Loewe Paid Authentication Services

[leyoche]

Yes, I have attached some close-ups of photos from that blog post, as well as (sadly) some bags I see listed on a preloved website right now being sold.
You can see that there are lines in between the gaps where the panels are. The real Puzzle bags wouldn't have anything underneath the Puzzle panels (it should look like one solid piece underneath the top layer, if that makes sense). Absolutely none of the real Puzzle bags from Loewe itself will ever have these "separate" pieces - it should look cohesive and smooth in those narrow gaps.

Additionally, the Puzzle Edge bag from the blogpost has the worst stitching I've ever seen. That's definitely a fake bag. The stitches are white, whereas the bag should at the very least have tonal, or same color stitching.

That being said though, although these are only 2 way to tell the Puzzle bag is fake, I'm certain there are other fake bags out there that don't have these broken "seams" and have smooth stitching. Honestly, it all comes down to the leather feel and smell. For smooth calfskin, the fake bags will have a very slight "sheen" and look shinier, whereas the real ones will look more matte. The best way to authenticate a Puzzle/Loewe bag is to familiarize yourself with how the authentic Loewe bags' leather looks, smells, and feels. The fake bags will never be able to imitate the true, high quality leather that Loewe is known for, but it can definitely be deceptive to those who didn't know any better (such as myself), since replicas can still use leather, but at a much, much lower quality.

I was luckily able to return my fake bag. However, even though I submitted the certification from a 3rd party agreeing that the bag was fake, this particular reseller website where I bought it from, responded by saying that they "stand by their authentication process", said my bag was authentic, and re-listed it on their website. It has been sold to someone else. It's upsetting to me that the replicas are getting away with selling their bags online for the cost of real ones.
I hope this helps!!! Please, please do your research and be careful when buying Loewe bags online!

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I think this was the original post that set off my intrigue.

Some other medium puzzles that are discontinuous in the back
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-medium-puzzle-bag-ijiul (2014)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-medium-puzzle-bag-htbvx (2015)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-puzzle-bag-ifq0m (2016)
https://www.fashionphile.com/p/loewe-calfskin-medium-puzzle-bag-beige-597308 (2016)

LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag Black | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag in Black. This elegant handbag is crafted of black calfskin leather. The bag features a rear zipper pocket, a black top handle, an optional shoulder strap, and silver hardware. This top zipper opens to a beige fabric interior with patch pockets.

www.fashionphile.com

LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag Tan | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag in Tan. This stunning bag is crafted of smooth calfskin leather in light brown. The bag features a rolled leather handle, a rear zipper pocket, and an adjustable leather shoulder strap with polished silver hardware. The top zipper opens to a...

www.fashionphile.com

LOEWE Puzzle Medium Leather Shoulder Bag Red

Item Details: Designer: LOEWE Model: Puzzle Medium Retail: N/A Style: Shoulder Bag Material: Leather Color: Red Made: Spain Measurements: W 11" H 7" D 5" Accessories: No Accessories. Condition Detail: Excellent - The Item is in excellent condition with minimal signs of use. Outside: Signs of...

www.dallasdesignerhandbags.com

Loewe Handbags for Women - Vestiaire Collective

Buy second-hand Loewe Handbags for Women on Vestiaire Collective. Buy, sell, empty your wardrobe on our website.

www.vestiairecollective.com

Puzzle leather handbag Loewe White in Leather - 36818101

Achetez votre puzzle leather handbag Loewe sur Vestiaire Collective, le dépôt vente chic sur Internet. Puzzle leather handbag Loewe White in Leather à prix d'occasion. 36818101

www.vestiairecollective.com

Bonus, small on Fashionphile:

LOEWE Calfskin Small Puzzle Bag Kaolin | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic LOEWE Calfskin Small Puzzle Bag in Kaolin. This messenger bag is crafted of soft, supple calfskin leather in off-white. The bag features a rear zipper pocket, a rolled handle, and an adjustable leather shoulder strap with polished silver hardware. The top zipper opens to a...

www.fashionphile.com

Bags that don't have it
https://www.fashionphile.com/p/loewe-calfskin-medium-puzzle-bag-tan-1272220 (2017)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-medium-puzzle-bag-i4aw8 (2018)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-2021-medium-puzzle-bag-hva2k (2021)

Loewe Handbags for Women - Vestiaire Collective

Buy second-hand Loewe Handbags for Women on Vestiaire Collective. Buy, sell, empty your wardrobe on our website.

www.vestiairecollective.com

(2018)
(2018)
https://www.selfridges.com/US/en/ca...multi-function-leather-bag_735-10143-32230S20 (selfridges)

My theory is that design maybe changed between 2016 and 2017? There's a lot of limited release bags that I'm seeing with this discontinuous pattern as well. I think I'll try to authenticate via legit grails!

 

[Addicted to bags]

I think this was the original post that set off my intrigue.

Some other medium puzzles that are discontinuous in the back
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-medium-puzzle-bag-ijiul (2014)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-medium-puzzle-bag-htbvx (2015)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-puzzle-bag-ifq0m (2016)
https://www.fashionphile.com/p/loewe-calfskin-medium-puzzle-bag-beige-597308 (2016)

LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag Black | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag in Black. This elegant handbag is crafted of black calfskin leather. The bag features a rear zipper pocket, a black top handle, an optional shoulder strap, and silver hardware. This top zipper opens to a beige fabric interior with patch pockets.

www.fashionphile.com

LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag Tan | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic LOEWE Calfskin Medium Puzzle Bag in Tan. This stunning bag is crafted of smooth calfskin leather in light brown. The bag features a rolled leather handle, a rear zipper pocket, and an adjustable leather shoulder strap with polished silver hardware. The top zipper opens to a...

www.fashionphile.com

LOEWE Puzzle Medium Leather Shoulder Bag Red

Item Details: Designer: LOEWE Model: Puzzle Medium Retail: N/A Style: Shoulder Bag Material: Leather Color: Red Made: Spain Measurements: W 11" H 7" D 5" Accessories: No Accessories. Condition Detail: Excellent - The Item is in excellent condition with minimal signs of use. Outside: Signs of...

www.dallasdesignerhandbags.com

Loewe Handbags for Women - Vestiaire Collective

Buy second-hand Loewe Handbags for Women on Vestiaire Collective. Buy, sell, empty your wardrobe on our website.

www.vestiairecollective.com

Puzzle leather handbag Loewe White in Leather - 36818101

Achetez votre puzzle leather handbag Loewe sur Vestiaire Collective, le dépôt vente chic sur Internet. Puzzle leather handbag Loewe White in Leather à prix d'occasion. 36818101

www.vestiairecollective.com

Bonus, small on Fashionphile:

LOEWE Calfskin Small Puzzle Bag Kaolin | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic LOEWE Calfskin Small Puzzle Bag in Kaolin. This messenger bag is crafted of soft, supple calfskin leather in off-white. The bag features a rear zipper pocket, a rolled handle, and an adjustable leather shoulder strap with polished silver hardware. The top zipper opens to a...

www.fashionphile.com

Bags that don't have it
https://www.fashionphile.com/p/loewe-calfskin-medium-puzzle-bag-tan-1272220 (2017)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-medium-puzzle-bag-i4aw8 (2018)
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/handle-bags/loewe-2021-medium-puzzle-bag-hva2k (2021)

Loewe Handbags for Women - Vestiaire Collective

Buy second-hand Loewe Handbags for Women on Vestiaire Collective. Buy, sell, empty your wardrobe on our website.

www.vestiairecollective.com

(2018)
(2018)
https://www.selfridges.com/US/en/ca...multi-function-leather-bag_735-10143-32230S20 (selfridges)

My theory is that design maybe changed between 2016 and 2017? There's a lot of limited release bags that I'm seeing with this discontinuous pattern as well. I think I'll try to authenticate via legit grails!

Wow, good eye! Please let us know what Legit Grails says.

I have 2 small puzzles and after you posted I went to look at my bags. One has the patch or whatever you called them and one does not. The one with a patch is the older model Puzzle with the wider strap. You have me curious now as I never studied them up close. I purchased the older model from Fashionphile and the no patch one was bought at Nordstrom.

 

[girl_chill]

Saw this on YouTube and it was posted by Loewe… Looks like there are some breaks in the leather too. Maybe because it was in different colors. There is another video showing the tan puzzle being put together but it wasn’t as clear if there were breaks in the leather under the seams.

 

[Addicted to bags]

Saw this on YouTube and it was posted by Loewe… Looks like there are some breaks in the leather too. Maybe because it was in different colors. There is another video showing the tan puzzle being put together but it wasn’t as clear if there were breaks in the leather under the seams.

Thanks for the video. The bag I have with the patch/break in the leather is a multi-colored Puzzle and it's located in the exact same spot as the bag being assembled. Makes me feel a little better!

 

[emeryle]

Saw this on YouTube and it was posted by Loewe… Looks like there are some breaks in the leather too. Maybe because it was in different colors. There is another video showing the tan puzzle being put together but it wasn’t as clear if there were breaks in the leather under the seams.

Ohh thanks for sharing!!! This is good to know!

 

[Bea18]

Are you referring to a hammock with the drawstrings? Or the compact hammock? The mini hammock (with the drawstrings) has been around for a number of years.

Sorry, I mean the mini hobo hammock like this one https://www.loewe.com/apc/en/variat...QcaIMhMzXcGwaArT8EALw_wcB&pid=A538G13X01-2530

 

[starrynight31]

Do you all have a recommendation for an authentication service other than legit grails? I have tried to authenticate this myself and thought it was real but legit grails said not mainly due to the made in label. I just want to get another authenticator opinion before completely writing off purchasing!

 

[BareniaKelly]

Do you all have a recommendation for an authentication service other than legit grails? I have tried to authenticate this myself and thought it was real but legit grails said not mainly due to the made in label. I just want to get another authenticator opinion before completely writing off purchasing!

I recently had one purchase assessed, and the reason for their conclusion that it was a fake was also the fonts and spacing of the branding inside the bag. Part of me wonder if due to various reasons, a third party authenticator is obliged to err on the side of caution. That is to say that a false negative is better than a false positive in cases such as luxury bags purchased for thousands of dollars.

Personally I wasn’t able to tell the difference between what I have and a reference Loewe branding format. But I suppose that’s why we pay them the service fee we paid. Thankfully, as I mentioned, I am reasonably confident about my own skill in distinguishing the hand feels of the brands whose works I am familiar with.

I would love if someone can chime in and help you with your question/s above because I too have been wondering.

Perhaps we can all learn something…?

 

[renzzzsi]

Do you all have a recommendation for an authentication service other than legit grails? I have tried to authenticate this myself and thought it was real but legit grails said not mainly due to the made in label. I just want to get another authenticator opinion before completely writing off purchasing!

Hi there! Did you manage to find another authenticator?

 

[BareniaKelly]

Based on the feedbacks I saw, and my own sense of doubt, I would like to give a word of caution when using Legit Grails as a foundation for telling everyone a seller is selling fakes. If anyone can help with other authenticators for Loewe, I am all ears. For now it seems I only have myself to rely on.

 

[renzzzsi]

Based on the feedbacks I saw, and my own sense of doubt, I would like to give a word of caution when using Legit Grails as a foundation for telling everyone a seller is selling fakes. If anyone can help with other authenticators for Loewe, I am all ears. For now it seems I only have myself to rely on.

Hi there! I had my Loewe Puzzle authenticated using Entrupy after getting upset with Legitgrails. The bag is authentic as per Entrupy check. Such a waste of money for using legitgrails

 

[BareniaKelly]

Hi there! I had my Loewe Puzzle authenticated using Entrupy after getting upset with Legitgrails. The bag is authentic as per Entrupy check. Such a waste of money for using legitgrails

Thanks for that. I might try them next.

My own challenge is not the verdict, but how the verdict was explained. For me, it is not important to say why they have decided that something is a fake. But how this conclusion was made. So if it is the lettering, then show me the letter that is authentic, against the one that I have. In other words, the validity of each of their conclusion must be earned each time.

HOWEVER.

I do understand that this is a sure way of educating counter-fitters who can easily pretend to be clients to gain these information.

I am also aware of the negative campaigns being waged against professional authenticators by sellers of replicas.

There is no easy answer as to how to separate those criminal elements from legitimate clients. But as far as I am concerned, this is why they are being paid to do this job, and that I am the one paying. It is different when groups of enthusiasts were helping each other for free in forums like this.

Once money is involved, expectations changed. I want something for my money that is not available for free. I want more certainty, more market credibility, more information. With processes in place which prevent the same information penetrating the replica market, so that a growing replica market does not become more educated the more I paid to authenticate more high value items.

Otherwise, I can see the secondary preloved luxury designer market bubbling up and bursting along side the primary market.

Part of me think that this might be what needs to happen for all of us to enjoy ourselves again.

Preloved designer shopping isn't as fun anymore. In the past, you only ever need to be worried about Louis Vuitton. Occasionally Chanel. Now, it feels like we have to worry about almost every brand.

As far as Loewe is concerned (because this is a Loewe sub after all), I most of all miss the time when I can shop for older Loewe bags in the secondary market without having to worry about fakes. When this Purse Forum did not think of them as a big enough brand to have its own sub-forum. When the brand was relatively unknown while producing the most amazing leather goods. A topic for another thread I am sure.

 

[renzzzsi]

Thanks for that. I might try them next.

My own challenge is not the verdict, but how the verdict was explained. For me, it is not important to say why they have decided that something is a fake. But how this conclusion was made. So if it is the lettering, then show me the letter that is authentic, against the one that I have. In other words, the validity of each of their conclusion must be earned each time.

HOWEVER.

I do understand that this is a sure way of educating counter-fitters who can easily pretend to be clients to gain these information.

I am also aware of the negative campaigns being waged against professional authenticators by sellers of replicas.

There is no easy answer as to how to separate those criminal elements from legitimate clients. But as far as I am concerned, this is why they are being paid to do this job, and that I am the one paying. It is different when groups of enthusiasts were helping each other for free in forums like this.

Once money is involved, expectations changed. I want something for my money that is not available for free. I want more certainty, more market credibility, more information. With processes in place which prevent the same information penetrating the replica market, so that a growing replica market does not become more educated the more I paid to authenticate more high value items.

Otherwise, I can see the secondary preloved luxury designer market bubbling up and bursting along side the primary market.

Part of me think that this might be what needs to happen for all of us to enjoy ourselves again.

Preloved designer shopping isn't as fun anymore. In the past, you only ever need to be worried about Louis Vuitton. Occasionally Chanel.

Now, it feels like we have to worry about almost every brand.

Reality is because authentication was done online there will be chances of having 50/50 outcome. Legitgrails gave me paranoia. They claim that the problem is the font and logo which made them decide that my item is fake. I also had to find another online authentication to support Entrupy. Dr Runway confirmed my item to be authentic as well.

I am seeing forums here talking about how online authentication can claim that an item is fake when in fact it was bought originally from the luxury shops.

 

[BareniaKelly]

Reality is because authentication was done online there will be chances of having 50/50 outcome. Legitgrails gave me paranoia. They claim that the problem is the font and logo which made them decide that my item is fake. I also had to find another online authentication to support Entrupy. Dr Runway confirmed my item to be authentic as well.

I am seeing forums here talking about how online authentication can claim that an item is fake when in fact it was bought originally from the luxury shops.

I just feel bad for the reseller. The one I bought from was a highly reputable seller who had to suffer a bit of loss because I had to return the bag.

Perhaps engaging multiple authenticators is one solution.

Ergh, that means increasing costs per bag ....

 

[allie23]

Hi lovely Loewe lovers

I am looking to purchase a tricolour puzzle mini that is no longer available directly from Loewe

HBX has the style I want and it says customs and taxes are included, so no additional payment on arrival

Does anyone have experience of purchasing from their site and are all their bags authentic?

Thanks ☺️ 🙏