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[katev]

Does anyone know if the Bridle Satchel bag 6707, that was made in Italy in 1998-99, originally came with a hangtag?

I've just purchased one in mahogany and brass that has been authenticated by @Hyacinth (thanks again!) It doesn't have a hangtag but some examples of this bag that I find online do have hangtags, like this one on Etsy at the link below that has a vintage Gramercy-style metal hangtag:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/103612...le-italy-shades-of?ref=shop_home_recs_1&cns=1

Recently @Lake Effect posted these catalog photos and descriptions of the bag and it doesn't look like there's a hangtag, but I'm not sure because the photos in the 1999 Preview Catalog are dark; and the much lighter photos from the 1998 Holiday Catalog look like there's no hangtag, yet at least one of the other Bridle bags on the page does have Gramercy-style metal hangtags.

Also, the Sample or Pilot Bridle Satchel-like bag that was recently acquired by @Busykitty has a leather hangtag - but you can expect variations with a pilot bag, see: https://www.etsy.com/listing/103612...le-italy-shades-of?ref=shop_home_recs_1&cns=1

Or is it possible that they altered the style in mid-production so that some of them had hangtags but others didn't? I'd greatly appreciate your insights, thanks!

 

[Busykitty]

Hello all! I have this tote I just came across, but I can’t find any information on it. Does anyone know what it’s called? 13 x 13.5 x 3”. Thanks in advance!!

 

[katev]

Hello all! I have this tote I just came across, but I can’t find any information on it. Does anyone know what it’s called? 13 x 13.5 x 3”. Thanks in advance!!
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This similar, smaller bag is listed as a Bleecker style on ebay but I don't know if that's correct:

Coach Black Bleecker Pearlized Nappa Leather Small Tote Made In Italy 6152 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Coach Black Bleecker Pearlized Nappa Leather Small Tote Made In Italy 6152 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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[Hyacinth]

This similar, smaller bag is listed as a Bleecker style on ebay:

Coach Black Bleecker Pearlized Nappa Leather Small Tote Made In Italy 6152 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Coach Black Bleecker Pearlized Nappa Leather Small Tote Made In Italy 6152 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

They have different details though, at least for the Coach logo on the front. The 6105 "COACH" name is actually cut out, while the 6151 is stamped. There's also a style 6104 measuring about 11x8x4 with a cut-out COACH on the front. We never found any details for those two. 6151 and 6152 are in the big Holiday 1999 catalog (the one with "Eddie" and his pups on the cover) as Pearlized Bleecker Demi Zip and Pearlized Bleecker Bag respectively and are much smaller than the bags with the cutouts, 9x5 and 6x7 inches.

The 6104 and 6105 styles aren't in the book but look more like "paper shopping bag" styles, and I don't think they were part of those pearlized styles. We've seen them before, that cut-out Coach name seems to be unique. I don't think the big ones were considered Bleeckers but that's just a guess. The date codes are also almost 18 months apart.

Here's a 6104 with the cutout, date code is February 1998:





and the 2 Pearlized Bleecker style that were in the Holiday 1999 book:

6151




6152






ETA - there was a 6104 we authenticated last June

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and I'm sure we had a previous discussion about that cut out style but we never found any real details. Discussions go back to 2014.

ETA -

AUTHENTICATE this COACH!

Morning all, Please have a look at this seller. She writes that this bag is in amazing shape for a bag from the 1960s.. with the creed J8Y, so either a PATRICIA from 1998 or one of those questionable J8Y prefixes. most of her bags are 1990s, which she writes are Vintage Bonnie Cashins 1960s..I...

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and from a week earlier, there are several posts over 2 days:

AUTHENTICATE this COACH!

It's lovely and is in on my covet list. If I get this, I will have two, one is navy and now a BT. They are great purses, the shape, the weight, the way the zip opens all the way around so everything is visible. Plus the straps are long enough to wear on the shoulder but not too long to carry...

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plus posts 323, 325, 328, 331 and 348. No pictures though.

 

[Busykitty]

They have different details though, at least for the Coach logo on the front. The 6105 "COACH" name is actually cut out, while the 6151 is stamped. There's also a style 6104 measuring about 11x8x4 with a cut-out COACH on the front. We never found any details for those two. 6151 and 6152 are in the big Holiday 1999 catalog (the one with "Eddie" and his pups on the cover) as Pearlized Bleecker Demi Zip and Pearlized Bleecker Bag respectively and are much smaller than the bags with the cutouts, 9x5 and 6x7 inches.

The 6104 and 6105 styles aren't in the book but look more like "paper shopping bag" styles, and I don't think they were part of those pearlized styles. We've seen them before, that cut-out Coach name seems to be unique. I don't think the big ones were considered Bleeckers but that's just a guess. The date codes are also almost 18 months apart.

Here's a 6104 with the cutout, date code is February 1998:
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and the 2 Pearlized Bleecker style that were in the Holiday 1999 book:

6151
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6152
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ETA - there was a 6104 we authenticated last June

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...

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and I'm sure we had a previous discussion about that cut out style but we never found any real details.

This tote is not pearlized and according to the creed is made from French calf vs. cowhide. Could it have been a pilot type bag?

 

[katev]

They have different details though, at least for the Coach logo on the front. The 6105 "COACH" name is actually cut out, while the 6151 is stamped. There's also a style 6104 measuring about 11x8x4 with a cut-out COACH on the front. We never found any details for those two. 6151 and 6152 are in the big Holiday 1999 catalog (the one with "Eddie" and his pups on the cover) as Pearlized Bleecker Demi Zip and Pearlized Bleecker Bag respectively and are much smaller than the bags with the cutouts, 9x5 and 6x7 inches.

The 6104 and 6105 styles aren't in the book but look more like "paper shopping bag" styles, and I don't think they were part of those pearlized styles. We've seen them before, that cut-out Coach name seems to be unique. I don't think the big ones were considered Bleeckers but that's just a guess. The date codes are also almost 18 months apart.

Here's a 6104 with the cutout, date code is February 1998:
View attachment 5153156

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and the 2 Pearlized Bleecker style that were in the Holiday 1999 book:

6151
View attachment 5153160

View attachment 5153161

6152
View attachment 5153162
View attachment 5153163

View attachment 5153164


ETA - there was a 6104 we authenticated last June

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...

forum.purseblog.com

and I'm sure we had a previous discussion about that cut out style but we never found any real details. Discussions go back to 2014.

ETA -

AUTHENTICATE this COACH!

Morning all, Please have a look at this seller. She writes that this bag is in amazing shape for a bag from the 1960s.. with the creed J8Y, so either a PATRICIA from 1998 or one of those questionable J8Y prefixes. most of her bags are 1990s, which she writes are Vintage Bonnie Cashins 1960s..I...

forum.purseblog.com

and from a week earlier, there are several posts over 2 days:

AUTHENTICATE this COACH!

It's lovely and is in on my covet list. If I get this, I will have two, one is navy and now a BT. They are great purses, the shape, the weight, the way the zip opens all the way around so everything is visible. Plus the straps are long enough to wear on the shoulder but not too long to carry...

forum.purseblog.com

plus posts 323, 325, 328, 331 and 348. No pictures though.

This tote is not pearlized and according to the creed is made from French calf vs. cowhide. Could it have been a pilot type bag?

Here's a 1997 Italian Coach bag made of French Calfskin and the seller says that it is part of the "Manhattan Collection" but the style and logo are very different from the mystery bag.

Vintage Coach Calfskin Manhattan Collection Tote

Shop pdx_monkey's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. A rare, unnamed chocolate brown tote from Coach’s Italian crafted 1997 Manhattan Collection, this small but mighty bag is made from French calfskin. It features a plastic zip closure...

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[Hyacinth]

This tote is not pearlized and according to the creed is made from French calf vs. cowhide. Could it have been a pilot type bag?

That's always possible. Pilot bags weren't marked by Coach with the letter P after the serial number until some time around 2005-06 when Coach moved from 4-digit to 5-digit style numbers and also expanded the serial number production codes.

All the old serial number stamping mechanisms had to be retired and brand-new ones made to handle the addition of 2-number year codes, 2-number plant codes, the addition of "F" for made For Factory items, the change from 4 to 5-digit style numbers, and the single letter at the end of the serial indicating the retailer the item was made for and the P indicating a pilot bag. All those changes were made to the serial number stampings during 2005 and 2006.

 

[Hyacinth]

Here's a 1997 Italian Coach bag made of French Calfskin and the seller says that it is part of the "Manhattan Collection" but the style and logo are very different from the mystery bag.

Vintage Coach Calfskin Manhattan Collection Tote

Shop pdx_monkey's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. A rare, unnamed chocolate brown tote from Coach’s Italian crafted 1997 Manhattan Collection, this small but mighty bag is made from French calfskin. It features a plastic zip closure...

poshmark.com

I doubt if they're connected. Coach made quite a few small lines at the Italy plant during the late 1990s. If Coach wanted a style or line that was a bit unusual and upscale, the Italy plant usually got the job. Calfskin was an Italian specialty, apparently. The Bridle line is a good example.

 

[LadyEdwards]

@katev,

Here's a picture of my Bridle Satchel bag 6707 with the handtag that accompanied it and a picture of the creed:





Hope it helps with your inquiry!

 

[katev]

@katev,

Here's a picture of my Bridle Satchel bag 6707 with the handtag that accompanied it and a picture of the creed:

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Hope it helps with your inquiry!

Thanks so much!

 

[katev]

Does anyone know if the Bridle Satchel bag 6707, that was made in Italy in 1998-99, originally came with a hangtag?

I've just purchased one in mahogany and brass that has been authenticated by @Hyacinth (thanks again!) It doesn't have a hangtag but some examples of this bag that I find online do have hangtags, like this one on Etsy at the link below that has a vintage Gramercy-style metal hangtag:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/103612...le-italy-shades-of?ref=shop_home_recs_1&cns=1

Recently @Lake Effect posted these catalog photos and descriptions of the bag and it doesn't look like there's a hangtag, but I'm not sure because the photos in the 1999 Preview Catalog are dark; and the much lighter photos from the 1998 Holiday Catalog look like there's no hangtag, yet at least one of the other Bridle bags on the page does have Gramercy-style metal hangtags.

Also, the Sample or Pilot Bridle Satchel-like bag that was recently acquired by @Busykitty has a leather hangtag - but you can expect variations with a pilot bag, see: https://www.etsy.com/listing/103612...le-italy-shades-of?ref=shop_home_recs_1&cns=1

Or is it possible that they altered the style in mid-production so that some of them had hangtags but others didn't? I'd greatly appreciate your insights, thanks!

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@katev,

Here's a picture of my Bridle Satchel bag 6707 with the handtag that accompanied it and a picture of the creed:

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Hope it helps with your inquiry!

@LadyEdwards, is the hangtag on your Bridle the vintage Gramercy-type hangtag, like the one on the right in the photo below? I think that it looks like it in your photo above but I am not sure.

The vintage Gramercy hangtags were a little smaller and thicker that the typical metal hangtags of that era and the shape was a little more streamlined.

Most photos of Bridle Satchels don't show any hangtag but I've seen a couple that have Gramercy style hangtags, but I don't know if they are original.

I may not be able to replace it with the correct hangtag on my Bridle but I'd like to know what was on the bag originally. Thanks!

 

[LadyEdwards]

@LadyEdwards, is the hangtag on your Bridle the vintage Gramercy-type hangtag, like the one on the right in the photo below? I think that it looks like it in your photo above but I am not sure.

The vintage Gramercy hangtags were a little smaller and thicker that the typical metal hangtags of that era and the shape was a little more streamlined.

Most photos of Bridle Satchels don't show any hangtag but I've seen a couple that have Gramercy style hangtags, but I don't know if they are original.

I may not be able to replace it with the correct hangtag on my Bridle but I'd like to know what was on the bag originally. Thanks!

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Yes, its like the handtag on the right side in your photo, only its silver-tone. I have several other black bags from the Bridle collection and they all have the same silver-tone handtag.

 

[katev]

Yes, its like the handtag on the right side in your photo, only its silver-tone. I have several other black bags from the Bridle collection and they all have the same silver-tone handtag.

That's good to know! It appears that the bag currently being shipped to me is mahogany with brass hardware so it is missing a brass hangtag.

I have several Italian Coach Madison and Gramercy bags but this will be my first Bridle bag so I am really looking forward to receiving it and I hope that the condition won't be too bad - but I got it at a good price so it's worth taking a chance IMO. Have you ever rehabbed a Bridle bag, and do they need any special care or attention? Anything unique about the pigskin and calfskin leather construction?

The bag being shipped to me is shown at the link below. It has some signs of wear and the interior looks dirty but hopefully the condition isn't too bad; do you have any suggestions for the rehab?

RARE VINTAGE Coach Classic Leather Handbag, Brown!

Shop sfusco18's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. RARE- VINTAGE!!! Authentic Coach bag. A perfect wardrobe staple! Fabulous condition!! Zippered Closure w/ Gold-tone Hardware. Zippered Interior Pocket. COMES W/ GENERIC/OTHER MISC...

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And what's up with that zipper pull?!! I've never seen anything similar on a Coach bag but it looks pretty cool!

BTW, in case anyone is interested, the same vendor has a Black/Nickel Italian Bridle Satchel 6707 listed for $50 OBO, see link below. Note that it is missing the hangtag and it is pictured with a Coach dustbag but the description says that it will be shipped with a "generic" dustbag.

RARE VINTAGE Coach Classic Leather Handbag, Black!

Shop sfusco18's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. RARE- VINTAGE!!! Authentic Coach bag. A perfect wardrobe staple! Fabulous condition!! Zippered Closure w/ Silver-tone Hardware. Zippered Interior Pocket. COMES W/ GENERIC/OTHER MISC...

poshmark.com

 

[LadyEdwards]

@katev: I haven't rehabbed my Bridle bags, so I'll be waiting for you to share your rehab experience and yes the zipper pull is unique!

 

[katev]

That's good to know! It appears that the bag currently being shipped to me is mahogany with brass hardware so it is missing a brass hangtag.

I have several Italian Coach Madison and Gramercy bags but this will be my first Bridle bag so I am really looking forward to receiving it and I hope that the condition won't be too bad - but I got it at a good price so it's worth taking a chance IMO. Have you ever rehabbed a Bridle bag, and do they need any special care or attention? Anything unique about the pigskin and calfskin leather construction?

The bag being shipped to me is shown at the link below. It has some signs of wear and the interior looks dirty but hopefully the condition isn't too bad; do you have any suggestions for the rehab?

RARE VINTAGE Coach Classic Leather Handbag, Brown!

Shop sfusco18's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. RARE- VINTAGE!!! Authentic Coach bag. A perfect wardrobe staple! Fabulous condition!! Zippered Closure w/ Gold-tone Hardware. Zippered Interior Pocket. COMES W/ GENERIC/OTHER MISC...

poshmark.com

And what's up with that zipper pull?!! I've never seen anything similar on a Coach bag but it looks pretty cool!

BTW, in case anyone is interested, the same vendor has a Black/Nickel Italian Bridle Satchel 6707 listed for $50 OBO, see link below. Note that it is missing the hangtag and it is pictured with a Coach dustbag but the description says that it will be shipped with a "generic" dustbag.

RARE VINTAGE Coach Classic Leather Handbag, Black!

Shop sfusco18's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. RARE- VINTAGE!!! Authentic Coach bag. A perfect wardrobe staple! Fabulous condition!! Zippered Closure w/ Silver-tone Hardware. Zippered Interior Pocket. COMES W/ GENERIC/OTHER MISC...

poshmark.com

@katev: I haven't rehabbed my Bridle bags, so I'll be waiting for you to share your rehab experience and yes the zipper pull is unique!

I've just received my new mahogany Bridle Satchel 6707 and it's great! It's dusty inside and out and it has some scratches, but it is in better shape than I expected. It might only need surface cleaning and conditioning but the handles are all bent and misshapen so I may have to dunk it. I'll let you know what happens - and I love that zipper pull!