Maintaining an H relationship

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Thanks! I actually go over my wishlist with her each time I visit and usually say something like excited to get one of these soon!! I have spoken up, but maybe I need to be more direct. I’m thinking I’ll visit next week and say “I’d like to add a bag from my wishlist off my collection for the holidays” and see what she says or does.
Don't let them beat around the bushes. If you spend the amount of two Kelly's, you should get at least one regular leather Kelly's (of a spec that people might murder each other over).

The other thing is the exactness of the wish. It doesn't look like you will stop at one bag. Give the SA a few to work with. At the end of the day, it is a lot easier to fulfill neutral colors and black of the regular leathers than specific shades. Once you are offered the first one, the rest comes naturally.

The other trick is the DH or significant other trick. Bring him or her in to talk about the Christmas gift from your wishlist. It works better than you doing it alone.

When I first work with my home store SA, she was a lot more comfortable if she knew I have DH's "approval". Ha ha. Later on, she knew that I was fueling my own addiction and needed no approval.

Here is what happened in London. I wanted to buy the bracelet anyways. But they had nothing available that day. My brand new SA assured me that the store will take care of me.
 
Don't let them beat around the bushes. If you spend the amount of two Kelly's, you should get at least one regular leather Kelly's (of a spec that people might murder each other over).

The other thing is the exactness of the wish. It doesn't look like you will stop at one bag. Give the SA a few to work with. At the end of the day, it is a lot easier to fulfill neutral colors and black of the regular leathers than specific shades. Once you are offered the first one, the rest comes naturally.

The other trick is the DH or significant other trick. Bring him or her in to talk about the Christmas gift from your wishlist. It works better than you doing it alone.

When I first work with my home store SA, she was a lot more comfortable if she knew I have DH's "approval". Ha ha. Later on, she knew that I was fueling my own addiction and needed no approval.

Here is what happened in London. I wanted to buy the bracelet anyways. But they had nothing available that day. My brand new SA assured me that the store will take care of me.
I will try these things and report back. Thanks!
 
You can also hint about going to London. It is a lot cheaper. That should light a fire there.
Hahaha I went to Paris last month and that did nothing She wished me well. I came back and bought a sneaker and a few other things I couldn’t track down there. I surely thought she would have something for me. Nope. Maybe I just need a new SA
 
Hahaha I went to Paris last month and that did nothing She wished me well. I came back and bought a sneaker and a few other things I couldn’t track down there. I surely thought she would have something for me. Nope. Maybe I just need a new SA
If you are going to London and still want your Kelly bracelet, you know where to find a great SA.
 
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Don't let them beat around the bushes. If you spend the amount of two Kelly's, you should get at least one regular leather Kelly's (of a spec that people might murder each other over).

The other thing is the exactness of the wish. It doesn't look like you will stop at one bag. Give the SA a few to work with. At the end of the day, it is a lot easier to fulfill neutral colors and black of the regular leathers than specific shades. Once you are offered the first one, the rest comes naturally.

The other trick is the DH or significant other trick. Bring him or her in to talk about the Christmas gift from your wishlist. It works better than you doing it alone.

When I first work with my home store SA, she was a lot more comfortable if she knew I have DH's "approval". Ha ha. Later on, she knew that I was fueling my own addiction and needed no approval.

Here is what happened in London. I wanted to buy the bracelet anyways. But they had nothing available that day. My brand new SA assured me that the store will take care of me.

So in this kind of situation how do you ask/make it clear? Do you tell the SA your jewelry purchase is conditional on them offering you a bag?

Have you had a situation where you buy the big items and then there’s no bag?

I ask because that would be just my luck.
 
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Hahaha I went to Paris last month and that did nothing She wished me well. I came back and bought a sneaker and a few other things I couldn’t track down there. I surely thought she would have something for me. Nope. Maybe I just need a new SA
I’m feeling like yours is a dud. :-(
I am beginning to feel the same about mine.
 
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So in this kind of situation how do you ask/make it clear? Do you tell the SA your jewelry purchase is conditional on them offering you a bag?

Have you had a situation where you buy the big items and then there’s no bag?

I ask because that would be just my luck.

I like your question. Maybe this is my problem too.

I’m feeling like yours is a dud. :sad:
I am beginning to feel the same about mine.

Do we need a support group? I’d be willing to fly to find a new one. I truly love H goods and buy in all departments. I now have homeware, RTW, shoes, non quota bags, slg, rodeo, silks etc. the only thing I don’t have is jewelry and that’s only because I have been waiting for the bracelet in my size for over two weeks now
 
So in this kind of situation how do you ask/make it clear? Do you tell the SA your jewelry purchase is conditional on them offering you a bag?

Have you had a situation where you buy the big items and then there’s no bag?

I ask because that would be just my luck.
I have always been rewarded with bags even when I was not expecting it. I always come prepared with my wishlist (down to reference numbers) and not waste their time.

It was not that hard for me to break the ice as I already walked in with an old Birkin and wearing a few other H items in casual way. And I really need another bag to hold me over when my bag is at the spa (at least for the next week before I go home to be reunited with my other bags). And even if the SA never comes up with the bag, I still love that bracelet. He would have lost a customer.

I have heard others have made the purchase contingent on a bag. But I did not have to go there. I trust my instinct that he is an honest and good SA.
 
And even if the SA never comes up with the bag, I still love that bracelet. He would have lost a customer.
It is a gorgeous bracelet, that is true!

I now have homeware, RTW, shoes, non quota bags, slg, rodeo, silks etc.
Me too! They’re all items I love, but I’m reaching the point where if a bag does not materialize in the next few months, I have to look at alternate options.

My store had/has a ‘reputation’ and I usually shopped H when on vacation, as I rarely had time to play the game or develop a relationship. I met my SA this summer, and she indicated that if I had built my profile at the store I’d have gotten my bag already. So I started shopping with her.

I trust my instinct that he is an honest and good SA.
Yeah, I trust my instinct too which is why I’m concerned about my situation. I’ve unfortunately heard too many stories of SA games. And I know I’m useless at anything beyond quid pro quo.
 
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It is a gorgeous bracelet, that is true!


Me too! They’re all items I love, but I’m reaching the point where if a bag does not materialize in the next few months, I have to look at alternate options.

My store had/has a ‘reputation’ and I usually shopped H when on vacation, as I rarely had time to play the game or develop a relationship. I met my SA this summer, and she indicated that if I had built my profile at the store I’d have gotten my bag already. So I started shopping with her.


Yeah, I trust my instinct too which is why I’m concerned about my situation. I’ve unfortunately heard too many stories of SA games. And I know I’m useless at anything beyond quid pro quo.


I too have already started looking at other options. I reached out to two resellers recently. I don’t want to do it but I want my damn bag lol
 
I listen to a podcast called the Simple Sophisticate - the host is a complete Francophile, and she recently had an American author as a guest on her show who relocated to Paris from the US about 15 years. While the author was explaining how he adjusted to Parisian culture, he said something that I think explains a lot about how H operates as a company; it demonstrates that H is a product of centuries of French culture.

Customer service in France is primarily about relationship building, whether you are in a Parisian boutique, bakery, or grocery store. People are inherently cold and somewhat distrustful to strangers - this is why the first word out of a lot of French people's mouths in the customer service context is "No" or "Can't be done." They don't know you, they don't know if you genuinely appreciate their business or the services they provide; they just know that you come into their business and demand something, without knowing what sort of person you are, if you are a loyal customer, or anything else. But once you demonstrate yourself to be a loyal customer who is genuinely interested in the product or service over an extended period of time, and show you are interested in building a relationship and not merely demanding on the spot satisfaction, then suddenly doors open for you.

Of course this stands in stark contrast to American style customer service, where shop attendants fall all over themselves to help you or provide you with whatever you need. In this era of increased competition across nearly every industry in every market, most companies have switched to this American style of service. But it appears H has remained true to its cultural heritage. We can debate whether this is a good business model for today's day and age, and understand why some are put off by it, but I found this explanation really helpful in understanding H's behavior in a larger, cultural context. I hope this information goes a long way in helping everyone here establish and maintain a good H relationship.
 
Hahaha I went to Paris last month and that did nothing She wished me well. I came back and bought a sneaker and a few other things I couldn’t track down there. I surely thought she would have something for me. Nope. Maybe I just need a new SA

If you are feeling this way, move on. How long have you worked with you SA? There is no point continuing to buy with someone whom you feel disgruntled with and whom seemingly could care less about you or your business. Say something, say you are hoping for Christmas/new year gift to self to really make this year special, or to mark some milestone, etc. And you have certain items on your wish list (bracelet...) to help build your profile. Put the ball in his/her court. Then if nothing happens, you have you answer.
 
Thank you for the feedback... I will plan to have a convo with her. I know my list is limited but even something like asking for a indigo or blue nuit picotin with ghw couldn’t be acknowledged. I keep going back and forth between thinking I’m being spoiled to feeling like I’ve spent the amount of 2 Kelly’s in store this year with no bag offer.
2 kelly’s And no offer calls for a reassessment of this relationship building strategy. Don’t let anyone make you their sales quota/goals fairy. Politely express your desire without sound too entitled - see I said ‘too’ because after spending the equivalent of 2 Kellys it’s actually not unreasonable to feel somewhat entitled to 1 kelly offer hehe...but I digress.

Politely speak with him/her go over colors leather and hardware and ask for ETA - sometimes they can tell what’s on order or being shipped to them.
 
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