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Mousy said:
The price increase.:whut:

Do the bags now include tax, customs, same day shipping, and on-call security who will walk behind me carrying my new JD bag?

Geeeeez! I’m getting old.
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Not getting old! Just pragmatic.

I continue to recommend just buying a plane ticket and spending a few days in Paris. The cost of the bag will be significantly less (and reduced further with detaxe) and will melt into a vacation memory.
 
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While there have been discussions around increased USD prices, I was just informed about an upcoming price increase by HQ on February 1st. I am in Europe, so € will be impacted. Not sure this will have implications on USD conversions again. I was not informed about the percentage increase but will follow up.
 
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Mousy said:
The price increase.:whut:

Do the bags now include tax, customs, same day shipping, and on-call security who will walk behind me carrying my new JD bag?

Geeeeez! I’m getting old.
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Hi there! I own a Diane bag and purchased it when they did a trade show in LA back in early 2024. Thank goodness because now on their website, the prices increased for US purchases this month. Why? What JD did is priced the US portal to include taxes and duties! If you go to the France portal and calculate the bag selling in France using EURO, do the the conversion rate as of today in USD, it should land around $7400 USD, give or take. Adding my sales taxes and duties rounding to the highest rates to compare (for the highest price they should not go over), I should only pay around $8,200 USD, the most they JD should be charging for a sale in my area in Kansas City, MO. However, the bag is charging $9,400, on the USD portal ! This is crazy overcharging! A month ago, when JD separated the taxes and duties from bag price, They priced it at $8,300, WITH the taxes and duties! Even this price was overcharging my sales tax incorretly.
Funny thing, a month ago or so, when I contacted JD about the tax rate incorrectly being charged in my area, I asked them if they were actually registered in my state to collect sales taxes or using a third party service company to collect the sales taxes. I asked this because even back months ago, their website was overcharging taxes and duties by over $400-500. It is not about the amount but the moral obligation to collect faithfully accurately from their customers. I may be a pain about this stuff I refuse to purchase when being overcharged and JD could or would not provide any good explanation around my question. So no further purchases from me unless I visit the store in France, maybe. It is just bad practice or JD simply should not do business in the USA. Now, their scheme is even worse because the taxes and duties are lumped into the price and I would be overcharged by $1,100+ over the proper collection of the bag including sales tax and duties. How do you attempt to explain to the state or importer (shipping company), taxes were already paid if JD is now lumping the sales tax and duties in one pricing scheme.
 
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cerler said:
Hi there! I own a Diane bag and purchased it when they did a trade show in LA back in early 2024. Thank goodness because now on their website, the prices increased for US purchases this month. Why? What JD did is priced the US portal to include taxes and duties! If you go to the France portal and calculate the bag selling in France using EURO, do the the conversion rate as of today in USD, it should land around $7400 USD, give or take. Adding my sales taxes and duties rounding to the highest rates to compare (for the highest price they should not go over), I should only pay around $8,200 USD, the most they JD should be charging for a sale in my area in Kansas City, MO. However, the bag is charging $9,400, on the USD portal ! This is crazy overcharging! A month ago, when JD separated the taxes and duties from bag price, They priced it at $8,300, WITH the taxes and duties! Even this price was overcharging my sales tax incorretly.
Funny thing, a month ago or so, when I contacted JD about the tax rate incorrectly being charged in my area, I asked them if they were actually registered in my state to collect sales taxes or using a third party service company to collect the sales taxes. I asked this because even back months ago, their website was overcharging taxes and duties by over $400-500. It is not about the amount but the moral obligation to collect faithfully accurately from their customers. I may be a pain about this stuff I refuse to purchase when being overcharged and JD could or would not provide any good explanation around my question. So no further purchases from me unless I visit the store in France, maybe. It is just bad practice or JD simply should not do business in the USA. Now, their scheme is even worse because the taxes and duties are lumped into the price and I would be overcharged by $1,100+ over the proper collection of the bag including sales tax and duties. How do you attempt to explain to the state or importer (shipping company), taxes were already paid if JD is now lumping the sales tax and duties in one pricing scheme.
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Buy the bag in France. Problem solved.
 
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cerler said:
Hi there! I own a Diane bag and purchased it when they did a trade show in LA back in early 2024. Thank goodness because now on their website, the prices increased for US purchases this month. Why? What JD did is priced the US portal to include taxes and duties! If you go to the France portal and calculate the bag selling in France using EURO, do the the conversion rate as of today in USD, it should land around $7400 USD, give or take. Adding my sales taxes and duties rounding to the highest rates to compare (for the highest price they should not go over), I should only pay around $8,200 USD, the most they JD should be charging for a sale in my area in Kansas City, MO. However, the bag is charging $9,400, on the USD portal ! This is crazy overcharging! A month ago, when JD separated the taxes and duties from bag price, They priced it at $8,300, WITH the taxes and duties! Even this price was overcharging my sales tax incorretly.
Funny thing, a month ago or so, when I contacted JD about the tax rate incorrectly being charged in my area, I asked them if they were actually registered in my state to collect sales taxes or using a third party service company to collect the sales taxes. I asked this because even back months ago, their website was overcharging taxes and duties by over $400-500. It is not about the amount but the moral obligation to collect faithfully accurately from their customers. I may be a pain about this stuff I refuse to purchase when being overcharged and JD could or would not provide any good explanation around my question. So no further purchases from me unless I visit the store in France, maybe. It is just bad practice or JD simply should not do business in the USA. Now, their scheme is even worse because the taxes and duties are lumped into the price and I would be overcharged by $1,100+ over the proper collection of the bag including sales tax and duties. How do you attempt to explain to the state or importer (shipping company), taxes were already paid if JD is now lumping the sales tax and duties in one pricing scheme.
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Oof, I guess I never thought to check if the tax/duties were accurate when I did my online order back in 2023! I just assumed it was all correct. Just checked, and assuming a duty rate of 9% per the Harmonized Tariff Schedule and a 7.75% tax rate for my area of California, my cost was correct, so that's good at least.

The lingering issue now is that if an American buys a bag online and the price includes duties and taxes upfront, these charges should vary based on the bag's materials and the buyer's local tax rate. A fixed price can't accurately reflect such variable factors across different regions. Perturbing.
 
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cerler said:
Hi there! I own a Diane bag and purchased it when they did a trade show in LA back in early 2024. Thank goodness because now on their website, the prices increased for US purchases this month. Why? What JD did is priced the US portal to include taxes and duties! If you go to the France portal and calculate the bag selling in France using EURO, do the the conversion rate as of today in USD, it should land around $7400 USD, give or take. Adding my sales taxes and duties rounding to the highest rates to compare (for the highest price they should not go over), I should only pay around $8,200 USD, the most they JD should be charging for a sale in my area in Kansas City, MO. However, the bag is charging $9,400, on the USD portal ! This is crazy overcharging! A month ago, when JD separated the taxes and duties from bag price, They priced it at $8,300, WITH the taxes and duties! Even this price was overcharging my sales tax incorretly.
Funny thing, a month ago or so, when I contacted JD about the tax rate incorrectly being charged in my area, I asked them if they were actually registered in my state to collect sales taxes or using a third party service company to collect the sales taxes. I asked this because even back months ago, their website was overcharging taxes and duties by over $400-500. It is not about the amount but the moral obligation to collect faithfully accurately from their customers. I may be a pain about this stuff I refuse to purchase when being overcharged and JD could or would not provide any good explanation around my question. So no further purchases from me unless I visit the store in France, maybe. It is just bad practice or JD simply should not do business in the USA. Now, their scheme is even worse because the taxes and duties are lumped into the price and I would be overcharged by $1,100+ over the proper collection of the bag including sales tax and duties. How do you attempt to explain to the state or importer (shipping company), taxes were already paid if JD is now lumping the sales tax and duties in one pricing scheme.
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Thank you for this post. The off pricing (incorrect taxes) makes sense now. I wonder if this is one reason why US clients are required to prove their parcel’s taxes and fees have been paid. I will be buying at the store.
 
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lurketylurk said:
Oh. My. Word. If anyone gets tired of their JD bag, do NOT send it to TRR for consignment! They clearly have no idea how much these bags cost. I just saw this "sold" listing on the site - they sold a brand new Fontelie for $225 :amazed:
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The consignor clearly wasn't paying attention if that went through. Agreed that it can be a disaster to use them (for a plethora of reasons discussed on the TRR thread).
 
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lurketylurk said:
Oh. My. Word. If anyone gets tired of their JD bag, do NOT send it to TRR for consignment! They clearly have no idea how much these bags cost. I just saw this "sold" listing on the site - they sold a brand new Fontelie for $225 :amazed:
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It’s crazy. I’ve seen a handful of Joseph Duclos bags on TRR over the last 6 months or so. I was thinking someone might have been unloading leftover inventory from the US trunk shows since they looked to be new. Whatever it is, it’s crazy.

They had a Saint Claire messenger bag for $285 not that long ago. I wonder which number out of 10 that particular one was. That bag is $6150 on the US website.


Or a passamenterie strap for $85???


Most recently though they had a Diane that sold for over $4k, so maybe someone finally clued TRR in.

Crazy to think you could get a JD bag for the cost of Michael Kors!
 
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hillsidegirl said:
It’s crazy. I’ve seen a handful of Joseph Duclos bags on TRR over the last 6 months or so. I was thinking someone might have been unloading leftover inventory from the US trunk shows since they looked to be new. Whatever it is, it’s crazy.

They had a Saint Claire messenger bag for $285 not that long ago. I wonder which number out of 10 that particular one was. That bag is $6150 on the US website.


Or a passamenterie strap for $85???


Most recently though they had a Diane that sold for over $4k, so maybe someone finally clued TRR in.

Crazy to think you could get a JD bag for the cost of Michael Kors!
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the $285 Saint Claire bag is even one of the "limited and numbered" editions

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A bottle of Red said:
Wonder how this happened, did the person sending the bag not know what they had, or were they lowballed and desperate to sell at any price?
Or is Jd not well known enough to command a higher price on the second hand market?
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Well I think it’s safe to assume that TRR is not familiar with the brand (or at least they weren’t when these items were sold). This is pure speculation on my part but I have a few theories:

1. CLUELESS SELLER: I know that celebrities and other wealthy folks often give their “used” clothes, shoes and bags to their personal assistants after just one or two wears (if even) and sometimes those assistants earn a little extra cash by selling or consigning the items. Many consider it a perk of an otherwise often thankless, relatively low paying, sometimes 24 hour a day job. So perhaps an assistant consigned the bag not knowing what he or she actually had.

2. INDIFFERENT SELLER: Perhaps a handful of pieces were leftover from the LA trade show and whomever was holding the inventory just wanted to be rid of it. I do not think there are any agreements in place with retailers to sell JD merchandise so the only option would be to host another trade show or drop the inventory with a reseller.

3. BURNED SELLER: The poor owner might have sent the bag to TRR for evaluation and consignment and the bag was listed and sold before the seller was even aware of the offer price - I don’t think TRR gives much time for the seller to reject their pricing. I’ve heard horror stories about this - ex. A $20,000 exotic bag being listed as “embossed leather” and sold for next to nothing. It is my understanding that TRR tends to honor the sale in these situations, assuming they adhered to their consignment policy.

I really hope these items were just leftovers from the trade show and consignment pricing was not a concern for whatever reason. And I also hope the new owners of these JD gems appreciate and treasure their fabulous purchases and know just how lucky they are!
 
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