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This isn't a Coach, right?
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/172722463739

The proportions of the creed and serial number aren't right, the backs of the turnlocks aren't right either, they should have 4 simple prongs if it was made before 1996 or the rounded rectangular turnlocks if it was made after since it would be classified as a briefcase based on the size. The untrimmed flap edges aren't right, the leather looks thin and cheap and shows sharp lines instead of smooth curves where it bends, the font of the Coach stamp on the front is what's being used in current bag styles and only goes back a few years. It wouldn't have been found on anything even close to vintage.

Here's the best pic I can get of the creed and serial number, see how small the Coach logo is compared to how much larger it is in all genuine bags and briefcases.

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Thank you for confirming my guess! Never ran into a fake like this one! It's not even trying to copy anything COACH made, is it?

This certainly is interesting! As the rest of you were, I too was fairly certain that this bag was fake.

But the seller has posted a couple more pictures including a legible creed and I believe this IS an authentic Coach bag. (Fugly, yes, but authentic!)
Style 70861 -- called legal large messenger as per a tag from a different listing.
coach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase 2012 back turnlock liamcronan.jpeg coach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase creed liamcronan.jpeg

Here's another listing with better pictures, including a tag and a better picture of the Coach logo on the front flap. Pictures courtesy of matter1201 authentic listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-NWT-7...048799?hash=item283521071f:g:yf8AAOSw0e9UsciL
coach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase 2012 back turnlock tag.jpeg
coach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase 2012 back turnlock 2.jpeg coach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase 2012 back turnlock creed 3.jpeg coach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase 2012 front.jpegcoach 70861 2012 4-turnlocks briefcase 2012 back turnlock creed 2.jpeg
 
This certainly is interesting! As the rest of you were, I too was fairly certain that this bag was fake.

But the seller has posted a couple more pictures including a legible creed and I believe this IS an authentic Coach bag. (Fugly, yes, but authentic!)
Style 70861 -- called legal large messenger as per a tag from a different listing.
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Here's another listing with better pictures, including a tag and a better picture of the Coach logo on the front flap. Pictures courtesy of matter1201 authentic listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-NWT-7...048799?hash=item283521071f:g:yf8AAOSw0e9UsciL
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[emoji33] oh wow! I have to say the black one does not show excellent craftsmanship at all. It's sad when an authentic bag looks fake. In the other listing, however, the bag looks great!
 
This certainly is interesting! As the rest of you were, I too was fairly certain that this bag was fake.

But the seller has posted a couple more pictures including a legible creed and I believe this IS an authentic Coach bag. (Fugly, yes, but authentic!)
Style 70861 -- called legal large messenger as per a tag from a different listing.
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Here's another listing with better pictures, including a tag and a better picture of the Coach logo on the front flap. Pictures courtesy of matter1201 authentic listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-NWT-7...048799?hash=item283521071f:g:yf8AAOSw0e9UsciL
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[emoji33] oh wow! I have to say the black one does not show excellent craftsmanship at all. It's sad when an authentic bag looks fake. In the other listing, however, the bag looks great!

My mistake.

And yes, the quality of the first briefcase at least the way the photos showed it didn't look like a genuine Coach, and the unreadable creed photo didn't help matters either.
 
You almost need a microscope to recognise it but here's a thumbnail of the catalog listing from Holiday 1991, the size of the type gives you an idea how tiny the original photo was:

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Wow I really didn't see it at first! I guess I'll pass given it's almost twice what it retailed for. Is this a very rare or limited production piece or do you think I could find one later?
 
This certainly is interesting! As the rest of you were, I too was fairly certain that this bag was fake.

But the seller has posted a couple more pictures including a legible creed and I believe this IS an authentic Coach bag. (Fugly, yes, but authentic!)
Style 70861 -- called legal large messenger as per a tag from a different listing.
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Here's another listing with better pictures, including a tag and a better picture of the Coach logo on the front flap. Pictures courtesy of matter1201 authentic listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-NWT-7...048799?hash=item283521071f:g:yf8AAOSw0e9UsciL
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Sorry Coach but I agree with you .... this is one ugly bag!
 
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