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#11,989
katev said:
Does anyone know what Coach's color code CMD means? I am currently carrying my huge (but much loved!) Bleecker Preston bag with silver hardware and sunglow and white stripes. The Coach product code is 30173 SV CMD. I bought it in late summer 2015 but it was released in Spring or Summer 2014. I'm just curious about the translation for CMD - thanks!
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Guess what? My curiosity got the best of me and I called Coach Customer Service and asked the meaning of color code CMD - hard to believe but CMD stand for "sunglow and white" - now who would have guessed that one?!

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#11,994
PrairieDawn said:
While browsing the Coach section on eBay, I came across this bag. http://r.ebay.com/1LZNRc It looks legit from the outside until I look at the inside. Did Coach ever make a lining like that?
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whateve said:
No. That bag is fake.
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The authentic version of the bag that fake is trying to copy is 9763 and is one of the exceptions to the signature lining rule. Although there are signature polka dots on the outside, the bag has signature lining. (But it's not the tacky thin gold rayon mini sig lining!)
 
#11,995
BeenBurned said:
The authentic version of the bag that fake is trying to copy is 9763 and is one of the exceptions to the signature lining rule. Although there are signature polka dots on the outside, the bag has signature lining. (But it's not the tacky thin gold rayon mini sig lining!)
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The lining isn't the typical fake stuff I find on the counterfeits that's why I was wondering. I see another Coach 3678 that looks similar although it has a trigger snap instead of a zip up closure.
 
#11,996
PrairieDawn said:
The lining isn't the typical fake stuff I find on the counterfeits that's why I was wondering. I see another Coach 3678 that looks similar although it has a trigger snap instead of a zip up closure.
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The listing has been removed so I can't see the lining, but if it was the "thin gold rayon mini Sig lining" that BeenBurned mentioned, that lining is ALWAYS fake. It really IS the typical fake stuff used in thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of fakes in the last 15 years, whether it's gold, black or brown shiny fabric. Coach has NEVER used that lining in any of its bags, and never AFAIK used ANY mini-Sig lining in their handbags. They did use a high-quality woven jacquard lining but it had a standard-size C pattern rather than a Mini. Here's just one example of the fake lining in one of several available colors.

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Style 9763 is unusual in the Dot line because it has a solid color lining. Most of the Dot bags had the jacquard Signature C lining, like the one below.from the Dot Demi, style 3677.

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#11,998
PrairieDawn said:
While browsing the Coach section on eBay, I came across this bag. http://r.ebay.com/1LZNRc It looks legit from the outside until I look at the inside. Did Coach ever make a lining like that?
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BeenBurned said:
The authentic version of the bag that fake is trying to copy is 9763 and is one of the exceptions to the signature lining rule. Although there are signature polka dots on the outside, the bag has signature lining. (But it's not the tacky thin gold rayon mini sig lining!)
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PrairieDawn said:
The lining isn't the typical fake stuff I find on the counterfeits that's why I was wondering. I see another Coach 3678 that looks similar although it has a trigger snap instead of a zip up closure.
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Hyacinth said:
The listing has been removed so I can't see the lining, but if it was the "thin gold rayon mini Sig lining" that BeenBurned mentioned, that lining is ALWAYS fake. It really IS the typical fake stuff used in thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of fakes in the last 15 years, whether it's gold, black or brown shiny fabric. Coach has NEVER used that lining in any of its bags, and never AFAIK used ANY mini-Sig lining in their handbags. They did use a high-quality woven jacquard lining but it had a standard-size C pattern rather than a Mini. Here's just one example of the fake lining in one of several available colors.

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Style 9763 is unusual in the Dot line because it has a solid color lining. Most of the Dot bags had the jacquard Signature C lining, like the one below.from the Dot Demi, style 3677.

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Oops, my bad re the style number. When I referred to the exception to the rule, I was thinking of the dot bags with signature lining.

As for the listing in question, it didn't have the tacky gold lining as most fakes do. And I suspect that's what @PrairieDawn was referring to.

I was able to pull up a cache of the listing and will post pictures so that when the cache poofs, the lining/creed picture will still be there.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...152582616671?_ul=PR+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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#11,999
BeenBurned said:
Oops, my bad re the style number. When I referred to the exception to the rule, I was thinking of the dot bags with signature lining.

As for the listing in question, it didn't have the tacky gold lining as most fakes do. And I suspect that's what @PrairieDawn was referring to.

I was able to pull up a cache of the listing and will post pictures so that when the cache poofs, the lining/creed picture will still be there.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5aPQHvJVCKYJ:www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-COACH-WHITE-MULTICOLOR-POLKA-DOT-LARGE-TOTE-BAG-PURSE-SCARF-/152582616671?_ul=PR+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Thanks!

And YUCK !!! Were the counterfeiters too cheap to spend a few yuan more on a fake lining that actually looked like it was made by Coach?

Ooooo, and another always-fake K4H- serial prefix for my collection - thank you! :flowers:
 
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