Joseph Duclos Thread
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They don't have the same feel. I do see people taking leather sourcing aspect quite lightly, but I am a perfectionist and the leathers of my bags must also be flawless.
Saddle-stitching heavyweights and especially Hermes have first dibs on the best leathers in the world, they built and developed relations with top tanneries for decades, sometimes even centuries. And leathers do have technologies behind them which are kept secret and subject to intellectual property laws. So no, any tannery cannot simply produce a Barenia dupe and claim it's the same leather.
Another thing which these brands built for decades and centuries is the expertise in ultra high-end leather making, this also includes training craftsmen and perfecting their skills. Yes, in this thread there were suggestions that Joseph Duclos uses some Hermes- and Moynat-trained craftsmen. Hearsay or not, but even if true, by what magic they can make better quality bags at Joseph Duclos than literally 100% of Hermes- and Moynat-trained staff working for these brands as this YouTuber claims?
This looks great on you! Thank you for sharing the photo.
This was fun! It took me a moment. I had to put on my reading glasses.
This was fun! It took me a moment. I had to put on my reading glasses.
Good points, Mousy, thank you.
If I may repeat myself, I dont blindly accept any brand’s claims and certainly not any influencer or YouTuber’s verdict. For that matter, I wouldnt accept the claims of people on a forum like this one unless I have personally done some research and made myself a little more knowledgable, which includes examining the bags, buying and using them personally.
Fatfire, Unless you have personal knowledge of where Joseph Duclos sources their leathers from, how can you claim that its « dupe barenia »?
How can you claim that their make is inferior or who their artisans are?
If you do have specialised knowledge or inside info, I would love to know more.
Thank you so much for asking! I advise you to check what Joseph Duclos writes about themselves, it will answer many questions.
How can we know who is crafting their bags?
Joseph Duclos specifically mentions on their website they looked for people after "Compagnons de Devoir" apprenticeship. Someone also posted rumors about former Hermes and Moynat artisans, please note I am not "claiming" that.
How can we know they are not using Barenia or Novonappa (both trademarks of LWG certified Tanneries Haas)?
Again, the website has only one mention on non-exotic leathers - that JD commits to REACH.
Do you know what REACH is?
It´s a European law banning toxic chemicals in products and it´s mandatory for everyone in the EU.
So the only proud thing to say about the leathers is that they don´t break the law.
I don´t really expect people to acknowledge they fell for promoted content on social media. Please continue to believe in the exceptional quality and craftsmanship of Joseph Duclos bags which is so superior to Hermes and anyone else on the planet, that a lady on Youtube cannot get tired to say so.
Maybe do a bit of research and reading yourself, interviews where Ramesh has specified exactly where he sources his leathers from.Thank you so much for asking! I advise you to check what Joseph Duclos writes about themselves, it will answer many questions.
How can we know who is crafting their bags?
Joseph Duclos specifically mentions on their website they looked for people after "Compagnons de Devoir" apprenticeship. Someone also posted rumors about former Hermes and Moynat artisans, please note I am not "claiming" that.
How can we know they are not using Barenia or Novonappa (both trademarks of LWG certified Tanneries Haas)?
Again, the website has only one mention on non-exotic leathers - that JD commits to REACH.
Do you know what REACH is?
It´s a European law banning toxic chemicals in products and it´s mandatory for everyone in the EU.
So the only proud thing to say about the leathers is that they don´t break the law.
I don´t really expect people to acknowledge they fell for promoted content on social media. Please continue to believe in the exceptional quality and craftsmanship of Joseph Duclos bags which is so superior to Hermes and anyone else on the planet, that a lady on Youtube cannot get tired to say so.
i did a bit of google search for specifics and I’m sharing here a link & screenshot of an deep dive article that appeared more than a year ago in an trade magazine, similar to WWD but for leather . Google translate is big help but already you get the idea on scanning the relevant page.
Le luxe éclairé de la maroquinerie Joseph Duclos - Leather Fashion Design (LFD)
Entretien avec Ramesh Nair, Directeur Artistique de la maison Joseph Duclos, en charge de la nouvelle marque de maroquinerie de luxe éponyme.
leatherfashiondesign.fr
I get that you are not convinced by the brand, thats fine. You’re free to go to Delvaux and Chanel if thats what appeals to you.
Thank you! They are adjustable and could be brought up an inch or so with the strap buckle on the side. It looks longer in the photo as I quickly slung it over my shoulder, but I always wear it crossbody and find it a perfect height (I’m 5’5-5’6 ish). Hope to post more action shots crossbody soon!
Thank you 😊! Yes I am the same! I find if I pack more when I had bigger bags I’d never even use the things I brought. I only bring the essentials now and find it so freeing.
Thank you
Thank you for posting thisMaybe do a bit of research and reading yourself, interviews where Ramesh has specified exactly where he sources his leathers from.
i did a bit of google search for specifics and I’m sharing here a link & screenshot of an deep dive article that appeared more than a year ago in an trade magazine, similar to WWD but for leather . Google translate is big help but already you get the idea on scanning the relevant page.
Le luxe éclairé de la maroquinerie Joseph Duclos - Leather Fashion Design (LFD)
Entretien avec Ramesh Nair, Directeur Artistique de la maison Joseph Duclos, en charge de la nouvelle marque de maroquinerie de luxe éponyme.
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I get that you are not convinced by the brand, thats fine. You’re free to go to Delvaux and Chanel if thats what appeals to you.
I enjoyed muddling around the French vocabulary and learning about the leather.By the way, JD could be Joe Smith. I just see the brand as a springboard for Ramesh.
Well said! And with your receipts to back up your wordsMaybe do a bit of research and reading yourself, interviews where Ramesh has specified exactly where he sources his leathers from.
i did a bit of google search for specifics and I’m sharing here a link & screenshot of an deep dive article that appeared more than a year ago in an trade magazine, similar to WWD but for leather . Google translate is big help but already you get the idea on scanning the relevant page.
Le luxe éclairé de la maroquinerie Joseph Duclos - Leather Fashion Design (LFD)
Entretien avec Ramesh Nair, Directeur Artistique de la maison Joseph Duclos, en charge de la nouvelle marque de maroquinerie de luxe éponyme.
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I get that you are not convinced by the brand, thats fine. You’re free to go to Delvaux and Chanel if thats what appeals to you.
. Love it.
Such strong opinions on this thread lol. TY for defending both sides of the debate. #popcorn
Im just looking forward to visit their boutique and explore their products with my own eyes, hands and nose.
Im just looking forward to visit their boutique and explore their products with my own eyes, hands and nose.
Yes the boutique is amazing, and seeing (and smelling!) the bags in person is essential to understanding what they are about.