationship. I bought several HG bags initially over the first 2-3 years and was offered a SO. I was pretty content with my bag collection, so my last HG purchase was my SO in late 2019. I have continued to shop scarves, shoes, ties, some home goods through the pandemic and 2021 and my SA even told me I could do another SO this fall.

I’ve been on the hunt for a tiny bag like a mini bolide or mini Kelly and feel like she’s been somewhat dismissive and short when I come into shop. I’ve come into buy non-bag items twice over the last month and made appointments with her — however she always seems to have another client scheduled at the same time. I feel rushed and like she’s annoyed with me. She’s been very vague about bags and I feel like I have to really push her. Has anyone else experienced this ?

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I am experiencing something similar with my SA. I’ve not been offered any bags this year ( I’m aware covid has limited stock). But the last few times I’ve gone to the store to pick up an item she has been serving someone else. And she served another client who walked in after me looking for her. Although she did ask her colleague to look after me instead….Maybe she’s just high in demand or there really isn’t enough stock to go around. But I do feel like I’ve dropped down on her priority list. Im pretty sure I’m a “low spender” compared to her other clients. I’m very keen to get my next birkin but I don’t really want to up my purchases for the sake of it in hope to get another offer. Should I just take a step back? Give up on an offer this year? Thoughts welcome! Xx
 
Things change. If she has other clients that are high spenders (compared to you) and you aren't one of her "favorites", you will have a hard time getting the "bag of your dreams"..if you get an offer at all. The feeling should be mutual. Sometimes you think you are cool with a person but make sure it is not one-sided. You are right to trust your gut.
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I am experiencing something similar with my SA. I’ve not been offered any bags this year ( I’m aware covid has limited stock). But the last few times I’ve gone to the store to pick up an item she has been serving someone else. And she served another client who walked in after me looking for her. Although she did ask her colleague to look after me instead….Maybe she’s just high in demand or there really isn’t enough stock to go around. But I do feel like I’ve dropped down on her priority list. Im pretty sure I’m a “low spender” compared to her other clients. I’m very keen to get my next birkin but I don’t really want to up my purchases for the sake of it in hope to get another offer. Should I just take a step back? Give up on an offer this year? Thoughts welcome! Xx
 
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From all my experience, these titles don’t matter whatsoever from the client’s POV. They all should have equal say in item distribution and the quota bag distribution still goes through the store manager regardless. “Higher tier” SAs will have more long term clients so even if it is easier for them to pull an item, it would likely go to a higher tier client of theirs anyway. The titles may have some meaning internally as far as extra responsibilities around the store but I’ve never seen it matter in a material way to the customer.

Just speaking from experience, but the tiers matter in one main regard; commissions.

Our SA that left H was a “sales supervisor” and she received commissions off of an item she sold us, but was also tied to the boutique’s quota. That meant if there was a quota bag in the boutique on the last day of a quarter, I’d receive an urgent call asking if the wife would want X or Y but that I’d have to come pick it up by end of day. Early on in working with her, I asked about her pay structure and she explained that other SAs don’t get much of anything from selling a B or K, but that she did because of the other quota of the boutique number.
 
I need your opinion here. I usually create a wish list of things I want in a photo album. I would have pictures of the items along with the reference number that I grab from the website.

A lot of these items are available for purchase immediately on the website. I was told by my SA from the beginning that it’s super easy to grab/request items from the website. I would text my SA about those items and they said they would try to transfer them in for me. Weeks went by and nothing. Then I can’t order them from the website anymore because those items are sold out online. If SA couldn’t request them in, at least let me know so I could order them online.

This has happened many times now. Waiting for the SA never worked for me and we all know when an item is sold out, it’s gone for good.

A few weeks ago, I was in NYC and I saw some of those items I wanted on display. Of course I bought them immediately. The SA at Madison also ordered a ash tray for me (the same item that I have been waiting for months for my home SA to order). The tray arrived this week. That wasn’t difficult but I waited for months for my own SA. I also saw some other home items at the Madison store ($15,000). I didn’t buy them, because I want to order them through my own SA. I texted my SA pictures of those items. Again, nothing. They acknowledged it and said they would request a transfer. A week or more went by, no update, nothing. I don’t understand. I ended up buying those items when I was in Paris because I didn’t want to miss out on them.

At this point, why should I even bother maintaining this relationship? I should just buy whatever I want when I see them instead of reaching out for “help” and not getting anything. I am not even after quota bags at this point. I feel like they don’t want my business anymore. It’s odd because we had such a nice relationship for almost 2 years. I even got a quota bag a year ago but within the last few months, things have changed and I am a little sad about it. I don’t know how to bring this up with the SA as I don’t want to criticize them for not able to order anything for me. I don’t buy just a twilly. I just bought $20,000 worth of goods from other SA because my own SA didn’t want to help me?

Sure, you may tell me that I need to be patient and wait. I did that for months and missed out on items because my own SA didn’t do anything. Would love to hear you guys’ opinions on this.
 

At this point, why should I even bother maintaining this relationship? I should just buy whatever I want when I see them instead of reaching out for “help” and not getting anything. I am not even after quota bags at this point. I feel like they don’t want my business anymore. It’s odd because we had such a nice relationship for almost 2 years. I even got a quota bag a year ago but within the last few months, things have changed and I am a little sad about it. I don’t know how to bring this up with the SA as I don’t want to criticize them for not able to order anything for me. I don’t buy just a twilly. I just bought $20,000 worth of goods from other SA because my own SA didn’t want to help me?

Sure, you may tell me that I need to be patient and wait. I did that for months and missed out on items because my own SA didn’t do anything. Would love to hear you guys’ opinions on this.

I am a bit puzzled by this: why go through your SA and miss things you really want if at the end the relationship is not for a quota bag? If I were you, as I do not want a quota bag, I would order and buy from wherever I find the item. I think the patience and waiting often mentioned here is for those whose end-game is quota bag.

My SA encourages me to find things wherever I find them (other boutiques, online, etc) as long as I get the items I want.

ET: to answer your question, no, no need to maintain the relationship anymore, IMO
 
I need your opinion here. I usually create a wish list of things I want in a photo album. I would have pictures of the items along with the reference number that I grab from the website.

A lot of these items are available for purchase immediately on the website. I was told by my SA from the beginning that it’s super easy to grab/request items from the website. I would text my SA about those items and they said they would try to transfer them in for me. Weeks went by and nothing. Then I can’t order them from the website anymore because those items are sold out online. If SA couldn’t request them in, at least let me know so I could order them online.

This has happened many times now. Waiting for the SA never worked for me and we all know when an item is sold out, it’s gone for good.

A few weeks ago, I was in NYC and I saw some of those items I wanted on display. Of course I bought them immediately. The SA at Madison also ordered a ash tray for me (the same item that I have been waiting for months for my home SA to order). The tray arrived this week. That wasn’t difficult but I waited for months for my own SA. I also saw some other home items at the Madison store ($15,000). I didn’t buy them, because I want to order them through my own SA. I texted my SA pictures of those items. Again, nothing. They acknowledged it and said they would request a transfer. A week or more went by, no update, nothing. I don’t understand. I ended up buying those items when I was in Paris because I didn’t want to miss out on them.

At this point, why should I even bother maintaining this relationship? I should just buy whatever I want when I see them instead of reaching out for “help” and not getting anything. I am not even after quota bags at this point. I feel like they don’t want my business anymore. It’s odd because we had such a nice relationship for almost 2 years. I even got a quota bag a year ago but within the last few months, things have changed and I am a little sad about it. I don’t know how to bring this up with the SA as I don’t want to criticize them for not able to order anything for me. I don’t buy just a twilly. I just bought $20,000 worth of goods from other SA because my own SA didn’t want to help me?

Sure, you may tell me that I need to be patient and wait. I did that for months and missed out on items because my own SA didn’t do anything. Would love to hear you guys’ opinions on this.
In my opinion, there are only two reasons to maintain a relationship with an H SA, 1) to be offered quota bags and 2) to have good service in accessing other items you want to buy. If you don’t care about 1 and aren’t receiving 2 then indeed there is no reason to bother with loyalty to that SA and you should just shop however is best to successfully receive the items you see and want.

ETA, now that you’ve successfully gotten those items elsewhere, in a really unfair twist, your original SA is going to be even more unlikely to go out of her way to get items in the future. I’d consider that relationship over, if I were you. :sad:
 
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I need your opinion here. I usually create a wish list of things I want in a photo album. I would have pictures of the items along with the reference number that I grab from the website.

A lot of these items are available for purchase immediately on the website. I was told by my SA from the beginning that it’s super easy to grab/request items from the website. I would text my SA about those items and they said they would try to transfer them in for me. Weeks went by and nothing. Then I can’t order them from the website anymore because those items are sold out online. If SA couldn’t request them in, at least let me know so I could order them online.

This has happened many times now. Waiting for the SA never worked for me and we all know when an item is sold out, it’s gone for good.

A few weeks ago, I was in NYC and I saw some of those items I wanted on display. Of course I bought them immediately. The SA at Madison also ordered a ash tray for me (the same item that I have been waiting for months for my home SA to order). The tray arrived this week. That wasn’t difficult but I waited for months for my own SA. I also saw some other home items at the Madison store ($15,000). I didn’t buy them, because I want to order them through my own SA. I texted my SA pictures of those items. Again, nothing. They acknowledged it and said they would request a transfer. A week or more went by, no update, nothing. I don’t understand. I ended up buying those items when I was in Paris because I didn’t want to miss out on them.

At this point, why should I even bother maintaining this relationship? I should just buy whatever I want when I see them instead of reaching out for “help” and not getting anything. I am not even after quota bags at this point. I feel like they don’t want my business anymore. It’s odd because we had such a nice relationship for almost 2 years. I even got a quota bag a year ago but within the last few months, things have changed and I am a little sad about it. I don’t know how to bring this up with the SA as I don’t want to criticize them for not able to order anything for me. I don’t buy just a twilly. I just bought $20,000 worth of goods from other SA because my own SA didn’t want to help me?

Sure, you may tell me that I need to be patient and wait. I did that for months and missed out on items because my own SA didn’t do anything. Would love to hear you guys’ opinions on this.
You can also go in the store when you see the items online and have your SA order them through the website so they still get “credit.” It’s inconvenient to have to go in sometimes and you do risk missing out on the item if it sells quickly …
 
In my opinion, there are only two reasons to maintain a relationship with an H SA, 1) to be offered quota bags and 2) to have good service in accessing other items you want to buy. If you don’t care about 1 and aren’t receiving 2 then indeed there is no reason to bother with loyalty to that SA and you should just shop however is best to successfully receive the items you see and want.

ETA, now that you’ve successfully gotten those items elsewhere, in a really unfair twist, your original SA is going to be even more unlikely to go out of her way to get items in the future. I’d consider that relationship over, if I were you. :sad:
I don’t see how her SA could blame her for buying it elsewhere if she asked and no reply. Just sounds like the SA either doesn’t value the relationship or is overwhelmed at work.
 
In my opinion, there are only two reasons to maintain a relationship with an H SA, 1) to be offered quota bags and 2) to have good service in accessing other items you want to buy. If you don’t care about 1 and aren’t receiving 2 then indeed there is no reason to bother with loyalty to that SA and you should just shop however is best to successfully receive the items you see and want.

ETA, now that you’ve successfully gotten those items elsewhere, in a really unfair twist, your original SA is going to be even more unlikely to go out of her way to get items in the future. I’d consider that relationship over, if I were you. :sad:

I always value your input. I absolutely agree with you that the relationship seem to be done. The ONLY reason I stick to this SA and tried to maintain a relationship because I valued what the SA has done for me within the last couple years. I bought regularly and I bought everything I wanted. I got offered a Kelly, and it was wonderful. I just really want that good service and I think I have given the SA many chances to request items that I want. I understand if the items are sold out but they weren’t. They were available online for weeks and they were available in other boutiques. I didn’t buy them. I waited for my SA and ended up getting nothing. It’s all good. Just disappointed.
 
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