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LaGeekChic said:
They use sewing machines for certain parts of the process, but still handcrafted.

OnTopic: I agree with Shoebaglady: if you don't think you'll be happy carrying it, just take it back :)

You know that there is less handcrafting involved than they would like us to believe, right? Or why else did LV not divulge exactly what it is that one of their "200 artisans" has laid their hands on...? Or do they consider guiding that hand sewing machine that they quote as the handcrafted part? There is a lot more machine made and less hand made going on than we want to think. Or how else would only 200 artisans be able to provide the world with thousands of products of it weren't for machines?
 
All my SA ever said to me was that it was "hand finished" I didn't inquire further so she didn't elaborate.

I exchanged my Eva today and the new one doesn't have the same issue with the stitching so I'm happy. The pleat is also not as lopsided so I'm happy about that too. The ZCP also came in today so I'm all set :) Thanks for helping me through this. It doesn't seem like such a big issue now but it did at the time! And you know the funny part is they said the bag is still salable so they are going to sell it to someone else who isn't as picky as me. I would think the stitching issue would be considered a defect but I guess not in their eyes? Oh well.
 
You know that there is less handcrafting involved than they would like us to believe, right? Or why else did LV not divulge exactly what it is that one of their "200 artisans" has laid their hands on...? Or do they consider guiding that hand sewing machine that they quote as the handcrafted part? There is a lot more machine made and less hand made going on than we want to think. Or how else would only 200 artisans be able to provide the world with thousands of products of it weren't for machines?

^^ You got a point, for sure. Thanks for explaining it in a clear way ;) I guess we'll all be kept in the dark about what their manufacturing process exactly is.

OP: glad you got a replacement. I saw the stitching issue on my computer, wow, that is a defect for sure. How interesting that they are trying to sell it to someone "less picky", they probably hope someone won't notice it...
 
cha9112 said:
I exchanged my Eva today and the new one doesn't have the same issue with the stitching so I'm happy. The pleat is also not as lopsided so I'm happy about that too. The ZCP also came in today so I'm all set :) Thanks for helping me through this. It doesn't seem like such a big issue now but it did at the time! And you know the funny part is they said the bag is still salable so they are going to sell it to someone else who isn't as picky as me. I would think the stitching issue would be considered a defect but I guess not in their eyes? Oh well.

I'm so sorry I didn't get a chance to take pics today, the LO wouldn't nap and wanted to play all day and night! lol

I'm glad you got everything you wanted and it sickens me that they are still selling that same Eva! I completely understand that the mismatched creasing may only be annoying to OCD people like us but the BROKEN stitch?! That's disgusting. -__-
 
I'm so sorry I didn't get a chance to take pics today, the LO wouldn't nap and wanted to play all day and night! lol

I'm glad you got everything you wanted and it sickens me that they are still selling that same Eva! I completely understand that the mismatched creasing may only be annoying to OCD people like us but the BROKEN stitch?! That's disgusting. -__-

I have a three week old so I totally understand :smile1:
 
^^ You got a point, for sure. Thanks for explaining it in a clear way ;) I guess we'll all be kept in the dark about what their manufacturing process exactly is.

OP: glad you got a replacement. I saw the stitching issue on my computer, wow, that is a defect for sure. How interesting that they are trying to sell it to someone "less picky", they probably hope someone won't notice it...

That's exactly what they said! They didn't even really bother to look at it. I overheard the SA mention to the Manager the reason she was processing the exchange and the SA said it was salable so I interjected and pointed out the stitching issue to the manager and she just smiled and said it was okay to resell (to the Associate). Not my problem anymore so I didn't say anything else. The new one didn't have this same issue so I call it a defect.

As far as the hand-made thing is concerned...I saw a video several months ago on LV's website which showed them hand-stitching the vachetta of the bag (handles, etc) after using some type of machine to make the holes where they thread the needle. This is the yellow stitching you see on monogram and DA bags. I think the part that is machine-sewn is on the canvas and folds. I cat find that video anymore but I think it's part machine-sewn and a small part is hand-made. This is what I was led to believe from watching the video.
 
That's exactly what they said! They didn't even really bother to look at it. I overheard the SA mention to the Manager the reason she was processing the exchange and the SA said it was salable so I interjected and pointed out the stitching issue to the manager and she just smiled and said it was okay to resell (to the Associate). Not my problem anymore so I didn't say anything else. The new one didn't have this same issue so I call it a defect.

As far as the hand-made thing is concerned...I saw a video several months ago on LV's website which showed them hand-stitching the vachetta of the bag (handles, etc) after using some type of machine to make the holes where they thread the needle. This is the yellow stitching you see on monogram and DA bags. I think the part that is machine-sewn is on the canvas and folds. I cat find that video anymore but I think it's part machine-sewn and a small part is hand-made. This is what I was led to believe from watching the video.

That is also what I believe. I've read it too many times not to believe it. Obviously we'll never know what the deal exactly is, but oh well! Not going to love the bags any less.

As for the bag: you're right, it is no longer your problem. Strange that they put defected bags back into their inventory :S Just would be really funny if another tPFer would show up on this board with your bag + same problem :P
 
cha9112 said:
I have a three week old so I totally understand :smile1:

Congrats! :hugs:

LaGeekChic smartly pointed out that it would be weird if another TPF member bought the same defective bag leads me to ask if you can share which store you went to? Hopefully it'll give someone a heads up if they go to the same store as you looking for a Eva.
 
The speedy is not the same as it was many years ago, but it's still a great bag that will last you for many many wonderful years. Buy quickly so you can try to get a made in the USA or MIF tag and not the new cloth tag and you'll be fine. Speedies are wonderful. Timing of the downturn was late 1980s, with increased downturn in the last year. I still recommend this bag though wholeheartedly, although my recommendation is to buy ASAP before things get worse.

Every LV lover needs a speedy! They are absolutely wonderful!
 
Thank you! I actually have the speedy 30 in mono and a speedy 35 in mono is on the way. The 30 is made in 2001 and the 35 is made in 2009. The 30 held up amazingly but I'm planning to sell it because I got the 35 ( I love bigger bags). I like to buy preloved because of this issue but I'm not sure how far back I should go. I could definitely tell the difference with the 30 compared to the ones in the store. So my question is, is speedy bags made in 2009 still considered the same quality as 2001?
 
Thank you! I actually have the speedy 30 in mono and a speedy 35 in mono is on the way. The 30 is made in 2001 and the 35 is made in 2009. The 30 held up amazingly but I'm planning to sell it because I got the 35 ( I love bigger bags). I like to buy preloved because of this issue but I'm not sure how far back I should go. I could definitely tell the difference with the 30 compared to the ones in the store. So my question is, is speedy bags made in 2009 still considered the same quality as 2001?

Probably similar, maybe a "little less." I would hold onto it for six months or do before selling. It will only go up in value because of the new tags. You might like having both sizes as well.
 
How soon after you got the bag did you bring it back to the store?

I would go back with your husband and speak to the manager (who is probably the person that refused the return). They need to make it right and you need to fight! Hopefully you will get a response from customer relations; you may have to put it in writing. You can also try returning to another LV store.
Update... they on;y fixed the strap, I was disappointed but what can I do. I took the back and left. Thank you so much for everybody helpful advice.
 
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