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I guess my post went up several days ago! lol it cut out and I couldn't find it so I rolled over and tried to sleep.
Day 1 post op
This was the most painful, I had to keep elevated but lying on my back all day was not comfy :(
My ankles are super swollen and I'm trying hard to ration my painkillers. Stretching was super difficult and I'm a dancer so I'm used to stretching but it has never hurt this much. I managed to straighten my legs by the end of the day but could bring myself to push myself against the wall so I dodn't

Day 2 post op
I went to the clinic today for my first post op checkup. I felt like I was walking almost normal just really REALLY slow in my wedges.
When I showed Dr. Park my stretching he said it wasn't good enough and pushed me to really lean into the wall... seriously I didn't know the stretching was supposed to be this painful, I litterally felt popping and shift under my skin.
They showed me another stretch and told me it's more frequency of stretching than length of time stretching so a little bit every 15 minutes is better than a longer session every hour. I promised to be more dilligent in my stretching and they changed my bandages, telling me to take them off for showed and rewrap tightly after.

Day 3 post op
I definitely upped my stretching game and visited a bakery for something more than just congee and apples. Still spent most of the day inside, my gait is improving lots and standing gets easier and easier!
 
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Hello Lihuei sorry for the late reply I just saw your comment. I have posted a few updates on here, hope they give good info and if you have questions on anything else feel free to email me or pm.
I'm excited for your appointment, pls knee in touch as I don't find a whole lot of people updating their post surgery progress so I would love to have someone to kind of compare and share progress with. Good luck!!

Hi Happy Challenger!

My op is moved to November 8th now. Thank you so much for sharing your progress, I will do the same! The suspense and nervousness in building up! Could be going back to this forum more leading up to the surgery. So in total you were there for 11 days post-op?
 
Hey :smile:
I've been reading since 6 month now and have booked my Operation with Dr jong in the middle of November!
@LiHuei how long will you stay in taipeh? and as you go earlier than me, Please share your experience! :smile:

Hey Lui!

My op is coming up on November 8th, I could still be there by the time you get yours! Dr. Jong insisted that I spare 14 days, so I'm keeping an open itinerary and will leave when it's best to leave. I read one girl who could go after 8, another after 11; so I guess it's different for everyone.

I will share my experience for sure! Will you be there alone?
 
Yup I was in Taipei for a total of 11 days post op. I know exactly how you feel!! I was so nervous and the morning of the surgery I was so nervous I threw up twice..... But really I'm glad I did it because my calves were so big they were making me very self conscious. I never owned a pair of skinny jeans or nice boots because they would not fit. I would always be that girl who wears pants to the beach. I'm glad I did it, and I'm glad I picked dr Jong :)
Hi Happy Challenger!

My op is moved to November 8th now. Thank you so much for sharing your progress, I will do the same! The suspense and nervousness in building up! Could be going back to this forum more leading up to the surgery. So in total you were there for 11 days post-op?
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Hi all!

I am now at approximately 60th hour since the beginning of operation. Been following the U.S. election since my first waking day.. ***** madness all over the world!

Back on the subject and what you’re all waiting to hear about, I chose Dr. Jong in Taiwan for the partial muscle resection procedure. I had emailed both Dr. Park and Dr. Jong in early September, understanding that Dr. Park had done this a gazilion more times than Dr. Jong has - a credibility that should be considered no doubt - but my communication process with Dr. Jong won me over quite quickly. Moreover, I’ve followed this thread and read through the pros and cons between Dr. Jong and Dr. Park that also helped me with my decision.

Surgery Day
Was pretty calm and confident up until they started sterilising my body from the breast down. Then I got more and more nervous as they laid me down, inserted an IV needle, gave me the spinal anaesthesia, turned me over, waited and down I went to starting to feel the numb sensations on my lower half. The questions started to set in like, “Do I really need this done? Are my calves really THAT bad?!”

Well, no turning back now. So I had to pull out my best meditative skills to keep breathing and calm down, self-reminding of how sure I was in wanting this done, and how my calves ran my life since my teenage years and how long I’ve dreamed for this life-changing moment; and for the right doctor to appear into my life! Thanks to this forum and all of you contributing.

They didn’t last though. For the next 4 hours plus of the surgery, I was staring at the clock whenever I could, counting down (really bad move, don’t do this!); I fell asleep now and again, but for the most part I was half-conscious. Mentally for me it was a tough one, I continuously battled the two thoughts whether or not I had made the right choice to allow this done to my body - if maybe I could have learned to be grateful instead? I do apologise if what I’m about to say is a little graphic and TMI, but I feel obligated to be honest to share what to expect in case it matters and that if you choose to do this, you can mentally prepare yourself. Though I was numb and couldn’t feel a thing pain-wise, I could still feel the ongoing procedure when Dr. Jong had to, ‘pull’ and ‘tug' my leg out and up, time and time again. I found this disturbing and made me feel ‘bad’ for the decision I made upon myself. I don’t know if anyone else felt this or it’s just me, but ANYHOW, in the end I knew it was too late to back out and should just focus on the end game instead! One nurse whose role I believe was just to make sure that I was OK throughout the entire time, sat close by me the entire time; rubbing my hands for comfort, covering me with blankets to keep me warm, gave me heating pads for my cold hands - I think without her the surgery would’ve been more of a struggle.

Immediately after operation, my mother who decided to keep me company during the first critical days had already arrived in the clinic and saw the 4 (or 5)-nurse team of very loving and caring individuals + Dr. Jong transferred me into my bed. She immediately noticed a reduction in size on my calves. Not sure if its a placebo expectation effect, but she was right that the shape at least was already different, less bulging like before.

Not experiencing much pain here, I didn’t really have too much appetite for dinner that night, mother left, Dr. Jong gave me some meds, he stayed overnight at the clinic (I guess to be near my proximity in case of emergencies?), and then I slept.

Day 1 - Post OP
Woke up and like most of everyone had described, it’s not really excruciating pain sensation but tightness, stiffness and major soreness. So, it’s really not that bad. A urinary catheter had been inserted into my bladder so I didn’t have to go to the toilet to pee! I hear at Dr. Park there is no such aid given and everyone is forced to learned to walk themselves to the toilet soon after surgery. I can’t imagine this, but I suppose Dr. Park has his ways.

Dr. Jong checked up on me early in the morning before he went home to grab me some breakfast of homemade soymilk and orange - as I’d requested - then he left to go to another clinic for the day. One nurse stayed back to keep me company. I turned the TV on and followed the election all day on CNN, mother came by again, nurse bought me lunch, ate lunch, then, I HAD TO POOP. Dr. Jong already advised that it is best to eat little, and if I needed to poo, he advised doing it from the bed o__0 - there is no way in hell…. I asked the nurse to help me to the toilet, and my mum being there to assist made it all possible. I never imagined a trip to the toilet could be that difficult, but I made it and pooped like I would normally. Just with weak legs.

Not much into the night, slept early, woke up way too early, kept myself busy with the laptop, slept again, and repeat.

Day 2 - Post OP
Can’t wait to check out the clinic and into the hotel for a change of environment today!!
Like the previous day, no pain, same tightness and soreness. CNN on TV, got fed breakfast, lunch, laptop work, fiddling with phone to kill the time.

I also did something outside of Dr. Jong’s bed rest instructions, also didn’t ask for his permission in case he would forbid (but I don’t think he would, because the legs are still elevated). I started to scoot myself down towards the end the of the bed and stretched the feet against the vertical board at bed’s end. I aimed to keep feet flat and knees as straightened out as possible. First at wide angles, stopping just before a point of pain/discomfort, get busy with my laptop/phone/TV to forget about them; and once time has played into flexed out joints, I bring the feet closer together and repeat the process. Bringing the feet closer and closer each time, flatter and straighter joints each time.*

*Note: I stretch a lot regularly to a point of oversplits, and the one thing that concerned me as the outcome of this surgery is losing my split flexibility - so I’m extra keen on keeping myself ahead on this one. My understanding on injury is also that, the more sedentary you remain post-injury, the tighter/shorter your muscle will become upon recovery - thus why rehabilitation of mobility is highly recommended early into the recovery phase.

When Dr. Jong was ready to prepare me for checkout, I was brought back into the surgery room with the nurses, given another a shot of painkiller that made me drowsy - because he was about to take out the blood drainage tubes that were warned to be a little bit painful. A little bit painful it was, made me hold my breath a little bit, but bearable. They continued to change tie up my stitches, changed the dressing; Dr. Jong measured my calves, but I didn’t ask this time and decided to just wait until my next appointment with him to review, put my stockings back on, and off I went to be put into a cab with my walking aid.

The hotel lent me a wheelchair and I think everyone looked at me weird, “who is this girl wearing a long dress, on a wheelchair, got stockings and bandages around her legs and still choose to wear platform heels?” LOL.

My mum rolled me around the neighbourhood afterward, we bought dinner from the street food stalls and ate them in the room. I managed to move around the room with the walking aid to wash my face, brush my teeth, wiped my body with a wet cloth (no shower yet), and now about to call it a night.

More updates to come!
 
Hey guys :)

Today is my First Day PO and I also want to share my experience with you, as I always was very thankful to hear from other girls!
The spinal anesthesia didn't hurt to much, just like a normal syringe. I was very nervous so I got something that Made me fall asleep!
Yesterday after the OP I was really in pain and after taking medicin against the pain I felt nauseous so I thought it would be the Best to just sleep, which wasn't easy because of the pain! unlike the other girls I didn't feel tightness or sore I just felt a strong pain in my hole calves. maybe I'm just oversensitive.. Today was the First time I felt relatively painless. but I am completely unable to move! I still lie in the same Position as Yesterday when they Put me into bed.
Like everyone mentioned above, Dr. Jong is really nice and caring and although I'm alone I feel like they immediately would be there if I need something!
Tomorrow my boyfriend comes to pick me up, i am curious if I will already be able to walk tomorrow but I don't think so!
I'll keep you updated!
 
Hello everybody!

It’s day 10 post surgery and I have flown out of Taipei! I’ve had 3 check-ups with Dr. Jong since I left the clinic, and they were on Day 6, 8 and 10 (this morning). Diary below, but it’s worth mentioning ahead of time that I did not follow Dr. Jong’s instructions to keep my legs bandaged outside the stocking whenever I’m standing up or walking around outside. I also walked quite plenty and got 3 days of foot reflexology & soft-ish leg massage (I think the foot reflexology was fine and in fact - helped with blood circulation - but the calf massage I think made an affect and should have been avoided. The masseuse, however ‘soft’ you tell them to be, most of the time can’t go THAT softly).

My walking distance diary from Steps counter:

Day 6 - 8.4 km (1st check up with Dr. Jong. Everything looks good.)
Day 7 - 4.7 km + foot massage
Day 8 - 7.7 km + foot massage (upon 2nd check-up, Dr. Jong found some built up fluid, but too little to be aspirated)
Day 9 - 5 km + foot massage
Day 10 - Flying out of Taipei

On showering: Call me nasty, but I didn’t shower until Day 8 / 9! I just wiped myself a couple of times with a wet towel, wash my face and brushed my teeth by the sink, and managed to get my hair shampoo’ed and dried at the salon; they only cost about NT 300-350 ~ about $10. I also sanitize my compression stockings regularly with antiseptic wet wipes whenever I come back home from being outside. My main reason for not showering was because I was lazy, borderline not liking the process of taking off and putting back on my socks. They’re not so bad, I was just not motivated enough!

In details:

Day 3 - Post Op
I woke up with quite a bit of discomfort to my legs. Had trouble sleeping comfortably throughout the night, several times waking up to readjust my position, massage my feet etc. I was not feeling excruciating pain, but stiffness and soreness on the feet, I guessed I was swelling against the compression stocking. I think I overdid my walking / moving around (even with the walking aid) on the previous day. Despite the weakness, I was too excited that I was released and no longer under medical watch, that I just wanted to move around more.

I messaged Dr. Jong to ask him about this and the first thing he asked was if I’d walk a lot since my check-out. I guess he’s aware of how naughty everyone could get in moving around after being released. Well, it’s not easy to lay down for days straight! The over-restedness just prevented me from getting tired and being able to fall asleep!

Anyhow, his suggestion is the same protocol to rest and keep legs elevated. So that’s what I did for the remaining of day 3. At least tried my best to.

Day 4 - Post Op
On heels, I practiced straightening out my knees as Dr. Jong instructed me to on this day. In addition, I walked around a little bit more on this day than the previous, while still keeping the bed-rest policy in check whenever I could.

Day 5 - Post Op
Not much different than Day 4. Slow practices, going gently, and feeling it becoming easier and more comfortable each time I practice. I did realise however, that once the body is in rested position again from standing up or walking, the muscles contract again and when you want to start standing up or walk again, the calves sort of, ‘restarts’ and you struggle a tiny bit to get mobile again.

Day 6 - Post Op
First check up with Dr. Jong, and everything looked good! I had already walked for about 1 hour on and off in total prior to Dr. Jong’s appointment. I learned how to put on the compression stockings on my own and Dr. Jong gave me the permission to walk more; knowing me, when I heard this I knew I would possibly overdo it. Hahah!! I proceeded to walking about 8.4 km on this day.

Day 7 - Post OP
My legs felt depleted of power today. Not surprised considering how much I’ve walked the previous day. So, I had the brilliant idea to get foot reflexology to 1) help with blood circulation; and 2) kill time. So, having walked better and better each time, and very confident with this idea, I did. The masseuse knew to go softer on the calf and had my permission to go nuts on my foot for maximum benefits. The calf massage wasn’t so hard but my calves did feel sore when she ran through them; I wasn’t sure whether to stop her or not, not knowing which to believe, if it would aggregate or stimulate better the wound. I thought there was only one way to find out: Get the massage and cross-check that with Dr. Jong’s ultrasound analysis!

Often times I like to guinea-pig myself a little too much.

Day 8 - Post Op
Second check-up with Dr. Jong! He found about 9cc of built-up fluid (blood) on both calves. Not good, but not bad. They’re too little of an amount to be aspirated. He asked me how far/long/much I’ve walked, and I told him 8km and 5 km + foot relflexology and a little bit of leg massage. I asked him if the massage was ok, he said ‘ok, but not forcefully’.

I also asked him if I could start walking on flatter shoes, I figured I was ready and the sooner I train them, the sooner I’ll be able to. He said yes, I can start lowering my heel. In my head, it also doesn’t make sense to walk so much on higher heels as you’re working your calf muscles more! Not to mention more tiring!

Having practiced flat-footed in the hotel room, I decided I may not be ready for completely flat shoes just yet. I also ran through older posts of this thread and found people reporting a drop in endurance when they switch to flat shoes. I think the muscles need to be stretched down gradually and progressively.

I went out and bought a pair of lower heels that I liked and can definitely use even after surgery. Much more comfortable height wise, but I can attest that the muscles are learning the new angle and I walk slower and weirder than on higher heels. Though I was aware that this is temporary until my legs are used to the new form, which, didn’t take long.

Walked near 8 km again on this day + another massage.

Day 9 - Post Op
Nothing much different on this day. Had my foot reflexology and massage before bed time at 11pm (the place opens until 2am!). I allowed the masseuse to add a little bit of pressure into the leg massage. I had a feeling it was the wrong decision to make. Well, verdict in the morning on my last check up with Dr. Jong before my flight back home!

Day 10 - Post Op
As I predicted, the pressured massage on calf was a bad move. Dr. Jong found drastic fluid build-up, especially on my left calf. Up to 36cc from 9 of left leg. My right one was slightly less at 14cc. He aspirated both of them, but he was not so alarmed. He laughed saying I’m the only patient he knows who got this operation and would get a massage (because it hurts in a good, sore way?).

He bandaged my legs, ran through after-care instructions for when I’m back home, gave me a Doctor’s letter for aspiration should I be needing them, a wheelchair certificate for the airport (which had been awesome cutting lines by the way!), and off I went.

Regarding size of my legs, they haven’t gone down that much. Maybe about 1cm from original size fluctuating, I’m also not too concerned with the size at the moment - as I know I’ve been rebellious on the recovery process and find my legs swelled up more often than not. I think they were the smallest right after surgery when I was barely moving then. I’ll monitor for size around the 1 month mark and thereafter.

Now that I don’t have Dr. Jong within 5-minute walk distance, I promise to keep my legs bandaged for as long as I can have them bandaged, no more calf massage, continue with the foot reflexology and general mobility rehab of walking and stretching.

Let’s see how my recovery goes!
 
Heey!
I'm on day 4 post op now and can slowly start to walk around with the walking aid. unlike the other girls I'm not recovering very well! I had my first check up with Dr. jong today and although my calves are still swollen the recovery is quite normal, but I have developed a condition called spinal headache which seems to be pretty rare. everytime I try to sit up or walk I get extreme headache and feel dizzy and sick. Moreover I got fever. Dr. jong says this should be better in 2 or 3 days, but for now I'm quite unable to practice walking because I simply can't stand up or even sit upright so my boyfriend brings me food to the hotel room as I can not really leave the room.
I have never read about this at any other case on this forum so probably it's just bad luck. but either way I definitely think you should bring someone with you! I could never ever have gone through the past few days alone!
At the moment I must admit I don't really care about my calves and just hope I'll recover soon.
I'll keep you updated!
 
Ah Lui!! I'm so sorry to hear your headaches and sickness end up more serious than nausea as I assumed.. :(
I read up a little bit about it and seems like it's not that 'rare' and in fact, occurs more common than you think (even though less than 50% chance) as one of the possible side effects of spinal anaesthesia. Have you googled it up? I saw that they should go away on their own, but the amount of time it lasts should be monitored. And, funny enough, caffeine is supposed to help? : /

On my end, it's Day 14 Post OP now, and I'm recovering quite alright. I can walk flat-footed faster each day, but can find myself limping to one side when tired. I've started to facilitate walking on the treadmill since yesterday, on slow speed, working my way up faster and targeting 1km distance. Today I've managed to increase speed and also distance to 1.6 km. I'm stretching here and there and still keeping my legs wrapped in compression stockings 24/7 plus bandage when my legs aren't elevated.

I am still experiencing swelling, numbness and tingling on some parts of my feet and very occasionally, short, sharp bursts of mild pain on a couple parts of my feet too. These have been present since day of surgery, but I believed they will go away in time - and because I was too focused on the outcome of my calves, I wasn't really minding them! Hahahah... Another thing is that every time the legs are rested (from sleeping, or sitting down, or bed-rest elevated), when you want to get up to walk again, the muscles sort of 'restart' and they become tight again. You need a moment to stretch them out before they have full range of mobility again.

Now, on looks of my calves. I finally stood straight in front of a full-length mirror the other night for the first time and was stunned to see my bare-naked new legs. I WAS IN LOVE!

When I asked Dr. Jong how much reduction I could be expecting, he answered around 2 cm (he only took about 100 gr muscle from each leg; compared to what some girls posted here I thought they were quite little) - for a second I was a bit disappointed, at the same time keeping faith and trust in Dr. Jong's better judgment of shape. I also remind myself that my legs are quite short for my height, compensated by a longer torso. My starting out calf circumferences were 37 & 36.5; in the morning they are down to the 35 & 34 range (measured with the compression stockings on, in the morning). My measurements are quite off considering I measured with stockings on, and also without a proper tape measure. When I find a good tape measure I'll share again!

You can see that's not much in cm-value in terms of reduction, but the difference is HUGE! I think if I were to go anywhere above 4-5cm reduction, my calves may be thin but they would look disproportionate on the less desirable end; not to mention shaving off too much muscle for quantity sake may interfere with function. Scary.

I'll share some before / after photo in the next post, but i just want leave a note for those who are considering reduction and have consulted the Dr. Jong via email (I read from older posts that Dr. Park is able to promise far-higher number of cm reduction), EVERY CENTIMETER MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. Depending on your height, lower body length, starting circumference, don't get discouraged too quickly. I appreciate Dr. Jong's honesty despite my initial disappointment (and I'm sure he deals with this from every patient, asking him to remove "A LOT, PLEASE"). Dr. Jong really focuses on the final shape of the calves, not just circumference. His sculpting ability is high and I just want to say that I am sooooooooo pleased with his work. I'm 100% glad I chose Dr. Jong. Consider also this is only 2 weeks post op, there's still loose skin and swelling on the legs. I can only hope and imagine that in 3-6 months time, up to a year, the final result could only be better.
 
@LiHuei yeah I've googled it too and it depends on the source! some say its up to 70% others that it occurs only in 1% of the cases.. but I tried to take caffeine, so I actually drank a lot of coffee haha, and it really worked!! so I could go outside for longer than 10 minutes for the first time! :biggrin:

The walking is already much better today! I could walk without the walking aid for the first time! but still with wedges! the left leg is much better than the right one, I even managed to walk flat on this side!

Regarding Dr. jong I absolutely agree with LiHuei! and I'm also glad I haven chosen him! he calls me every day to ask if I'm alright! like other girls mentioned before, he provides a phone for the first days and walking aid and wheel chair! he even buys you exactly the food you want, while staying in the clinic (which isn't common in my country!!) so he's really caring and to me that is pretty important, I even think it makes a difference in the recovery process.
 
Hi LiHuei how are you doing now? your legs look great! Dr Jong told me he'd only removed about 75g of muscles from each of my legs and I thought that was very little! I can't really see a huge difference which I'm pretty sad about right now... Hopefully I see a better result in a few more weeks. I'm now 1.5 month post op.

Hello everybody!

It’s day 10 post surgery and I have flown out of Taipei! I’ve had 3 check-ups with Dr. Jong since I left the clinic, and they were on Day 6, 8 and 10 (this morning). Diary below, but it’s worth mentioning ahead of time that I did not follow Dr. Jong’s instructions to keep my legs bandaged outside the stocking whenever I’m standing up or walking around outside. I also walked quite plenty and got 3 days of foot reflexology & soft-ish leg massage (I think the foot reflexology was fine and in fact - helped with blood circulation - but the calf massage I think made an affect and should have been avoided. The masseuse, however ‘soft’ you tell them to be, most of the time can’t go THAT softly).

My walking distance diary from Steps counter:

Day 6 - 8.4 km (1st check up with Dr. Jong. Everything looks good.)
Day 7 - 4.7 km + foot massage
Day 8 - 7.7 km + foot massage (upon 2nd check-up, Dr. Jong found some built up fluid, but too little to be aspirated)
Day 9 - 5 km + foot massage
Day 10 - Flying out of Taipei

On showering: Call me nasty, but I didn’t shower until Day 8 / 9! I just wiped myself a couple of times with a wet towel, wash my face and brushed my teeth by the sink, and managed to get my hair shampoo’ed and dried at the salon; they only cost about NT 300-350 ~ about $10. I also sanitize my compression stockings regularly with antiseptic wet wipes whenever I come back home from being outside. My main reason for not showering was because I was lazy, borderline not liking the process of taking off and putting back on my socks. They’re not so bad, I was just not motivated enough!

In details:

Day 3 - Post Op
I woke up with quite a bit of discomfort to my legs. Had trouble sleeping comfortably throughout the night, several times waking up to readjust my position, massage my feet etc. I was not feeling excruciating pain, but stiffness and soreness on the feet, I guessed I was swelling against the compression stocking. I think I overdid my walking / moving around (even with the walking aid) on the previous day. Despite the weakness, I was too excited that I was released and no longer under medical watch, that I just wanted to move around more.

I messaged Dr. Jong to ask him about this and the first thing he asked was if I’d walk a lot since my check-out. I guess he’s aware of how naughty everyone could get in moving around after being released. Well, it’s not easy to lay down for days straight! The over-restedness just prevented me from getting tired and being able to fall asleep!

Anyhow, his suggestion is the same protocol to rest and keep legs elevated. So that’s what I did for the remaining of day 3. At least tried my best to.

Day 4 - Post Op
On heels, I practiced straightening out my knees as Dr. Jong instructed me to on this day. In addition, I walked around a little bit more on this day than the previous, while still keeping the bed-rest policy in check whenever I could.

Day 5 - Post Op
Not much different than Day 4. Slow practices, going gently, and feeling it becoming easier and more comfortable each time I practice. I did realise however, that once the body is in rested position again from standing up or walking, the muscles contract again and when you want to start standing up or walk again, the calves sort of, ‘restarts’ and you struggle a tiny bit to get mobile again.

Day 6 - Post Op
First check up with Dr. Jong, and everything looked good! I had already walked for about 1 hour on and off in total prior to Dr. Jong’s appointment. I learned how to put on the compression stockings on my own and Dr. Jong gave me the permission to walk more; knowing me, when I heard this I knew I would possibly overdo it. Hahah!! I proceeded to walking about 8.4 km on this day.

Day 7 - Post OP
My legs felt depleted of power today. Not surprised considering how much I’ve walked the previous day. So, I had the brilliant idea to get foot reflexology to 1) help with blood circulation; and 2) kill time. So, having walked better and better each time, and very confident with this idea, I did. The masseuse knew to go softer on the calf and had my permission to go nuts on my foot for maximum benefits. The calf massage wasn’t so hard but my calves did feel sore when she ran through them; I wasn’t sure whether to stop her or not, not knowing which to believe, if it would aggregate or stimulate better the wound. I thought there was only one way to find out: Get the massage and cross-check that with Dr. Jong’s ultrasound analysis!

Often times I like to guinea-pig myself a little too much.

Day 8 - Post Op
Second check-up with Dr. Jong! He found about 9cc of built-up fluid (blood) on both calves. Not good, but not bad. They’re too little of an amount to be aspirated. He asked me how far/long/much I’ve walked, and I told him 8km and 5 km + foot relflexology and a little bit of leg massage. I asked him if the massage was ok, he said ‘ok, but not forcefully’.

I also asked him if I could start walking on flatter shoes, I figured I was ready and the sooner I train them, the sooner I’ll be able to. He said yes, I can start lowering my heel. In my head, it also doesn’t make sense to walk so much on higher heels as you’re working your calf muscles more! Not to mention more tiring!

Having practiced flat-footed in the hotel room, I decided I may not be ready for completely flat shoes just yet. I also ran through older posts of this thread and found people reporting a drop in endurance when they switch to flat shoes. I think the muscles need to be stretched down gradually and progressively.

I went out and bought a pair of lower heels that I liked and can definitely use even after surgery. Much more comfortable height wise, but I can attest that the muscles are learning the new angle and I walk slower and weirder than on higher heels. Though I was aware that this is temporary until my legs are used to the new form, which, didn’t take long.

Walked near 8 km again on this day + another massage.

Day 9 - Post Op
Nothing much different on this day. Had my foot reflexology and massage before bed time at 11pm (the place opens until 2am!). I allowed the masseuse to add a little bit of pressure into the leg massage. I had a feeling it was the wrong decision to make. Well, verdict in the morning on my last check up with Dr. Jong before my flight back home!

Day 10 - Post Op
As I predicted, the pressured massage on calf was a bad move. Dr. Jong found drastic fluid build-up, especially on my left calf. Up to 36cc from 9 of left leg. My right one was slightly less at 14cc. He aspirated both of them, but he was not so alarmed. He laughed saying I’m the only patient he knows who got this operation and would get a massage (because it hurts in a good, sore way?).

He bandaged my legs, ran through after-care instructions for when I’m back home, gave me a Doctor’s letter for aspiration should I be needing them, a wheelchair certificate for the airport (which had been awesome cutting lines by the way!), and off I went.

Regarding size of my legs, they haven’t gone down that much. Maybe about 1cm from original size fluctuating, I’m also not too concerned with the size at the moment - as I know I’ve been rebellious on the recovery process and find my legs swelled up more often than not. I think they were the smallest right after surgery when I was barely moving then. I’ll monitor for size around the 1 month mark and thereafter.

Now that I don’t have Dr. Jong within 5-minute walk distance, I promise to keep my legs bandaged for as long as I can have them bandaged, no more calf massage, continue with the foot reflexology and general mobility rehab of walking and stretching.

Let’s see how my recovery goes!
 
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Hi Happy challenger!

I’m doing ok. I’m about 2.5 weeks post-op now. My right leg is going strong and i have been walking flat for a week now, but my left has been feeling tightness on a particular point of the calf that’s preventing full range of mobility - I’ve informed Dr. Jong this and included photos and videos for him to analyse, he’s going to send me a video response today.

Dr. Jong removed about 100 gr of muscle from each of my leg, which I thought was also quite little, but have been pleased with the final look on the mirror when I have my socks and bandages off. Considering there is still A LOT of loose skin and swelling, the shape is surely still going to change. I'm also not measuring, I'm going more by appearance than measurement for the time being. They're too inaccurate right now. I’m prepared to give it at least 3 months before I make an opinion, and 6 - 12 months to expect ‘final’ final result. I think 1.5 months is still too early? Apart from the measurements, are you not liking how they look? And, are you still keeping your legs wrapped in stockings and bandage most of the time?

I think the perception of ‘slim’ is really subjective here. And having seen some examples of Dr. Park’s results vs. Dr. Jong’s, my views are these:

1. I see Dr. Jong more as a sculptor and more attentive to the aesthetics; Dr. Parks results were a lot of skinny calves, which is fine and could be a preference to some people, but I much prefer shape and curves. Dr. Jong removed the bulges of my legs while still maintaining curvature and they’ve made a world’s difference in appearance.

2. From having read through this forum, I picked up the sense that Dr. Jong’s removal in muscle gram quantity tends to be on the modest side compared to Dr. Park’s. Dr. Park’s promise of reduction in cm value were also reportedly much greater than Dr. Jong. While it sounds tempting, it also sounds risky.

The outcome of my legs so far aren’t the slimmest, but I think they are very proportional and go well with my body shape as a whole. I also believe if I shed some pounds of (fat) bodyweight, they’ll slim down as well. This happened to me two years ago, i found my calves much slimmer from fat loss. Plus, I’m sure when the skin starts to tighten up and shrink to close the ‘empty’ space, more reduction could be expected. I think the outcome of this surgery can be maximised by other efforts without sacrificing more muscle - because this in effect, would also affect recovery and function in the longer run, which is a risk I’m less willing to take.

It’s worth adding that I’m a firmer believer in great difference through subtle changes. When I’m fully healed, I want people to look at me and wonder, “hmm.. She looks better but I can’t put my finger on why…”; rather than “WHOA, WHERE THE HELL DID HER LEGS GO?! I SWEAR THEY DID NOT LOOK LIKE THAT BEFORE” :D

Hi LiHuei how are you doing now? your legs look great! Dr Jong told me he'd only removed about 75g of muscles from each of my legs and I thought that was very little! I can't really see a huge difference which I'm pretty sad about right now... Hopefully I see a better result in a few more weeks. I'm now 1.5 month post op.
 
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Hi Luhuei, You've made me look at the whole situation from a different perspective and honestly reading your reply's made me feel so much better. I was actually quite depressed to find out only 75g of muscle was removed becaus Thats then least amount I've heard from anyone who's gone thru the op. I've been obsessed with measuring my calves 2-3 times a day and have been just focusing on the size, rather than the whole shape. I do like the way my legs look now but honestly I really was hoping to see a bigger difference given what I've had to go through. My legs don't hurt at all anymore and they seem to have completely healed because they're not swollen or in pain. I'm still wearing stockings 24/7 but have not been wearing bandages for a couple of weeks now. I've told the other girls this and I'll share this with you too: I've been taking scorbatate powder and Wobenzym N since the first week of surgery and these two natural supplements (help with muscle exertions and wounds) have given me a smooth recovery. My best friend is a naturopathic Doctor and that's how I learned about the supplements! They can be purchased online from Amazon.

Hi Happy challenger!

I’m doing ok. I’m about 2.5 weeks post-op now. My right leg is going strong and i have been walking flat for a week now, but my left has been feeling tightness on a particular point of the calf that’s preventing full range of mobility - I’ve informed Dr. Jong this and included photos and videos for him to analyse, he’s going to send me a video response today.

Dr. Jong removed about 100 gr of muscle from each of my leg, which I thought was also quite little, but have been pleased with the final look on the mirror when I have my socks and bandages off. Considering there is still A LOT of loose skin and swelling, the shape is surely still going to change. I'm also not measuring, I'm going more by appearance than measurement for the time being. They're too inaccurate right now. I’m prepared to give it at least 3 months before I make an opinion, and 6 - 12 months to expect ‘final’ final result. I think 1.5 months is still too early? Apart from the measurements, are you not liking how they look? And, are you still keeping your legs wrapped in stockings and bandage most of the time?

I think the perception of ‘slim’ is really subjective here. And having seen some examples of Dr. Park’s results vs. Dr. Jong’s, my views are these:

1. I see Dr. Jong more as a sculptor and more attentive to the aesthetics; Dr. Parks results were a lot of skinny calves, which is fine and could be a preference to some people, but I much prefer shape and curves. Dr. Jong removed the bulges of my legs while still maintaining curvature and they’ve made a world’s difference in appearance.

2. From having read through this forum, I picked up the sense that Dr. Jong’s removal in muscle gram quantity tends to be on the modest side compared to Dr. Park’s. Dr. Park’s promise of reduction in cm value were also reportedly much greater than Dr. Jong. While it sounds tempting, it also sounds risky.

The outcome of my legs so far aren’t the slimmest, but I think they are very proportional and go well with my body shape as a whole. I also believe if I shed some pounds of (fat) bodyweight, they’ll slim down as well. This happened to me two years ago, i found my calves much slimmer from fat loss. Plus, I’m sure when the skin starts to tighten up and shrink to close the ‘empty’ space, more reduction could be expected. I think the outcome of this surgery can be maximised by other efforts without sacrificing more muscle - because this in effect, would also affect recovery and function in the longer run, which is a risk I’m less willing to take.

It’s worth adding that I’m a firmer believer in great difference through subtle changes. When I’m fully healed, I want people to look at me and wonder, “hmm.. She looks better but I can’t put my finger on why…”; rather than “WHOA, WHERE THE HELL DID HER LEGS GO?! I SWEAR THEY DID NOT LOOK LIKE THAT BEFORE” :biggrin:
 
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