Maintaining an H relationship

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I'd just like to chime in for a second.

I've been buying H for quite some time now but it was the recent year that I started to REALLY get into the game. Over the course of the year I had two SA's. The first SA is from my local store, and there's only one store here, very small and competitive. I was referred to this SA by a friend and so I was upfront during my first visit that I'd really like to get BKC. She took down my wishlist right away and that got me really excited. But after a few visits, I just feel like something isn't right. Although she took down my wishlist and wrote down in her notebook what I wanted, I always feel like she's very, very sales driven. As in, she doesn't really listen to my interests, rather, she likes to suggest items that I am just simply not interested in. I understand that people needs to make a living - I totally get that - but there are times when you overdo it and you're just not comfortable. At my local store, inventory is very limited, so shopping becomes a challenge. I often find myself having to LOOK for things to buy around the store and the "actual" items on my wishlist are never being checked off. She offers doing worldwide searches for me, but that I would have to pay upfront and the timeline of receiving the item is unknown. What really pushed me over the edge was that although I'm very respectful of her time, but she doesn't seem so. I always e-mail and let her know ahead of time that I will be dropping by, and exactly at what time. Everytime I walk into my appointment, she's always helping another customer. Again, I understand that sometimes your previous client takes a bit longer than usual but I'm also in the sales/customer service industry and I feel that you should know how to manage your client's time and at a certain point you should know to tell your client that your next appointment is here. If it's once or twice I am fine, but I almost always end up waiting for an hour and it just upsets me because I am also very busy, yet I always accommodate her schedule. What's the point of making an appointment if I have to wait over an hour? I also have to pay parking and drive 30-40 minutes down. The other thing that really got me angry is that she's become relatively close to my friend, and I know they send texts to each other. She tells my friend that she's really wanting to offer me something but that I still have to improve my purchase history. But she doesn't know how to tell me or hint to me. She wants me to look at watches, or homeware or whatever. At that point I think I've just had it and I've decided that I'm just going to maybe stop visiting for a while.

During that time, hubby and I travelled to the states and there is an H boutique there. I randomly walked in, without any intention of wanting help from any SA. Then, a really nice gentleman approached me in which I've declined assistance. I kept browsing and he came back as if he was very eager to help without being pushy. Next thing you know, we ended up talking for two hours and all of a sudden I felt like I've found the one. Sure, he's a few hours drive away but I feel like it's worth it and I'm way happier spending money there. So far, we're 6 months into our relationship and he's hinted to offer me multiple BKC but in colors that I was not interested in. He also does keep my wishlist in mind, BKC or not, and he emails me every so often or actually takes the time to call me. He's also super efficient. During my last visit, he said he wants to try to make something work for me before the end of the year. And just last week, he made it happen and it was an offering in the exact specifications I wanted. Just 6 months.

Honestly, it's kind of funny but I feel like maintaining a relationship with your SA from H and finding that perfect SA is really just fate and luck. It almost feels like you're dating that person and both sides has to show commitment. You're helping them by always going back to them no matter what you're looking for, and hopefully you appreciate more than just H's bags or leather goods (which I do), and in return they will surprise you with your dream bag at the right time. For me, it worked out with the second SA. The first SA was more like a friend "matching" us up and sometimes because of that, it doesn't work out. Like how often does it work out when you know your friend is purposely trying to hook you up with another friend? lol. Although I must say that after I disappeared from the first SA for a while, she did end up calling me to offer me a B. I took the offer and am grateful but I sometimes think that its her way of apologizing to me because she knew I was upset at her. I can tell because she said to me that she hopes I can continue to have faith in her and trust her with future purchases. I've decided I will still buy things from her from time to time but I know I will always focus on my second SA, because he actually works hard for me.

I would suggest, like the other wonderful ladies here, to be upfront with your current SA. And if you feel like it's not working out, I would just move on. You will find the one, and I can promise that. Just don't feel discouraged.
 
The bags you were asking for is either highly sought after (Noir Kelly) or very low in stock (Roulis). Also the straps are very popular but most stores don’t order many. Maybe she really can’t get them. Still you should’ve been offered something similar to your wishlist items at least. I’m also waiting on a Roulis and my SA mentions whenever they get new stock although it may not be the exact color I’m waiting for but she wants to let me know just in case. I’ve passed on more than 5 already. If I see something I like online then I just order to pick up at my store. It doesn’t hurt my relationship with my SA. After all, they’re there to assist my shopping, aren’t they? I love my SA but don’t like some of other SAs at my store. I’ve heard others complain about some of them as well. I think it’s really important that you like the person you’re working with to have a pleasant experience especially spending that much money. I’m sure I’m nowhere near VIP status but my SA treats me like a VIP.
Exactly.. When I first met my SA I was just looking for a pair of rivage sandals and it was just shy of $300 usd. It wasn't available at the time but he volunteered to help me track down a pair in my size. It took some time but two months later I received them. I was so happy. I feel that my SA is happy to help, regardless of what and how much I buy. He treats me like a VIP even though I know I'm not one. I admire that because he sees our relationship as a long term thing and just because you can't afford it today or won't buy something expensive today doesn't mean you won't later.
 
I'm really struggling with my relationship with my SA. I have maintained a pretty close relationship with my SA over the last year. I've purchased quite a bit and only purchase what I love, but it has included a non quota bag, several pairs of shoes, belt straps, perfume, homewares. I have also purchased items from other stores on Vacation out of the country. I've been clear with my SA whats on my list, I call or email prior to coming in. I also email/call for things I might be looking for more immediately. I visited with her two weeks ago tried on a common bracelet but it was too large, its now been over two weeks with no call or mention of the item. I called her and she said "well it was on hold for another customer at another store but they were supposed to call me back several days ago"... meanwhile the bracelet is sitting available online. I wanted to wear it to an event on Sunday. The same with a strap I've asked for, in fact the things I ask for that are supposed to be transferred in or tracked down rarely are, with no mention of it. She doesn't do email really either.

I have brought up my wish for 2-3 specific bags in colors and HW(kelly and a Roulis) and nothing. She seems to listen and always writes it down but never have I been offered anything other than an evelyne or halzan.

At this point would you say since I am only 1 year in to wait ti out a bit, or just order the stuff I like from the website? Any advice would be helpful. I actually want the items because I love them, but had been intentionally buying from her to build my profile. Now I'm not sure thats getting me anywhere.
Oops sorry I feel like I should have quoted your post in my long essay. Lol.
 
The bags you were asking for is either highly sought after (Noir Kelly) or very low in stock (Roulis). Also the straps are very popular but most stores don’t order many. Maybe she really can’t get them. Still you should’ve been offered something similar to your wishlist items at least. I’m also waiting on a Roulis and my SA mentions whenever they get new stock although it may not be the exact color I’m waiting for but she wants to let me know just in case. I’ve passed on more than 5 already. If I see something I like online then I just order to pick up at my store. It doesn’t hurt my relationship with my SA. After all, they’re there to assist my shopping, aren’t they? I love my SA but don’t like some of other SAs at my store. I’ve heard others complain about some of them as well. I think it’s really important that you like the person you’re working with to have a pleasant experience especially spending that much money. I’m sure I’m nowhere near VIP status but my SA treats me like a VIP.


Good point. I just would have liked to actually be offered anything. To know she’s looking out for me, I don’t have many hard set rules other than gold hardware and I would say no to purple or blue bags. I have several friends who shop that store and get pictures and all sorts of offered from their SA of bags I would have taken in a heartbeat. I’ve also lost out on items thinking that when they came into the store she would grab them. Never has she ever called me to say she has an item. I’ve been asking for the strap for well over 7 months. Nothing. It’s popped up online and I haven’t ordered it. Lesson learned. I will say that I like her personality and she has been at H for a long time now so I also would think that she would have seniority to get me something by now.
 
I'd just like to chime in for a second.

I've been buying H for quite some time now but it was the recent year that I started to REALLY get into the game. Over the course of the year I had two SA's. The first SA is from my local store, and there's only one store here, very small and competitive. I was referred to this SA by a friend and so I was upfront during my first visit that I'd really like to get BKC. She took down my wishlist right away and that got me really excited. But after a few visits, I just feel like something isn't right. Although she took down my wishlist and wrote down in her notebook what I wanted, I always feel like she's very, very sales driven. As in, she doesn't really listen to my interests, rather, she likes to suggest items that I am just simply not interested in. I understand that people needs to make a living - I totally get that - but there are times when you overdo it and you're just not comfortable. At my local store, inventory is very limited, so shopping becomes a challenge. I often find myself having to LOOK for things to buy around the store and the "actual" items on my wishlist are never being checked off. She offers doing worldwide searches for me, but that I would have to pay upfront and the timeline of receiving the item is unknown. What really pushed me over the edge was that although I'm very respectful of her time, but she doesn't seem so. I always e-mail and let her know ahead of time that I will be dropping by, and exactly at what time. Everytime I walk into my appointment, she's always helping another customer. Again, I understand that sometimes your previous client takes a bit longer than usual but I'm also in the sales/customer service industry and I feel that you should know how to manage your client's time and at a certain point you should know to tell your client that your next appointment is here. If it's once or twice I am fine, but I almost always end up waiting for an hour and it just upsets me because I am also very busy, yet I always accommodate her schedule. What's the point of making an appointment if I have to wait over an hour? I also have to pay parking and drive 30-40 minutes down. The other thing that really got me angry is that she's become relatively close to my friend, and I know they send texts to each other. She tells my friend that she's really wanting to offer me something but that I still have to improve my purchase history. But she doesn't know how to tell me or hint to me. She wants me to look at watches, or homeware or whatever. At that point I think I've just had it and I've decided that I'm just going to maybe stop visiting for a while.

During that time, hubby and I travelled to the states and there is an H boutique there. I randomly walked in, without any intention of wanting help from any SA. Then, a really nice gentleman approached me in which I've declined assistance. I kept browsing and he came back as if he was very eager to help without being pushy. Next thing you know, we ended up talking for two hours and all of a sudden I felt like I've found the one. Sure, he's a few hours drive away but I feel like it's worth it and I'm way happier spending money there. So far, we're 6 months into our relationship and he's hinted to offer me multiple BKC but in colors that I was not interested in. He also does keep my wishlist in mind, BKC or not, and he emails me every so often or actually takes the time to call me. He's also super efficient. During my last visit, he said he wants to try to make something work for me before the end of the year. And just last week, he made it happen and it was an offering in the exact specifications I wanted. Just 6 months.

Honestly, it's kind of funny but I feel like maintaining a relationship with your SA from H and finding that perfect SA is really just fate and luck. It almost feels like you're dating that person and both sides has to show commitment. You're helping them by always going back to them no matter what you're looking for, and hopefully you appreciate more than just H's bags or leather goods (which I do), and in return they will surprise you with your dream bag at the right time. For me, it worked out with the second SA. The first SA was more like a friend "matching" us up and sometimes because of that, it doesn't work out. Like how often does it work out when you know your friend is purposely trying to hook you up with another friend? lol. Although I must say that after I disappeared from the first SA for a while, she did end up calling me to offer me a B. I took the offer and am grateful but I sometimes think that its her way of apologizing to me because she knew I was upset at her. I can tell because she said to me that she hopes I can continue to have faith in her and trust her with future purchases. I've decided I will still buy things from her from time to time but I know I will always focus on my second SA, because he actually works hard for me.

I would suggest, like the other wonderful ladies here, to be upfront with your current SA. And if you feel like it's not working out, I would just move on. You will find the one, and I can promise that. Just don't feel discouraged.


Thank you for this. I actually really like my SA in terms of personality. I’m just not sure of anything else haha. I don’t have any other Stores close, I suppose I could try something out of state but who knows how often I’ll get there. I’ll have a frank conversation with her and gauge from there.
 
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Thank you for this. I actually really like my SA in terms of personality. I’m just not sure of anything else haha. I don’t have any other Stores close, I suppose I could try something out of state but who knows how often I’ll get there. I’ll have a frank conversation with her and gauge from there.
I would say my first SA has a good personality in general, she's nice, but it was little things here and there that I picked up (late to appointments, etc) I just didn't feel like she had me in mind. I think my visits with her are average at best because it all seems very transactional. With my second SA, he's very warm and outgoing and very knowledgeable about the brand so I love engaging in conversation with him because I can also learn. He would also say things like "I know you're looking for this and I remember, but we haven't received it but I'll keep my eyes peeled". It's those little reminders that make me feel appreciated.

Yes, I would start with a conversation with her, and then if she doesn't seem to be receptive then another pfer here suggested talking to the SM.. I've never done that before but perhaps that could work? Good luck.
 
I would say my first SA has a good personality in general, she's nice, but it was little things here and there that I picked up (late to appointments, etc) I just didn't feel like she had me in mind. I think my visits with her are average at best because it all seems very transactional. With my second SA, he's very warm and outgoing and very knowledgeable about the brand so I love engaging in conversation with him because I can also learn. He would also say things like "I know you're looking for this and I remember, but we haven't received it but I'll keep my eyes peeled". It's those little reminders that make me feel appreciated.

Yes, I would start with a conversation with her, and then if she doesn't seem to be receptive then another pfer here suggested talking to the SM.. I've never done that before but perhaps that could work? Good luck.


Now that I read your comparison, I would say that she and I get along well but I don't ever get the "I remember you are looking for x" After a year, I would want her to see things and think of me...am I asking too much. Anyone who has known me for some time knows I don't like red, blue, purple. I wear black everyday, and my favorite color is green. I however, haven't even been offered anything in any color or family. I am trying to figure out if I say to her "I feel like I have asked for several things over the last year and have waited on them without much luck through you... I'd like to figure out if my expectations don't match up with your style" I have a sense of urgency about things and when I want something I just know I want it, I don't mind waiting as long as I know its coming but ughhhhhhh even something as small as a black and ciel twilly I still am sad I didn't get it.

I am not comfortable switching to another SA in the same store... I've decided that I will get the things I see even if I see them on the website because I can't wait for her. I am visiting two stores soon and hopefully I will connect with someone there.
 
Now that I read your comparison, I would say that she and I get along well but I don't ever get the "I remember you are looking for x" After a year, I would want her to see things and think of me...am I asking too much. Anyone who has known me for some time knows I don't like red, blue, purple. I wear black everyday, and my favorite color is green. I however, haven't even been offered anything in any color or family. I am trying to figure out if I say to her "I feel like I have asked for several things over the last year and have waited on them without much luck through you... I'd like to figure out if my expectations don't match up with your style" I have a sense of urgency about things and when I want something I just know I want it, I don't mind waiting as long as I know its coming but ughhhhhhh even something as small as a black and ciel twilly I still am sad I didn't get it.

I am not comfortable switching to another SA in the same store... I've decided that I will get the things I see even if I see them on the website because I can't wait for her. I am visiting two stores soon and hopefully I will connect with someone there.
Good look, and keep us posted. I love to read these SA stories
 
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Now that I read your comparison, I would say that she and I get along well but I don't ever get the "I remember you are looking for x" After a year, I would want her to see things and think of me...am I asking too much. Anyone who has known me for some time knows I don't like red, blue, purple. I wear black everyday, and my favorite color is green. I however, haven't even been offered anything in any color or family. I am trying to figure out if I say to her "I feel like I have asked for several things over the last year and have waited on them without much luck through you... I'd like to figure out if my expectations don't match up with your style" I have a sense of urgency about things and when I want something I just know I want it, I don't mind waiting as long as I know its coming but ughhhhhhh even something as small as a black and ciel twilly I still am sad I didn't get it.

I am not comfortable switching to another SA in the same store... I've decided that I will get the things I see even if I see them on the website because I can't wait for her. I am visiting two stores soon and hopefully I will connect with someone there.

If you aren’t switching SAs then I think you definitely need to say something, but your quote above may be too harsh if you do want to continue the relationship. I would be blunt no doubt. Maybe more along the lines of you really enjoy shopping in the store and are committed to keep buying through her, but you have several items on your list and you want to make sure she is still interested in working with you to get those items. You have identified those items, but feel frustrated that none of them seem to make their way to you timely. I would pick one item and tell her when you need it by. Make a decision if she cannot follow through. That’s just my 2 cents.
 
If you aren’t switching SAs then I think you definitely need to say something, but your quote above may be too harsh if you do want to continue the relationship. I would be blunt no doubt. Maybe more along the lines of you really enjoy shopping in the store and are committed to keep buying through her, but you have several items on your list and you want to make sure she is still interested in working with you to get those items. You have identified those items, but feel frustrated that none of them seem to make their way to you timely. I would pick one item and tell her when you need it by. Make a decision if she cannot follow through. That’s just my 2 cents.

Thank you for the feedback... I will plan to have a convo with her. I know my list is limited but even something like asking for a indigo or blue nuit picotin with ghw couldn’t be acknowledged. I keep going back and forth between thinking I’m being spoiled to feeling like I’ve spent the amount of 2 Kelly’s in store this year with no bag offer.
 
Thank you for the feedback... I will plan to have a convo with her. I know my list is limited but even something like asking for a indigo or blue nuit picotin with ghw couldn’t be acknowledged. I keep going back and forth between thinking I’m being spoiled to feeling like I’ve spent the amount of 2 Kelly’s in store this year with no bag offer.

That isn’t acceptable. I have spent much less and received many offers. Even my husband has a small profile and he gets offers for me. We are not VIPs. Even if it isn’t exactly what I asked for, my SA will show me things I may like. Now, as you know, H doesn’t always have control over what inventory they get, but your SA needs to make an effort to get you the things on your list. If it was one thing, could understand, but nothing!? No way. It may be solved through a conversation, and I hope it is and you get your lovely items!
 
That isn’t acceptable. I have spent much less and received many offers. Even my husband has a small profile and he gets offers for me. We are not VIPs. Even if it isn’t exactly what I asked for, my SA will show me things I may like. Now, as you know, H doesn’t always have control over what inventory they get, but your SA needs to make an effort to get you the things on your list. If it was one thing, could understand, but nothing!? No way. It may be solved through a conversation, and I hope it is and you get your lovely items!


I’ll speak to her. Thank you for the reassurance!
 
Thank you for the feedback... I will plan to have a convo with her. I know my list is limited but even something like asking for a indigo or blue nuit picotin with ghw couldn’t be acknowledged. I keep going back and forth between thinking I’m being spoiled to feeling like I’ve spent the amount of 2 Kelly’s in store this year with no bag offer.

I would definitely have a chat with her and set expectations clearly. Sometimes hinting or waiting just doesn’t work for some SAs. I used to be super shy about asking for things, and now I just ping my SA and say something like “I saw this color in this hardware, it looks absolutely gorgeous! Can I put this on my wishlist please?” And it’s been working pretty well. She usually responds with let me see if I can get you something this week or next month etc. My store has a lot of VIPs and I know I can’t compete with them, but I do spend a fair amount, so I just speak up whenever I want something and not wait around :)
 
I would definitely have a chat with her and set expectations clearly. Sometimes hinting or waiting just doesn’t work for some SAs. I used to be super shy about asking for things, and now I just ping my SA and say something like “I saw this color in this hardware, it looks absolutely gorgeous! Can I put this on my wishlist please?” And it’s been working pretty well. She usually responds with let me see if I can get you something this week or next month etc. My store has a lot of VIPs and I know I can’t compete with them, but I do spend a fair amount, so I just speak up whenever I want something and not wait around :smile:


Thanks! I actually go over my wishlist with her each time I visit and usually say something like excited to get one of these soon!! I have spoken up, but maybe I need to be more direct. I’m thinking I’ll visit next week and say “I’d like to add a bag from my wishlist off my collection for the holidays” and see what she says or does.
 
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