How can I make my calves smaller?

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Happy Challenger, so good to hear your more positive outlook on your legs! And thanks for your supplemental recommendations also! I myself have put myself on a prescribed concoction of 9 supplemental vitamins, minerals and amino acids + collagen pills + arnica tablets to help aid my recovery also! I’ll list them next time as I don’t remember all of them. I quickly looked yours up and found that some of mine already overlap in the same ingredients, so that’s a good thing!

I also add to my daily regimen some light massaging of the feet, ankles and calves with arnica gel or arnica oil - this to help prevent the hardening of scar tissue that develops after any injury. I’m stretching the calves whenever and wherever I could also.

I’m 3.5 weeks post-op now! I can’t believe it’s been almost a month since the surgery, it feels a lot longer!

I’m recovering on a good rate, I believe. Everything improves by the day from swelling, walking, stiffness. Looking forward to the time my body feels ready to become gradually more active again!
 
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I'm not sure if anyone is having trouble finding help aspirating their calves but if you are looking for some suggestions, I hope my post below helps!

On Nov 27, I went out with friends and ended up walking/standing for more than 6 hours straight. I wore compression stockings when I went out but did not wrap my legs in elastic bandages. When I got home, my legs were extremely sore but I just thought I'd feel better in the morning after some elevation. The next morning came and I was SHOCKED to see how much fluid was built up in my legs!! I'd gently tap a spot and the whole calf would ripple, that's how bad it was. Immediately I panicked. Not only did my legs looked like a waterbed, they were swollen and painful. I haven't had pain in over 5 weeks so I knew this was serious. I took a video and sent it to Dr. Jong. He replied right away and said that there must be at least 50-60cc built up in each of my legs and I should get that aspirated asap. He also said to wrap my legs as tightly as I can tolerate, and elevate whenever possible to avoid blood clots and infections. This bothered me so much, I took a day off from work and went to see my family doctor (I'm in BC, Canada). After the doctor found out what I'd done to my legs, she was astonished and said she cannot help due to liability reasons. The only way I can get her to help is to get a full report, translated, from Dr. Jong to indicate what exactly was done and how. It sounded like too much of a hassle at the time so I decided to go to a hospital emergency room instead. The ER doctor said pretty much the same thing and asked me to try a private clinic. However the ER doctor said that he didn't think the fluid is too big of an issue. If I just keep elevating and keeping myself hydrated so my body does not retain water, the fluid should get absorbed by my body in a day or two. After I was released without given any medications or help in any form, I was depressed, angry, frustrated, and was just going so crazy. The next two days rolled by with constant elevations and wrapping and drinking water and peeing, things did not get better, but not worse either.

On Dec 1, I called a plastic surgeon but was only able to speak to the receptionist, who was no help at all. I also tried calling a private clinic and was told the initial consultation costs $160cad and the treatment might cost up to $2000cad depending on what needs to be done. Money wasn't a big issue as I was so desperate, but they have never heard of "needle aspiration" and are not familiar with the procedure. They said to me that there is one big nerve and many many smaller nerves in my calves and no-one should ever stick a needle in there under any circumstances........ I was beyond despair by this point and felt like I was running out of options. I couldn't eat, couldn't focus when I was at work, all I could think of were my calves and how no one was able to help me. Then, my boyfriend who is a non-believer, asked me to try an acupuncturist or chinese medicine doctor/therapist.

Dec 2, I called a popular chinese therapy centre and spoke to a registered acupuncturist. I explained my situation to him, he fully understood and said that the "bad blood" in my calves needs to be taken out. Not by a syringe but with tiny acupuncture needles and cupping. The chinese doctor told me, after I asked him if he's had experience with a similar case, that he's treated a patient with only 1 kidney who had trouble getting rid of his body fluid over a period of 9 years which resulted in severe infections and internal bleeding. He helped this particular patient by putting acupuncture needles in and cupping to "suck" the fluid out. It took him 9 sessions to drain all the fluid because the needles are so thin so only a little bit came out each time. And that's exactly what he did on my calf (yes only one as he said if I did two at the same time I would feel exhausted and might not be able to walk/drive safely). It did not hurt at all when the doctor was treating me but after, throbbing pain was quite bad that I had to take a couple advils. The doctor said he used a total of 100 needles...... I lol'd because I definitely did not feel like I had 100 needles in me. my calf did not feel better or worse after the acupuncture session but the next day, IT SHRUNK!!!! And no more rippling!

I am supposed to go back tomorrow to have my other leg done and I just can't wait. I cannot express how relieved I am. If you're someone who's stressing out about the fluid in your legs and that no one is helping you, I'd urge you to try an acupuncturist (or a chinese therapist because I know not all acupuncturists do cupping)... because it works!!! I have also been recommended by the chinese doc to soak my legs in water + 1 cup of epsom salts for 20 minutes x 3 times a day. Anyway, hope this helps someone out there!
 
Wow, @happychallenger that sounds crazy!! I can imagine your frustration and so sorry you had to go through that!
I'm glad you found a way out finally though, thanks for sharing, this is useful information indeed.

Sometimes modern, western medical practices can be so backwards when it comes to things that are 'outside of the books'. The moment they encounter something they never learned, they're paralysed as to knowing what to do. Even something as (that should be) simple as sticking a needle through a layer of skin to suck out fluid, if you think about it!

Hooray for traditional alternative medicine practicions!! :)

Thanks for sharing your story also, a gentle warning that I should STILL take it easy on my holiday travels coming up, keep my bandages on, elevate often, and definitely do not go for 6 hours straight at gravity position. Will have an easy New Years celebration..
 
hi @LiHuei yes definitely take it easy! I wasn't having pain or discomfort and felt like I was at 100%, so i just thought it was no big deal to walk without bandages. Dr. Jong's protocol was to wrap for 1 month and keep stockings on for 6 months but I strongly recommend at least 2-3 months of constant wrapping. Definitely be patient and let your legs heal, even when you think they have completely healed :) Now I'm elevating whenever possible: at work, at home, even when I go out to a restaurant i'd put my feet up on a chair i know it looks bad but since I have bandages on my legs I think people'd kind of understand haha.....
 
@happychallenger I have a question regarding your 6-hr load on your legs before the fluid build-up happened, what shoes were you wearing? Wedges? Pointy heels? Sneakers? Flats? Do you think the height and type of support mattered? I'm really trying to plan out my footwear for my holidays travels. lol. I'm sure I will walk more than usual and for new years eve, i still want to wear somewhat 'pretty' shoes! LOL.

I'm 1 month + 2 days post op today! I plan to still wear the compression bandage on for longer when walking.

It's so good that you still had your legs at no pain or discomfort at 1.5 months though; and by the way, did your feet swell up when you removed your bandage for that short amount of time? I am pretty much alright, but my right foot is still noticeably experiencing some numbness and mild pain now and again. I know this is nerve damage that will take time to heal, expecting 6 months - a year for this sort of thing to fully recover.
 
@LiHuei is it your feet that's painful or your calf/leg? I've never really had pain in my feet so I can't relate but I hope the pain/discomfort goes away soon :( !! My feet did not swell up after that day I went out for 6 hours in fact it's only when I wrap my legs really tight, my feet get all purple and swollen. I wore booties when I went out, with 1.5inch heels. I try not to wear heels just because I don't want to be using my calf muscles while they're trying to heal. If you're planning on being on your feet for hours I strongly recommend not wearing anything with heels and also have your legs wrapped. Not saying that you'll end up having fluid in your legs like I did but being in heels will definitely tire your legs a lot quicker!
 
@happychallenger the discomfort is on my right foot, and none on the legs. They are actually ok when left alone, I don't feel them during the day or when I'm on the move. In some mornings I feel them and when I massage them I definitely feel them.

My feet are quite wide, I also have bunions (I need to take care of these soon!); I find the compression stockings to have been too tight and hurt my feet during the night. I've cut holes on the bunion part on a couple of pairs and they helped in releasing tension.

Thanks for your answers and inputs on the footwear, I fully agree.. I think the feet should be as relaxed and as well cushioned/supported as possible, and if must wear heels, opt for lower height, wedges or chunkier heels the better.
 
And, @happychallenger, noted on the bandages, you are right. they do cause the feet to swell up more, ESPECIALLY when the feet are elevated. Several times I would elevate my legs high on the wall and forget that my legs were bandaged - until I realised they'd started to fatten up and get cold from lack of circulation!

Today I tried no bandage all day, been speed walking on the treadmil for 20 minutes, ran around to do errands and have hardly elevated the legs. It's 5pm now and so far they seem ok. Will check tomorrow morning if there's anything different/alarming.
 
Hi girls, I'll be heading to Taiwan on 2/19/2017 for the procedure, really nervous but I have been wanting this for a few years now.
For the girls that have gotten it done with Dr.Jong in Taiwan, which hotel did you guys stay at? @happychallenger @LiHuei
If anyone else is going around that time, we can keep each other company as I am heading there alone! I speak mandarin so language won't be a problem for me.
 
Hi girls, I'll be heading to Taiwan on 2/19/2017 for the procedure, really nervous but I have been wanting this for a few years now.
For the girls that have gotten it done with Dr.Jong in Taiwan, which hotel did you guys stay at? @happychallenger @LiHuei
If anyone else is going around that time, we can keep each other company as I am heading there alone! I speak mandarin so language won't be a problem for me.
I wish >< I'll be doing my facial surgeries in Korea though. Good luck to you though, girl!
 
I wish >< I'll be doing my facial surgeries in Korea though. Good luck to you though, girl!
Hi girls, I'll be heading to Taiwan on 2/19/2017 for the procedure, really nervous but I have been wanting this for a few years now.
For the girls that have gotten it done with Dr.Jong in Taiwan, which hotel did you guys stay at? @happychallenger @LiHuei
If anyone else is going around that time, we can keep each other company as I am heading there alone! I speak mandarin so language won't be a problem for me.
@QueenF i stayed at the dejavu hotel and it was decent. Wifi and breakfast were complimentary and room was clean. I also stayed in an Airbnb flat for a couple nights but I recommend you stay at a hotel if you're traveling alone because you don't want to be worrying about going out to get food you could just get room service at least until you can walk better
 
I am going to Dr Park at beginning of May. If anyone wants to join me please reply.
Hey Camber,
I want to go during the month of May too. But I haven't booked anything or know much of the procedure for that matter. Calf reduction has always been something on the back of my mind - so I come here and read sometimes. I think I'm ready for it now and saw your post.
However I'm not sure if there's anything I should have prepared or if planning it now would be too late for May. I'm available basically for the whole summer.
If you're comfortable, please, can you share what you have done up to now to prepare? Any help is good. ;) PM or reply is fine with me :D
 
Hey Camber,
I want to go during the month of May too. But I haven't booked anything or know much of the procedure for that matter. Calf reduction has always been something on the back of my mind - so I come here and read sometimes. I think I'm ready for it now and saw your post.
However I'm not sure if there's anything I should have prepared or if planning it now would be too late for May. I'm available basically for the whole summer.
If you're comfortable, please, can you share what you have done up to now to prepare? Any help is good. ;) PM or reply is fine with me :biggrin:
I would be happy to chat with you.
 
Hi Judypru, where are you based. I confirm I have provisionally booked for 1 May but will not be confirmed until I book flight. Have to send this to Dr Park and then he will confirm. I am flexible and having emailed Dr Park he is also flexible with time.
 
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