How can I make my calves smaller?

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@Bambu you are too kind :P:smile:. We all help each other in this forum, just like how i read and use amici and princess updates and pictures for inspiration before i had my surgery. You mentioned that you are planning for your surgery with dr park soon right? I hope you all the best. You are in good hands with dr park. Him and his team have been good and kind to me.
Mandarin Chinese is actually my mother tongue and i speak it fluently, my dad also have reliable and close friends in taipei. Hence, he originally wanted me to go to taiwan to have this surgery instead of Korea, as he was also very concern with the political tension between north and south Korea. Taipei would have been the logical choice, as i speak 0 korean and had only been to korea once when i was younger. i was even planning to try communicate in japanese, if english fails :yucky:, as japan and korea is near and some korean do learn japanese ! But dr park's english is great! So no communication barrier at all. I was actually unaware of the difference between dr park and dr jong techniques at the time of planning for the surgery. I picked dr park because of his experience with the surgery and because Korea is the capital of beauty and plastic surgery here in Asia. Many Singaporeans opt to head to seoul to have plastic surgeries done, despite malaysia and thailand being just a stone's throw away and much much cheaper.

-Julia
 
Day 26

i want to summarise the various discomfort and ways of dealing with them, which i have tried and worked for me :smile:. I will separate the discomforts i faced according to weeks.

week 1:
1. post anaesthesia headache
--> This was during the first 3 days after surgery. Its down to luck i guess, some people get them, while others dont. Keep yourself hydrated and have some caffeine. Lie down instead of sitting, and the headache will go down when u lie down to rest. It will be gone spontaneously within the first week.
2. Fever --> Developed fever the day after surgery. Went away after a day. Let the doctor know and he will give you meds for it.
3. Nausea
4. Swollen feet -->My feet start swelling the night after the surgery. Try elevating or keep them on the chair/ bed when you sit or lie down. Swollen feet can get real painful if you keep putting your feet on the ground for a long time, during the first few days after the surgery. Dr park told me that you can massage the feet to help improve circulation. My aunt actually bought ginger, slice them and boiled them. She then let me soak my swollen feet in the boiled ginger water, which is very comfortable. This is a traditional Chinese technique she said.
5. Swelling in my thighs too--> make my legs look fatter than pre op.
5. Bruises start developing. They look scary and makes the region a little sore and tender to touch. Generally harmless, however some bruises are painful. So prepare heat or ice pack.
6. Deep soreness in the calves when stand/ walk
7. Pure pain during stretching during the first and second week of post op. Now in Day 26, i dont really feel anything when i stretch. You can up your stretching game slowly by stepping further away from the wall and do the belly to wall stretch.
8. You get easily tired and out of breath, even for just a short short walk. Like you just ran a full marathon.
9. Walking up any slope = dont even think about it. After the third week, i am able to walk up slopes much easier and faster.
10. Having to sleep only on my back and not being able to shift and change your position when you sleep. I actually got back aches and pain from sleeping only on my back. This is tricky even for me, as i mainly sleep on my back even before the surgery! I think it not being able to toss and turn that is tricky.
11. Apart from back aches from sleeping on my back, my back is a little sore from the spinal anaesthesia. Lasted for a few days.
12. Poor appetite during the first week post op. Mainly due to headaches, nausea and needing to take so much medications every day for the first week post op ( we are given 5 pills to take after EVERY meal, so its 15 pills a day plus the vitamins and bromelain.. )
13. Mild depression. stems from being kept at home, loneliness, home sickness, worrying that i will never recover again etc.. Mood is also heavily affected by the weather.

Week 2:
1. Muscle cramps
--> mainly in the morning. Painful during
2. Nerve Pain --> i had some nerve pain during the first week, but the frequency of occurence is much much higher during the second week for me. Often, its a burning sensation, sometimes it is a burning sensation + a stabbing high intensity pain. Usually at my right leg , ankle and frequently in my heel region. Now is week4, i didnt experience nerve pain. But lets hope it remains this way! Fingers crossed. Nerve pain is the most painful for me throughout this whole process. Try applying ice packs or take the strong pain killer Dr gave.
3. Pinching feeling in my heels when i walk/ stand too long. Not as pain as nerve pain or cramps. Bearable but irritating. I see it as a signal for me to sit and rest.
4. Itchiness under the bandages and swollen feet. Prepare thick and good calamine lotion before the surgery, I had hives before, which is way worse and calamine lotion really helped. Get the viscous and thick kind, the more watery ones is not as good i feel. The itchiness mostly died down at week4.

Week 3 - Now :
From week 3 onwards i didnt really experience any new form of discomfort or pain. Mainly the continuation of the previous conditions.

day 26 updates:
went for my fourth and final check up at Dr park clinic today afternoon. I was SO HAPPY when Dr told me that there are no more fluid left in my left calves! this means that i no longer have to worry about doing aspiration when i return to Singapore !!! SO happy its crazy. Dr Park also gave me the stocking before i left. He say that the stockings can be worn if i am wearing skirts, but bandage is still the way to go He also wanted me to update him my conditions and measurements every month. Before i left i asked him several questions, which i think some of you girls will be interested in too.
Q1: After i return home, if there are days when i do too much walking, will fluid still build up and do i have to aspire myself?
This question is very important, because a girl wrote here in the forum that she had her surgery down in taiwan, and there were a lot of fluid build up in her legs after she returned home and did long hours of walking one day. Her doctor instructed her do aspiration ASAP, and i was worried that i will face the same problem as her. Dr Park assured me that i will not have to do any more aspiration, and even if i walked too long, there will just be swelling but there is no need to do aspiration.
Q2: i plan to start yoga class when i return home, as my new form of exercise, How long do i have to wait before i can do yoga?
Dr park said that yoga is very good for the post op healing, and that i can start when i get home.
Q3: There is a small small lump at the inner side of my right calf, which i can feel it when i massage my legs. Is it normal ?
Dr Park said that it is normal and the small lump muscle will eventually smooth out over time.

*I just realised that i have never shared a side view pic before.

- Julia
 

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Hi ellen ! My direct side views are actually pretty "normal" looking pre op. My back and front views are more prominant.
 

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Day 30

Hi all. This is my 1 month post op mark! Yay! I am currently back in beautiful Singapore, so glad to be home. I have forgotten to post my day 28 update on my flight back home, will do so probably later.

Went to the office today. I chose to wear the compression stocking instead of my bandages so to avoid having to answer any questions. The stocking is pretty difficult to get on at first, but it is comfortable to wear. The bandage is definitely tighter than the stocking. In the office, i tried to walk as normaly as possible and was careful in hiding my slight limp. No one seem to suspect anything which was great.

I am unsure whether is it because singapore is just too damn hot and humid or what, but it is really uncomfortable to sleep with the bandages at night. I kept waking up because of pain from how the bandage wrapped around my calves. And i kept having to unwrap my bandages to give the irritated skin a breather and alleviate the pain. In the end, i got so annoyed that i slept without my bandages this 2 nights since i got back. I will try sleeping with my compression stocking tonight, hopefully there will be no problem.

Pain wise, i didnt experience any intense pain throughout the day. There will be times when my calves feel like they are having a minor minor cramp. However the feeling goes away quickly.

* In the picture collages, the last pic on day 30 is me wearing the compression stocking.

- Julia
 

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Sounds weird but have you tried roll on deodorant on your legs before bandage?it helps with sweaty legs and may be able to help with the humidity issues that you have in singapore? I do that for the back of my neck in summer here. It gets unbearbly hot and sweaty. Also arnica cream helps a bit with tight muscles and cramps.
 
Thanks for the response, Julia. For my calves, they aren't touching on the inside but the outer part of my calves are huge. When I flex my leg or wear heels, you can see the calf line.

Are you also noticing extra skin? Or barely anything? It doesn't look like there is loose skin on your calf at all!

And I think your legs look great now! :)
 
Sounds weird but have you tried roll on deodorant on your legs before bandage?it helps with sweaty legs and may be able to help with the humidity issues that you have in singapore? I do that for the back of my neck in summer here. It gets unbearbly hot and sweaty. Also arnica cream helps a bit with tight muscles and cramps.
Thanks for the tips! Lol to the deodorant trick ! :)
 
Thanks for the response, Julia. For my calves, they aren't touching on the inside but the outer part of my calves are huge. When I flex my leg or wear heels, you can see the calf line.

Are you also noticing extra skin? Or barely anything? It doesn't look like there is loose skin on your calf at all!

And I think your legs look great now! :smile:

Hi Ellen, i am sure dr Jong will be able to fix the outer parts of your legs. There are some stretch marks behind my calves ! There are more on the right than the left. Im not crazy about them but not too bothered too. One of my friend actually told me that she didnt even noticed my calves until i told her about the surgery. So ladies, we are really our harshest critics. Lets all stop driving ourselves crazy with minor problems! Haha
 
So there are stretch marks but not loose skin? I have stretch marks all over my butt so stretch marks aren’t an issue.

I am re evaluating my choice for doctors after seeing your results.

We are! But it sucks trying on pants that fit great around your waist and thighs.. and then having them be super tight on the calves :/
 
Day 28 - Leaving Seoul and taking train in Seoul.

Taking public train:


Today marks the end of my surgical trip to Seoul. It’s a biter-sweet moment to leave the Airbnb apartment, which I called home for the past month. I was able to get to Incheon airport via the train ( had to change train line once), while lugging around my super over sized and heavy luggage and a bag pack, without much hassle. Fortunately I was able to find seats on the train, which was my biggest concern as standing for too long is just a no no( (train ride took roughly 2hours in total, as I chose not to take the express train). For girls who are coming to Seoul for the surgery and are planning to take the public train here, there are seats designated for pregnant, elderly and injured passengers. Because the local people are really big on respect for their elders so the designated seats are usually taken up by the elderly and the young people do not usually hog this seats. So, if you are taking the train and wearing long pants/skirts to hide your bandages, the elderly will loudly ask you or gesture you to give up your seats in the designated area, unless you lift your legs and point out your bandages to them and they will leave you alone. Hence, if the weather permits, wear shorts to “show” your bandages. The normal non-designated seats are usually occupied and the people rarely give up their seats even if they see that you are in bandages.

Taking the train saved me $90 USD of cab fare to the airport. Prior to coming to Korea, my Airbnb host helped me pre-booked an airport express cab from Incheon to my Airbnb (around the area of the clinic ), and they charge a flat fee of 90,000 won ($90 USD). The total car ride was about 1 Hour 45 Mins, because the traffic in Seoul is actually pretty bad. Taking the train ( if you take the express train, which skips some stops ) is actually faster. The train fare from Incheon to the stop at my Airbnb is only around 3000 won ( $3 USD ). Thats a huge difference in price ! You can purchase a train card at the airport, however the train staff actually advise against tourist getting it because they charge a non-refundable 2500 won for the card. However, if you are like me and planning to stay for a long time, then getting the train card is very convenient. If you choose not to get a card, the ticket sales machine at the stations are very easy to use, if you know the name of the station that you are going. The machine also allows you to switch to Chinese, English or Japanese, which is very useful.

Plane ride back:

While checking in at the airline counter, the staff kindly gave me a priority pass so I can get through the security check at the departure hall without having to queue, as she saw my bandages. She also asked if I need wheelchair service, although I did not request or arrange for one beforehand. In day 28 now, I am able to walk for long distance without much problem, albeit slowly. Walking up steep slopes is also alright now. The swelling in my feet has subsided greatly in week 4 too. They are now around 80% of my pre op feet size and thickness. My current main concern in regards to swelling, is actually my ankles. As Dr park said that it isn’t necessary to wrap the ankle, hence I have been leaving that part unwrapped and only wrapping the upper 2/3 region of my calf region. This is probably why my feet is not as swollen as before, as the swelling can now go to the unwrapped ankles too. This is good I feel, as I can now wrap my calves as tightly as I can, without my feet feeling like they are going to explode from all the swelling. My ankles are now swollen to the point that they are visibly much thicker than my calve when I take off my bandages. Swollen ankles didn’t give me any pain, they are just ugly to look at.

The plane ride back to sunny and beautiful Singapore took about 6 hours. I exchanged for an aisle seat with a nice Korean lady, and it was much better. I was able to raise my legs and stretch them straight in the aisle. My seat was also at the back of the plane, which actually worked out great for me, because I was able to walk to the back and stretch as often as I want. The air stewardess did not bother me at all and let me stretch in peace.I was worried if I kept my feet down for the entire flight, they will swell badly when I reach home, or even swell so much till they hurt like in day 2 when I slept with my feet on the floor. I also brought my massage cream in my backpack, so I can massage my feet and ankle as often as I wish throughout the flight.

Driving:

Some girls are concern whether their driving ability will be impaired after the surgery, and I feel that its really up to the swelling in the feet. Because the feet is still swollen now, although I can flex them, they are still not as nimble and sensitive as pre op. Hence I am worried whether If I can switch between the brake and accelerator easily and quickly, and because my feet is not as sensitive as before, I am also worried If I will over step on the accelerator etc.. Hence I think it is advisable to wait till the swelling in your feet is roughly gone, before attempting to drive.

-Julia
 
So there are stretch marks but not loose skin? I have stretch marks all over my butt so stretch marks aren’t an issue.

I am re evaluating my choice for doctors after seeing your results.

We are! But it sucks trying on pants that fit great around your waist and thighs.. and then having them be super tight on the calves :/
Hi Ellen. I dont really think i have much loose skins. The skin at the back of my calves dont feel firm but they are not exactly saggy. I dont think you have to worry so much. The previous pic i have posted of my day 30 legs, i was actually wearing my compression stockings which is why the skin seems smooth. I have attached 2 pictures of my legs, when i am sitting and the skin is not pulled like when i am standing. You can see a small depression at the upper calf region ( where my finger is pointing ).

Regarding the change of doc, you need to go with your instinct and be confident with whoever you chose to go with at the end. Dr park removed so much of the bulky muscles at the inner and outer part, which was my greatest insecurity pre op. My legs look straight now, and they arent bulging from the sides. However, do keep in mind that the calves will gradually look more shapely after a few months have pass. So they wont stay as straight and shapeless as they do now. If you are concern with your calves looking too shapeless after the surgery, then i dont think you have to worry.
 

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Super long time lurker here!

Your legs look really great, Julia! It makes me super excited to have mine done. I’m 5’2 and my calves are thicker than my thighs. It’s so hard to wear straight leg jeans and pants.

I was super excited as I had saved up almost enough for this surgery with Dr. Jong but due to family matters, my savings were given up. I’m saving up again though, and aiming for end of 2019 if anyone else is interested as well.
Hi, also a super long time lurker on here!! I plan to visit Dr Jong possibly later this year/ next year....where will you be travelling from, as I'd feel so much happier about it if I could coordinate with someone else?
 
Hi, also a super long time lurker on here!! I plan to visit Dr Jong possibly later this year/ next year....where will you be travelling from, as I'd feel so much happier about it if I could coordinate with someone else?

I can’t do this year! I’m saving up again for the operation. I’m hoping for the end of next year! 2019 late summer/fall! I’m from Vancouver! PM me!!
 
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