Lt. Colonel Johnny Thompson of the Scots Guards and Handsome Men In Kilts **Appreciation Thread

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This is the photograph the Telegraph chose to put at the top of the page covering the Tour to France. Jonny is now the most recognised worldwide of all the King's Aides. I saw a French policeman come up to shake his hand. As Jessie said, front or back, you can't mistake his RRS Uniform. It stands out a mile and is unusual. His stature and height also make Jonny very noticeable, and his demeanour, firm but friendly.

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It was the same in Germany. I remember seeing a couple of photos of soldiers/officers who wanted their picture taken with Jonny.
 
Question for RomeGirl

When Mr RomeGirl is no longer fussing about cooking his own dinner and has decided he is ready to help us again with some military stuff, I have a couple of questions about headdress feathers :smile:

I am really curious about the lack of feathers in Jonny's Glengarry. He wore the feathers in his headdress at the airport but since then they have been missing in action.

You mentioned he might have removed them because he is in a car rather than a van. Couldn't he add or remove them as he is entering and leaving the vehicle? I don't know how the Blackcock feathers are mounted behind the cap badge, if there is a clasp of sorts, so I don't know if it is possible to do that on the fly. Same with the Tam O'Shanter - Is there a clasp to hold the hackle in place?

Some type of "feather disaster" is the only thing I can think of that might account for the "missing in action" feathers!

Please tell us what you know!
 
Question for RomeGirl

When Mr RomeGirl is no longer fussing about cooking his own dinner and has decided he is ready to help us again with some military stuff, I have a couple of questions about headdress feathers :smile:

I am really curious about the lack of feathers in Jonny's Glengarry. He wore the feathers in his headdress at the airport but since then they have been missing in action.

You mentioned he might have removed them because he is in a car rather than a van. Couldn't he add or remove them as he is entering and leaving the vehicle? I don't know how the Blackcock feathers are mounted behind the cap badge, if there is a clasp of sorts, so I don't know if it is possible to do that on the fly. Same with the Tam O'Shanter - Is there a clasp to hold the hackle in place?

Some type of "feather disaster" is the only thing I can think of that might account for the "missing in action" feathers!

Please tell us what you know!
It's a bit complicated and you definitely wouldn't want to be doing it every few minutes. Split pins and loops involved. I'll find some pics for you as it is quite hard to explain! Stay tuned.
 
It's a bit complicated and you definitely wouldn't want to be doing it every few minutes. Split pins and loops involved. I'll find some pics for you as it is quite hard to explain! Stay tuned.
OK... Let's see if I can make this make sense.

The Glengarry is blue, with a band of red, green, and white dice, and the red toorie (bobble) on top. On the left side is a black silk cockade on which is worn the regimental cap badge, with the addition of the blackcock feathers - black facing out, white facing in. - according to the Dress Regulations.

The Glengarry, cap badge, and feathers are three separate pieces and have to be put together.


This is the Glengarry complete - with badge, crown, and black cock:

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The Glengarry as supplied without attached badge or feathers, you then have to punch holes in the cockade to fit the badge loops through:

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Cap Badge with Crown, front view:

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Back of cap badge, and the crown, showing their loops, the backing plate (for storage), and the split pins to insert on the inside of the Glengarry, through the inserted loops, to hold the badge and crown in place.
The badge can be worn on its own, or with the feathers inserted - depending on occasion:

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The black cock feathers (front and back views) with their plate attached. The plate fits onto the Glengarry, behind the cockade, and is attached with the badge on top, the loops of the badge going through the cockade and the plate of the black cock to the inside. Then it is secured on the inside with the split pins:

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This shows an incorrectly positioned crown, and badly inserted black cock with the plate visible:

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This is it all positioned correctly but without the crown:
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Sorry for the l o n g description. Bet you wished you hadn't asked!!! :biggrin:
 
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I don't know how the Blackcock feathers are mounted behind the cap badge, if there is a clasp of sorts, so I don't know if it is possible to do that on the fly. Same with the Tam O'Shanter - Is there a clasp to hold the hackle in place?
Wash your mouth out!!!!!! Never, ever, refer to an RRS Officer's 'beret' as a Tam!!! :lol:

Other ranks wear the Tam O'shanter. Officers wear the Balmoral. Very subtle but definite differences.

Balmoral is a subtly different lighter colour, has a slightly smaller and more ellipse shape crown... and has a different (silk) lining.

The badge is attached in the same way as on the Glengarry, but over the RRS tartan patch instead of the silk cockade. The hackle is attached to the Balmoral (or Tam) in the same way as the blackcock on the Glengarry.

Edited to add pic. Jonny in the Balmoral, the other chap in the Tam O'Shanter. You can see the different colour and slight difference in shape clearly here.

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Wash your mouth out!!!!!! Never, ever, refer to an RRS Officer's 'beret' as a Tam!!! :lol:

Other ranks wear the Tam O'shanter. Officers wear the Balmoral. Very subtle but definite differences.

Balmoral is a subtly different lighter colour, has a slightly smaller and more ellipse shape crown... and has a different (silk) lining.

The badge is attached in the same way as on the Glengarry, but over the RRS tartan patch instead of the silk cockade. The hackle is attached to the Balmoral (or Tam) in the same way as the blackcock on the Glengarry.
I just tried to answer your two headdress posts and managed to frightfully jumble them into one combined mess that is posted just above. So scratch and ignore those and I'm starting over. :nuts:

I saw the "Balmoral" in the manual but it looks, to my untrained eye, just like a Tam! No insult to any officer or other ranks intended! So, at some point, more pictures may be the order of the day to show us how to distinguish between. :wtf:

Going to find a bar of soap.
 
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