I don't think Lower leather labels have Made in Spain on them. Something I read elsewhere recently.
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OMG my hardware stamping looks like your mini puzzle!! I am also having doubts about mine too!!! So I bought a small puzzle bag in artichoke green from MYTHERESA and have been using it for weeks! Loving the bag and using it almost every day until my friend brought it to my attention. So I compared it to my bag to her photo of her puzzle that she bought directly from the Loewe store which comes exactly like your picture. I wonder if this is normal to have a variation in stamping? I am also worried too that I got a counterfeit bag by error because all the super fakes are really close to the real thing now-a-days! Sadly I can't even return mine because I already used it and cut the tag
Can I ask did you find out if your mini puzzle is authentic? Also, did you keep the mini bag?
I'm a bit confused? I've read in the fairly reliable 'Closet Full of Cash' guide that Loewe serial numbers are simply a plant code with the middle two numbers being the date code. In that case, isn't it totally possible for a Loewe bag to be made in the same year at the same plant?? I'm quite sure these plants make more than one bag in an entire year, correct??? Their bags are NOT issued individual serial numbers, that's just a factory plant and a date code! I hate to think everyone is panicking here for no reason? I'm quite certain more than one bag can be made in the same year at the same plant! Same as LV just uses a country code & date code, that is quite often seen on more than one bag of the same style.
HERE is the link from Closet Full of Cash that's been in the Designer handbag resale business for decades. I trust them explicitly. And here is a screenshot of what it says. Are you stating this is wrong??
<https://closetfullofcash.com/how-to-read-serial-numbers-and-dates-codes-in-handbags/>
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Good to know! There's very little info on Loewe date codes, but in any case authentication isn't solely dependent on one aspect like the date code.
I'm not any kind of expert, but from what I've read on Closet Full of Cash which has been around for decades, that the numbers stamped on Loewe bags are simply a date code with a country and plant code. They are NOT individually assigned serial numbers. More than one bag can certainly be made in the same year at the same plant! The same way LV uses a date code and country code stamp, often seen as the same on hundreds of their bags.
HERE is the link to their serial numbers guide for just about every designer bag, including Loewe.
<https://closetfullofcash.com/how-to-read-serial-numbers-and-dates-codes-in-handbags/>
HERE is a screenshot of what it says. I have a feeling your bag is just fine. Two Loewe bags can easily have been made during the same year, in the same country at the same plant, so it stands to reason you can see the exa
Yes, it's always a combination of things besides just the number, however, there's several people here thinking their bags are fake because they have the same date code number stamped on another bag made the same year at the same plant that they saw on eBay?? They're even questioning professionals that have deemed their bags genuine because of it??
Excuse me, but are you aware Loewe only uses a date code, country & factory code for the numbers on their bags? They are NOT individual serials numbers specific to a bag! Thousands of their bags are made during the same year at the the same plant, IN the same country!
They use basically the same method as LV, using date codes & country codes, only they add a plant code number as well. You may very well see hundreds of Puzzle bags with your same year, country and plant code.
There are six numbers, the first and last two numbers are for the plant and country,
the second two middle numbers are the YEAR the bag was made. They can absolutely be the SAME on countless other bags made that same year at the same plant, in the same country.
HERE is a GUIDE that explains the Loewe's date code numbers. You have to scroll past the other designers to find it, but it explains them quite well from a trusted source that's been in the hndbag resale business for decades.
How To Read Serial Numbers and Dates Codes in Handbags
Most all luxury branded bag provide clues as to where and when their handbags were made by placing an interior tag (leather, vinyl or fabric) inside of the item. Understanding how to read these is just one step of the authentication process. Below are the
closetfullofcash.com
Thank you. This is good information. I just checked serial codes on my Puzzle bags, and the two middle numbers are consistent with the years they were likely made. I am curious to know if anyone knows what it means if a bag also has a letter "C" debossed to the upper left of the serial number. I have seen it mentioned in a few posts on the closed authentication thread, but no detailed explanation about it.
My small Loewe Hammock Bag in sand with GHW has a "C" just above and left of the serial number. I ordered my bag pre-loved from The Real Real and then had it authenticated again via LegitGrails.
My caramel mini Puzzle bag with GHW I ordered pre-loved from Fashionphile does not have the "C" near the serial number; I also had this one authenticated again via LegitGrails for peace of mind.
@pheebspurse let me know the "C" just means the bag was originally sold at a discounted price, not that the bag is made for outlets.
@jcantu mentioned these "C"-marked bags have been seen at Loewe Outlet stores as well.
Interesting. My "C" stamped bag is the medium black Puzzle I recently ordered from Bergdorf Goodman at a discount and with Rakuten cash back. I ordered it not long after the classic black Puzzles disappeared from the Loewe website. So it could be any remaining classic black Puzzles received the "C" stamp and were destined for the outlets.
This makes me feel better, though. I cannot see any difference in quality between the "C" stamped bag and my other Puzzles. All of them have impeccable quality.
Agreed. Despite the "C", these bags are still impeccably high quality. I wonder what qualifies a Loewe bag to be sold at a discount, maybe they arbitrarily discount a percentage of leftover stock to make way for new styles and color combos.
I didn't think I'd get another Loewe after my mini Puzzle, but it's such a hard-wearing little bag that's beautiful without any babying.
Then, when I got the Hammock everything just felt exactly right--all excitement butterflies and no nervous second guessing.
Loewe has me hooked.
I've seen some bags stamped with a star on the label instead of a C, which apparently means it's from a private sale (I don't know if that means a staff purchase? Or something sent to an outlet).
I ordered 2 classic puzzles recently - 1 from Harrods and 1 directly from Loewe and both had the C stamp. I do wonder if it’s because of the phase out, they’re using stock they may have sent to outlet/sale. Quality on both was great.
LegitGrails also confirmed the same thing to me as other people have mentioned.
I think you're right. I also purchased two Puzzles in the last few months-- a Sand medium and a Tan small. Both were purchased from Nordstrom. They both have the "c" and the quality is excellent, as far as I can tell. The Tan was manufactured in '21 and the Sand '22.
I have 4 small puzzles. They all have the date codes, '18 (Navy), '19 (Tri color blue), '22 (sand), '22 (Tri color tan). No C.
I purchased it off The Real Real. I see a few of the puzzles listed online don’t have a continuous piece backing it actually, especially on the medium. It looks like there was an extra sewn flap on some of the older mediums maybe and the newer mediums don’t have that flap near its mouth. Some of the older ones I’ve been seeing online don’t like continuous. Either way, the hunt is on for a good authentication system for my puzzle! Any recommendations?