Joseph Duclos Thread

[allanrvj]

I hope a couple more designs come out by summer ‘24.

Maybe around autumn, the earliest. Ramesh already said there would be no new models for SS24.

I do hope there would be new leathers, though, that can take in lighter colors. A stiffer version of Swift would be great. Something like Chamonix. Box also takes lighter colors well, so there’s that.

Diane L20s would look great in pop colors.

Vache Naturelle would be a great addition, too.

 

[Mousy]

Maybe around autumn, the earliest. Ramesh already said there would be no new models for SS24.

I do hope there would be new leathers, though, that can take in lighter colors. A stiffer version of Swift would be great. Something like Chamonix. Box also takes lighter colors well, so there’s that.

Diane L20s would look great in pop colors.

Vache Naturelle would be a great addition, too.

Someday, I’d love to see rose gold hardware! That’d be stunning!

 

[textilegirl]

This. 1754 ruins the whole concept of the brand for me. Much more than aggressive adds.
The strategy of using the logo of a tannery (a chemical industry facility) closed 60 years before Delvaux patented the first handbag and somehow making people believe in their "heritage" is just beyond me. Why? If the strategy was to grab the attention by the endless adds and push to an impulsive purchase, then maybe.
But like I said, no reputable source would ever buy this "1754" thing and won´t consider them older than Hermes, Moynat or Delvaux, so I don´t see this brand going anywhere "reputable" in the long term. And that what should be a distinctive trait of high end brands, they care about the reputation more than about the profits.

I think you'll find a few more skeptics earlier in this thread; I don't think very many people outside of the JD communications staff is seriously buying the full-on 'heritage' story. The bigger question for me, once you get past giving the communications staff a hard eye-roll, is what's the quality of the bag in front of you, and is it reasonable to conclude the firm will stand behind its products. I think those of us following this thread are attracted enough to the Ramesh design aesthetic to be interested in pursuing answers to those questions.

 

[FatFIRE]

Hi there - out of curiosity, have you had the chance to actually feel and examine Joseph Duclos’s leathers in person? If not, I’d recommend checking them out before ruling the brand out completely (and no, I’m not being paid LOL). They had a showcase in NYC where I was able to actually feel and interact with the leathers, and I was quite impressed. (I have 1 bag and 1 on the way). The quality was exquisite. Of course, I’m no leather expert, but from my amateur assessment of their leather by comparison to other top line brands, like Delvaux, Moynat, Hermes, etc., they certainly can hang. No pressure or course, but I’d curious your thoughts after seeing them in person. There is also a youtuber, Anesu Segundo, who has made some videos on JD, you might want to check her too, if you fancy.

-Just a lover of quality leather bags

I did see JD bags in person, yes. Well made and fully hand stitched, which is a huge plus. However, I wouldn´t say they are in the same league as the mentioned brands and the prices are way too unreasonable, especially given the emptiness of the heritage, like it was already mentioned here by others. You can literally get bespoke bags from the top artisans made out of top leathers, obviously in better quality for the same or only slightly higher prices.

Yes, I know this youtuber. After she posted that interview at Joseph Duclos all my doubts she´s not doing the promotion for free were gone. Her portrayal of the brand (appeared out of nowhere) is so over the top positive and not a single "shady" aspect about it is mentioned, although she would normally deride any other brand for being creative about the heritage or too active on IG or not transparent about the sourcing or for leathers not being LWG certified etc... Also I know she deletes critical comments about Joseph Duclos under her videos. Don´t ask me how... I unsubscribed, there were also other things I found ridiculous in her "recommendations".

 

[FatFIRE]

I think you'll find a few more skeptics earlier in this thread; I don't think very many people outside of the JD communications staff is seriously buying the full-on 'heritage' story. The bigger question for me, once you get past giving the communications staff a hard eye-roll, is what's the quality of the bag in front of you, and is it reasonable to conclude the firm will stand behind its products. I think those of us following this thread are attracted enough to the Ramesh design aesthetic to be interested in pursuing answers to those questions.

That 1754 thing is everywhere. Even their address in Paris was picked because Saint Honore 54 "echoes the year the manufacture was established" according to the website.
It´s not really a question of buying or not buying the story, not even about the pricing. Luxury is about associating yourself with the brand and I don´t want to be associated with this mess. I found nothing really exceptional in terms of quality and even if you are skeptical or bored with the holy trinity, you can always go artisan and bespoke, nothing beats that.

 

[textilegirl]

That 1754 thing is everywhere. Even their address in Paris was picked because Saint Honore 54 "echoes the year the manufacture was established" according to the website.
It´s not really a question of buying or not buying the story, not even about the pricing. Luxury is about associating yourself with the brand and I don´t want to be associated with this mess. I found nothing really exceptional in terms of quality and even if you are skeptical or bored with the holy trinity, you can always go artisan and bespoke, nothing beats that.

Nope, it does not. For me, luxury is about getting exactly what I want in a world where compromises are an essential way of life. I don't really care what they say if the bag meets my expectations and needs. I've not seen any of the Duclos offerings in person but I'm interested to learn more.

I don't know whether there's a thread already in this part of tPF but something entitled "if you are skeptical or bored with the holy trinity here are some suggestions" could be an interesting read.

 

[Purseperson420]

St Clair clutch in action! I love this bag so much

 

[ktbagshaw]

I think you'll find a few more skeptics earlier in this thread; I don't think very many people outside of the JD communications staff is seriously buying the full-on 'heritage' story. The bigger question for me, once you get past giving the communications staff a hard eye-roll, is what's the quality of the bag in front of you, and is it reasonable to conclude the firm will stand behind its products. I think those of us following this thread are attracted enough to the Ramesh design aesthetic to be interested in pursuing answers to those questions.

Well said! 😊

 

[ktbagshaw]

Hi there - out of curiosity, have you had the chance to actually feel and examine Joseph Duclos’s leathers in person? If not, I’d recommend checking them out before ruling the brand out completely (and no, I’m not being paid LOL). They had a showcase in NYC where I was able to actually feel and interact with the leathers, and I was quite impressed. (I have 1 bag and 1 on the way). The quality was exquisite. Of course, I’m no leather expert, but from my amateur assessment of their leather by comparison to other top line brands, like Delvaux, Moynat, Hermes, etc., they certainly can hang. No pressure or course, but I’d curious your thoughts after seeing them in person. There is also a youtuber, Anesu Segundo, who has made some videos on JD, you might want to check her too, if you fancy.

-Just a lover of quality leather bags

You are so right about JD and the lack of resale ability. I checked eBay and a couple of other google locations and nothing showed up for pre-loved JD bags. Makes me love them just a little bit more.

Hi there - out of curiosity, have you had the chance to actually feel and examine Joseph Duclos’s leathers in person? If not, I’d recommend checking them out before ruling the brand out completely (and no, I’m not being paid LOL). They had a showcase in NYC where I was able to actually feel and interact with the leathers, and I was quite impressed. (I have 1 bag and 1 on the way). The quality was exquisite. Of course, I’m no leather expert, but from my amateur assessment of their leather by comparison to other top line brands, like Delvaux, Moynat, Hermes, etc., they certainly can hang. No pressure or course, but I’d curious your thoughts after seeing them in person. There is also a youtuber, Anesu Segundo, who has made some videos on JD, you might want to check her too, if you fancy.

-Just a lover of quality leather bags

Yes, I agree & highly recommend viewing Anesu’s videos! She can be found searching SoAnesu
This is actually how I stumbled upon JD! I just can’t do Hermes. It’s almost embarrassing to me (but that’s just me & will keep it to myself. I have a Diane crossbody & several straps that are beyond beautiful & amazing! So fun to mix & match with other bags too!

 

[youngwriter16]

I did see JD bags in person, yes. Well made and fully hand stitched, which is a huge plus. However, I wouldn´t say they are in the same league as the mentioned brands and the prices are way too unreasonable, especially given the emptiness of the heritage, like it was already mentioned here by others. You can literally get bespoke bags from the top artisans made out of top leathers, obviously in better quality for the same or only slightly higher prices.

Yes, I know this youtuber. After she posted that interview at Joseph Duclos all my doubts she´s not doing the promotion for free were gone. Her portrayal of the brand (appeared out of nowhere) is so over the top positive and not a single "shady" aspect about it is mentioned, although she would normally deride any other brand for being creative about the heritage or too active on IG or not transparent about the sourcing or for leathers not being LWG certified etc... Also I know she deletes critical comments about Joseph Duclos under her videos. Don´t ask me how... I unsubscribed, there were also other things I found ridiculous in her "recommendations".

Very interesting perspective. My only follow-up is what, in your opinion, makes JD not in the same league as the other brands we mentioned (putting aside the heritage aspect).

On the YouTuber, that is news to me. I had no idea, interesting if true.

 

[goodatlife]

St Clair clutch in action! I love this bag so much
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Pretty! Are the strap’s adjustable? I’m 5’2, the straps look pretty long..

 

[crocodilemonkey]

St Clair clutch in action! I love this bag so much
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This little bag is adorable. I’m really getting into smaller bags these days, I walk a lot and find it very tiring to have a large bag to carry around. It forces me to be very selective about what I carry, which is a mixed blessing !

 

[Sola_88]

Yes, I agree & highly recommend viewing Anesu’s videos! She can be found searching SoAnesu

I find that all YouTubers are best ignored when it comes to handbags. Most pretend to be an expert when all they are doing is reading details taken from a public website. Then they all say the same thing - the bags they own are the best. The only way I can stomach the videos is on mute. I appreciate the pictures and videos of the bags, but have zero interest in what they're saying.

 

[FatFIRE]

Yes, I agree & highly recommend viewing Anesu’s videos! She can be found searching SoAnesu
This is actually how I stumbled upon JD! I just can’t do Hermes. It’s almost embarrassing to me (but that’s just me & will keep it to myself. I have a Diane crossbody & several straps that are beyond beautiful & amazing! So fun to mix & match with other bags too!

I wouldn't trust influencers on the internet with such a laudatory "stance" on new brands, especially if the brand invests so heavily into various promotions on the Internet as JD does. This content is not created for free. Every brand has positive and negative sides, hiding the negatives means the message is simply not trustworthy.

 

[Mousy]

I did see JD bags in person, yes. Well made and fully hand stitched, which is a huge plus. However, I wouldn´t say they are in the same league as the mentioned brands and the prices are way too unreasonable, especially given the emptiness of the heritage, like it was already mentioned here by others. You can literally get bespoke bags from the top artisans made out of top leathers, obviously in better quality for the same or only slightly higher prices.

Yes, I know this youtuber. After she posted that interview at Joseph Duclos all my doubts she´s not doing the promotion for free were gone. Her portrayal of the brand (appeared out of nowhere) is so over the top positive and not a single "shady" aspect about it is mentioned, although she would normally deride any other brand for being creative about the heritage or too active on IG or not transparent about the sourcing or for leathers not being LWG certified etc... Also I know she deletes critical comments about Joseph Duclos under her videos. Don´t ask me how... I unsubscribed, there were also other things I found ridiculous in her "recommendations".

I’ve kept quiet until now, but I need to know what you “know” about Anesu “not doing the promotion for free”? What compensation has she received?
And what “shady” aspects should she have mentioned? “Shady” is a loaded term. Do you mean the 1754 inspiration date? Is there more factually substantiated “shade”?
And their address? They chose it because it’s 54? It “echoes” the year. Yes. But there are other reasons including the street’s history and neighboring shops.
By the way, 1754 is a nod to leather — the tanning — not bag-making. Joseph Duclos wasn’t a bag maker.
I thought the Diane reminded me of a Celine until I understood the extra strip of leather reinforced the flap and hardware placement. And it helps to keep the curved shape. Many brands reinforce their flaps. JD didn’t copy Celine.
I thought the bags were pricey — too pricey for a new brand. I don’t think that anymore. They’re hand-made. They’re bespoke (for those who are willing to wait). Even Peter Nitz occasionally has pre-made bags available on his site.
As for larger brands, like H—they’ve had their problems. Do you remember the stinky leather fiasco? Chipped Kelly hardware (the tip of the little knob turn-lock)?

As for your new posts — Delvaux is nice, but has been sold, resold, and sold again. They’re no longer a boutique brand. “And Chanel …” in the words of my 20-year-old daughter, “is Forever 21 with a pricetag.”

That’s it. I’ve written all I need to convey. Thank you for reading.

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