Ladies...Any RUDE/CATTY/SNIDE/NASTY Remarks about your Birkins or ANY Hermès Purchase

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I generally don't live in a white/black world, there are many shades of grey. There are no purely mean and purely kind people, it often depends on the situation.

And still if someone attacks me regarding my materialistic possessions, and that person is less fortunate than me, I wouldn't go and brat about my privileged life style. Saying "Im rich and can afford it, and my car us not a cheap 40K car, its 400k"?! That's just very low class to me, I'm sorry.

If a person of a low income with financial problems tells me something mean about my fur or bags or shoes, anything, I might not answer to her because: 1. I don't want to go down her level of rudeness and be mean, 2. She might have a hard life and got angry/upset/tired that moment. 3. Nice reply would warm her heart and might end rudeness, like "I know but I have worked hard for it all my life, and I hope God will bless you with his kindness soon". Maybe these are the words she needed to hear to make her day better and even change her life. Who knows. I guess it was her first time saying something mean to the OP.

I think that most people would not take this rebuttal the way you would like. I think that it may actually trigger more rudeness, especially if the person works 24/7 for minimum wages and believes in God.

I mean no offence, just a thought/suggestion.
 
I think this thread was created as a place to vent for those who have experienced what they feel is rude behaviour regarding their Hermes items.

I'm sure everyone means to be empathetic ... just want to post a reminder that people on PF come from different countries, speak different languages, have different religious beliefs (or none) and different cultures. What is appropriate behaviour somewhere would not be elsewhere.

Everyone is going to judge and respond to rudeness/sarcasm/comments differently. Appreciating that people are trying to be respectful of differing viewpoints, can I ask that we get back to the subject, which is actual instances of rudeness, and not "how I would handle it if it happended to me" kinds of responses?

Many thanks. :flowers:
 
I think that most people would not take this rebuttal the way you would like. I think that it may actually trigger more rudeness, especially if the person works 24/7 for minimum wages and believes in God.

I mean no offence, just a thought/suggestion.

Thank you, I can see that now. Well, you understood my idea, so it can be put in a different form to deliver the message. :smile1:

To get back to the topic. I try not to carry expensive items to work as my office is very conservative. But my colleague (and my main competitor for the leading position) saw my new rouge casaque Birkin during weekend and didn't say anything right away. But he did mention it in front of our boss during the working week, when we were discussing our summer projects and vacation dates. He said that he took his kids for vacation for Christmas and not planning any summer vacation. He said "you know I'm building a new house, and can't afford vacation. In our grown up world we must have priorities, it's not all about bags and shoes, honey, ha ha".

It's extremely hard for me to shut up sometimes so I replied laughing "instead of counting my little girl's shoes, you should count the new cars you buy every year, my dear".

Now I beat myself for allowing him to provoke me and reply this low in front of my boss. Makes me really angry with myself.
He's an *******.
 
wow!! just coming back to this thread, never did i think my pharmacy story would really interest anyone. well, first of all, i went back to pick up a prescription today, and i purposefully swapped my stuff into a black celine bag instead of bringing an hermes bag as an experiment :p nothing was said! so she must not have recognized it. i do know i will be going above and beyond to smile more at her.

thank you for all of the responses ladies :hugs:, i really appreciate everyone validating that it was a little inappropriate. but really what struck me is how observant people are and i am not aware of it. when i am in sweatpants, a northface coat and a parchment B turned in, i figure no one is thinking twice (it isn't like i am running errands in fur and those crazy louboutins i have)

some of the responses given here were very funny! in the moment, i was so taken off guard i just smiled, said "have a good evening!" and left. personally, when someone doesn't just target you for spending money silently, but goes to the next level and vocalizes it to you, as a single girl walking home alone i wouldn't want to incite anyone more. (to follow me, look up my name on the receipt, try to determine where all those bags live, paranoid thoughts). so, i suppose i will just kill her with kindness and keep smiling! she doesn't need to know what i would spend on cars :sunnies
 
wow!! just coming back to this thread, never did i think my pharmacy story would really interest anyone. well, first of all, i went back to pick up a prescription today, and i purposefully swapped my stuff into a black celine bag instead of bringing an hermes bag as an experiment :p nothing was said! so she must not have recognized it. i do know i will be going above and beyond to smile more at her.

thank you for all of the responses ladies :hugs:, i really appreciate everyone validating that it was a little inappropriate. but really what struck me is how observant people are and i am not aware of it. when i am in sweatpants, a northface coat and a parchment B turned in, i figure no one is thinking twice (it isn't like i am running errands in fur and those crazy louboutins i have)

some of the responses given here were very funny! in the moment, i was so taken off guard i just smiled, said "have a good evening!" and left. personally, when someone doesn't just target you for spending money silently, but goes to the next level and vocalizes it to you, as a single girl walking home alone i wouldn't want to incite anyone more. (to follow me, look up my name on the receipt, try to determine where all those bags live, paranoid thoughts). so, i suppose i will just kill her with kindness and keep smiling! she doesn't need to know what i would spend on cars :sunnies

very well said and wise of you my dear :tup:
 
I have to weigh in 'cause this is something I have struggled with for a long time. IMO: 1) Alana should not ask Bonnie what Bonnie paid for something (Alana may not like the answer and then makes Bonnie the BAD guy - it is RUDE to ask some one re: costs. When was the last time someone asked you what your mtg was? Vacation? Jewelry? etc. Investment portfolio? etc.

2) WHERE does it stop? If Alana can not afford something, or chooses to spend HER money in another way that's okay, but I do not believe A gets to dump on B. Why should Bonnie have to tolerate this? B merely made personal choices re: B's life style. A gets to make her personal choices. NOW granted, few of us are equally beautiful, smart, rich, ......blah, blah, blah..............but you have to work hard and play the hand that you have been given. If you don't like that, convince the guy in the Rules Dept. that you are the exception!

3) People can be NASTY and jealous. Case in point my kids hockey gear. I buy my kid the best hockey gear out there. Why? I want to mitigate physical damage. My kid, my biz, but yet my kid gets endlessly razzed about money and how spoiled he is! He has had two hockey sticks compromised - broken. I have heard other similar stories. Why would you want to compromise the safety of someone's gear? What kind of mentality would risk getting caught and possibly arrested? In the same vein why would someone call CPS and report Beyonce for drinking a beer while she had her infants with her? With all of those security guards in her entourage did this really have anything to do with the infant's safety? FYI: CPS has evolved into one of the UGLIEST forms of harrassment out there! So what to do? Be aware. Not preaching, but I have found that living on Wysteria Lane was an experience I was NOT trained for, ......I am a nice girl from up state NY who wore a uniform and went to Catholic school. I guess one could "Just give everyone a tiara and let them all be the Winner(s)?" or, we could just believe "in thine ownself be true" and take responsiblity for our own stuff or lack thereof. sorry for the tome, with best regards to all, Bonnie
 
I have to weigh in 'cause this is something I have struggled with for a long time. IMO: 1) Alana should not ask Bonnie what Bonnie paid for something (Alana may not like the answer and then makes Bonnie the BAD guy - it is RUDE to ask some one re: costs. When was the last time someone asked you what your mtg was? Vacation? Jewelry? etc. Investment portfolio? etc.

2) WHERE does it stop? If Alana can not afford something, or chooses to spend HER money in another way that's okay, but I do not believe A gets to dump on B. Why should Bonnie have to tolerate this? B merely made personal choices re: B's life style. A gets to make her personal choices. NOW granted, few of us are equally beautiful, smart, rich, ......blah, blah, blah..............but you have to work hard and play the hand that you have been given. If you don't like that, convince the guy in the Rules Dept. that you are the exception!

3) People can be NASTY and jealous. Case in point my kids hockey gear. I buy my kid the best hockey gear out there. Why? I want to mitigate physical damage. My kid, my biz, but yet my kid gets endlessly razzed about money and how spoiled he is! He has had two hockey sticks compromised - broken. I have heard other similar stories. Why would you want to compromise the safety of someone's gear? What kind of mentality would risk getting caught and possibly arrested? In the same vein why would someone call CPS and report Beyonce for drinking a beer while she had her infants with her? With all of those security guards in her entourage did this really have anything to do with the infant's safety? FYI: CPS has evolved into one of the UGLIEST forms of harrassment out there! So what to do? Be aware. Not preaching, but I have found that living on Wysteria Lane was an experience I was NOT trained for, ......I am a nice girl from up state NY who wore a uniform and went to Catholic school. I guess one could "Just give everyone a tiara and let them all be the Winner(s)?" or, we could just believe "in thine ownself be true" and take responsiblity for our own stuff or lack thereof. sorry for the tome, with best regards to all, Bonnie

Some people are nasty and jealous--but thankfully most folks I encounter on the streets and in stores, even at work, walk up to me and say "nice bag", or "I want one" or "I wish I could find one." These are perfect strangers to me. And as another poster mentioned, this happens even when I turn the bag toward my body, hiding it's front and brand, am in a NorthFace coat (cold in DC right now!) and sans heels, etc. I'm talking Lanvin or Ferragamo flats which most don't recognize. But that's all good, I get much love from strangers who generally ask me where I got a, b, or c. And usually, I tell them. For me, it's been the folks that I actually consider solid acquaintances or friends that make me pause and shake my head. Two female friends of mine, within a week of each other, said things to me that literally rocked me back, because I consider them solid friends. As a matter of course, i wear a B in the day time, and transfer to a clutch or other "evening"-type bag at night. And in the day, I alternate Bs according to my clothing, shoes, etc. match them with a scarf, add on some gems and viola, I'm ready to face the world. And I like a classic look so everything is understated. So, last month, right before Christmas, when I went to lunch with one of my friends, she said--"You always look like a million bucks but don't you think you spend too much on items?" I just stared at her, speechless. **What I wanted to say was "Hello, I have every retirement vehicle available, including a guaranteed pension, health care paid for in perpetuity, and own my own homes. What??!!" But I didn't say anything and just changed the subject. That got to me because I analyzed it as "does she think I'm silly or stupid--that I'm just blindly buying things or spending on credit or something?? And has she thought this the entire time we have been friends?? For Christmas, I gave her a pair of 18kt coffee bean and emerald earrings that I purchased in Colombia--that nation's two main economic trade engines--she took them, excitedly. But I felt bad. I have not seen or heard from her as yet and, as noted, this happened last month. My other friend and I were on the Hill (she used to work there-since she was 25 yrs old and had worked both the Senate and House side)--and now was quite comfortable in her new highly paid job which leverages her knowledge and contacts therein. Well, we were walking to the trolley in the underground "subway" on the Hill when she told me of some family issues she was dealing with (divorce, etc.) and then blurted out that all of the bags and most of the jewelry I have could, individually, put all three of her children through school (i.e. college). I politely smiled and said nothing but inside I was dying. I just could not believe it. I didn't know if she was trying to be funny or just making some point but it really made me ill. The notion that I was blindly spending money on something I should not be buying because it was too expensive to her was (and is) ridiculous to me. The correlation between a material item and a college education made me feel bad. I really had a moment when I asked "do my friends think I'm dumb, materialistic, or both??" To top all of this off, I had bought her a Burberry jacket and H bracelet for Christmas--which she gladly took! In any case, I have yet to see her as well since this incident. While I don't give up friendships easily, I am somewhat leery about being around either of them. What am I supposed to do--throw out my closet? And I will continue to buy what I want (that won't change) but my relationship with them may....and despite all of this I really do not believe they were being mean or malicious, but I just felt like saying, wow....you should know me by now: People then Possessions.....sheesh.....
 
GenieBottle26 said:
:yes: I agree! Someone that said something that nasty deserves to be messed with a little. When she said "Don't you know you could've purchased a car for that?" I would've smiled sweetly and said, "Of course I know that.... but I don't like buying cheap cars..." and then walked away. (NOT that I think a 40K car is "cheap" but it sounds good to say to a snitty stranger!)

Lol I love this comeback!!!
 
Some people are nasty and jealous--but thankfully most folks I encounter on the streets and in stores, even at work, walk up to me and say "nice bag", or "I want one" or "I wish I could find one." These are perfect strangers to me. And as another poster mentioned, this happens even when I turn the bag toward my body, hiding it's front and brand, am in a NorthFace coat (cold in DC right now!) and sans heels, etc. I'm talking Lanvin or Ferragamo flats which most don't recognize. But that's all good, I get much love from strangers who generally ask me where I got a, b, or c. And usually, I tell them. For me, it's been the folks that I actually consider solid acquaintances or friends that make me pause and shake my head. Two female friends of mine, within a week of each other, said things to me that literally rocked me back, because I consider them solid friends. As a matter of course, i wear a B in the day time, and transfer to a clutch or other "evening"-type bag at night. And in the day, I alternate Bs according to my clothing, shoes, etc. match them with a scarf, add on some gems and viola, I'm ready to face the world. And I like a classic look so everything is understated. So, last month, right before Christmas, when I went to lunch with one of my friends, she said--"You always look like a million bucks but don't you think you spend too much on items?" I just stared at her, speechless. **What I wanted to say was "Hello, I have every retirement vehicle available, including a guaranteed pension, health care paid for in perpetuity, and own my own homes. What??!!" But I didn't say anything and just changed the subject. That got to me because I analyzed it as "does she think I'm silly or stupid--that I'm just blindly buying things or spending on credit or something?? And has she thought this the entire time we have been friends?? For Christmas, I gave her a pair of 18kt coffee bean and emerald earrings that I purchased in Colombia--that nation's two main economic trade engines--she took them, excitedly. But I felt bad. I have not seen or heard from her as yet and, as noted, this happened last month. My other friend and I were on the Hill (she used to work there-since she was 25 yrs old and had worked both the Senate and House side)--and now was quite comfortable in her new highly paid job which leverages her knowledge and contacts therein. Well, we were walking to the trolley in the underground "subway" on the Hill when she told me of some family issues she was dealing with (divorce, etc.) and then blurted out that all of the bags and most of the jewelry I have could, individually, put all three of her children through school (i.e. college). I politely smiled and said nothing but inside I was dying. I just could not believe it. I didn't know if she was trying to be funny or just making some point but it really made me ill. The notion that I was blindly spending money on something I should not be buying because it was too expensive to her was (and is) ridiculous to me. The correlation between a material item and a college education made me feel bad. I really had a moment when I asked "do my friends think I'm dumb, materialistic, or both??" To top all of this off, I had bought her a Burberry jacket and H bracelet for Christmas--which she gladly took! In any case, I have yet to see her as well since this incident. While I don't give up friendships easily, I am somewhat leery about being around either of them. What am I supposed to do--throw out my closet? And I will continue to buy what I want (that won't change) but my relationship with them may....and despite all of this I really do not believe they were being mean or malicious, but I just felt like saying, wow....you should know me by now: People then Possessions.....sheesh.....

Wow, I feel really bad for you. These 2 friends were more than happy to accept expensive and generous gifts and yet they make you feel guilty! I can understand your frustration and I would be re-thinking my friendship with them as now you will not want to carry your lovely things lest they make you feel bad.
 
spit_fire69 said:
Some people are nasty and jealous--but thankfully most folks I encounter on the streets and in stores, even at work, walk up to me and say "nice bag", or "I want one" or "I wish I could find one." These are perfect strangers to me. And as another poster mentioned, this happens even when I turn the bag toward my body, hiding it's front and brand, am in a NorthFace coat (cold in DC right now!) and sans heels, etc. I'm talking Lanvin or Ferragamo flats which most don't recognize. But that's all good, I get much love from strangers who generally ask me where I got a, b, or c. And usually, I tell them. For me, it's been the folks that I actually consider solid acquaintances or friends that make me pause and shake my head. Two female friends of mine, within a week of each other, said things to me that literally rocked me back, because I consider them solid friends. As a matter of course, i wear a B in the day time, and transfer to a clutch or other "evening"-type bag at night. And in the day, I alternate Bs according to my clothing, shoes, etc. match them with a scarf, add on some gems and viola, I'm ready to face the world. And I like a classic look so everything is understated. So, last month, right before Christmas, when I went to lunch with one of my friends, she said--"You always look like a million bucks but don't you think you spend too much on items?" I just stared at her, speechless. **What I wanted to say was "Hello, I have every retirement vehicle available, including a guaranteed pension, health care paid for in perpetuity, and own my own homes. What??!!" But I didn't say anything and just changed the subject. That got to me because I analyzed it as "does she think I'm silly or stupid--that I'm just blindly buying things or spending on credit or something?? And has she thought this the entire time we have been friends?? For Christmas, I gave her a pair of 18kt coffee bean and emerald earrings that I purchased in Colombia--that nation's two main economic trade engines--she took them, excitedly. But I felt bad. I have not seen or heard from her as yet and, as noted, this happened last month. My other friend and I were on the Hill (she used to work there-since she was 25 yrs old and had worked both the Senate and House side)--and now was quite comfortable in her new highly paid job which leverages her knowledge and contacts therein. Well, we were walking to the trolley in the underground "subway" on the Hill when she told me of some family issues she was dealing with (divorce, etc.) and then blurted out that all of the bags and most of the jewelry I have could, individually, put all three of her children through school (i.e. college). I politely smiled and said nothing but inside I was dying. I just could not believe it. I didn't know if she was trying to be funny or just making some point but it really made me ill. The notion that I was blindly spending money on something I should not be buying because it was too expensive to her was (and is) ridiculous to me. The correlation between a material item and a college education made me feel bad. I really had a moment when I asked "do my friends think I'm dumb, materialistic, or both??" To top all of this off, I had bought her a Burberry jacket and H bracelet for Christmas--which she gladly took! In any case, I have yet to see her as well since this incident. While I don't give up friendships easily, I am somewhat leery about being around either of them. What am I supposed to do--throw out my closet? And I will continue to buy what I want (that won't change) but my relationship with them may....and despite all of this I really do not believe they were being mean or malicious, but I just felt like saying, wow....you should know me by now: People then Possessions.....sheesh.....

Oh wow spitfire that's rough. I do feel guilty when in certain places and my mind starts to make comparables but I've never had friends say anything like this.
We are renovating a brownstone and every penny is scrutinized in my mind....,
DH needs new sneakers and to me right now j see that equate to a bathroom lamp!!!

The fact they both accepted your gifts with excitement and have known you years and suddenly this comes from to me that this is a bit odd rather than rude.

Do they know each other? Could they possibly have been discussing the divorce and a flippant comment by o e of them festered in both their minds and that's how it came out? Did the gifting happen before or after the comments?

Maybe they are genuinely concerned about your financial health?


Maybe you need a sit down with both of them to lay it out for them.
1. You were a bit taken aback and hurt by the comments
1. if they Are concerned about you, they don't need to be, financially you are secure.
2. I've they are uncomfortable with how you spend then what's their suggestion?
Can they get past it ?
Limits on gift values?
Less time together?
If they can't get past it then no time together?

Friend 2 clearly has a lit on her mind and was probably projecting her own fears on you and may have no idea what she said or how it could hurt.

Friend 1 was much more direct but also mAy have something going on.... and defy needs to be reminded that such questions are not really appropriate and made you feel really uncomfortable.
 
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