Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Ive just placed my very first SO. I am so excited that I have been given this opportunity .... but so worried about my choice. I have 24 hours to change anything if needed.
I choose - K28 Retourne Togo Blue Nuit with Rouge Garnet Lining, stictching and piping!
Have i overdone it with the stitching and piping? Should I just do one or the other (not sure if its possible to just do piping) Is this going to be more trendy than classic? Am I making the right choice?
This is my first Kelly and I want to it be a casual everyday bag. I am not very adventerous in the way I dress. I dont want my bag to be too much of a stand out, yet I still want it to look "special"
I would appreciate any advice or views on my choice - Thanks in advance :smile:
Hi there. To me the contrast piping looks a bit sportier. I love the look. However if you want more subtle you could also just do contrast stiching (which I love too). I think maybe choose just one or the other. Piping would look more distinct - I think you said you want it to look special, but not stand out. Have you looked at pictures of both types of bags? Maybe look at a few more pictures?
 
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Sharing my very first SO delivery here... my order was placed on 11/11/2017 and arrived yesterday 9/24/2018 = 10 months and 14 days

Specs:
K25 in Epsom Sellier
Gris mouette exterior
Gris fonce stitching (just a smidge darker than Gris mouette but same tone)
Rose azalee interior
Brushed palladium hardware
85cm length strap (slightly longer than the regular ones for k25)

I was so excited to unbox it with my SA and as soon as she took the bag out I was shocked to see the edge coat being chocolate brown!!! My SA was a little confused too considering Gris mouette has always been paired with black edge paint, and this bag is completely cool and steely on the outside, she took it to the in-house repair to check with the craftsman on site. He told my SA for characteristics not listed on the “menu” (i.e. edge paint color not an option for the client to choose), it is always up to the craftsman to decide what is best and suitable for the project, and H repair cannot change the colors once it is completed.

My SA was sympathetic and gently reminded me that I didn’t have to accept the SO, but I did anyway bc I really wanted to stay on their good graces and continue to have the opportunity to place orders...

Here it is, what do you guys think? Keep it as-is or would I be able to take the bag somewhere to have the edge paint re-coated to black? I own a C18 epsom in Gris Mouette as well as a Calvi epsom in Rose Azalee and both items have black edge paint, so I’m super confused and a little disappointed why this would happen to my SO...

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Thanks for the confirmation
Strange that member here can do ruthenium this round

Hi all thanks for clarifying.

When we did our SO we went by looks and not codes, what looks like gunmetal to us (hence I keep using this word) could be very well one of the non-gold options listed above. It was not black as in like noir. We just saw a gunmetal looking option. When we placed our SO we already knew what we want and this was done over lunch so we went in and left, didn't bother with all the other options. Just sharing what we saw and apologies if that caused any confusion. Didn't mean to but what looks gunmetal to us could very well be NOT to soemone else.

I'll be sure to check the actual names next time.
 
Sharing my very first SO delivery here... my order was placed on 11/11/2017 and arrived yesterday 9/24/2018 = 10 months and 14 days

Specs:
K25 in Epsom Sellier
Gris mouette exterior
Gris fonce stitching (just a smidge darker than Gris mouette but same tone)
Rose azalee interior
Brushed palladium hardware
85cm length strap (slightly longer than the regular ones for k25)

I was so excited to unbox it with my SA and as soon as she took the bag out I was shocked to see the edge coat being chocolate brown!!! My SA was a little confused too considering Gris mouette has always been paired with black edge paint, and this bag is completely cool and steely on the outside, she took it to the in-house repair to check with the craftsman on site. He told my SA for characteristics not listed on the “menu” (i.e. edge paint color not an option for the client to choose), it is always up to the craftsman to decide what is best and suitable for the project, and H repair cannot change the colors once it is completed.

My SA was sympathetic and gently reminded me that I didn’t have to accept the SO, but I did anyway bc I really wanted to stay on their good graces and continue to have the opportunity to place orders...

Here it is, what do you guys think? Keep it as-is or would I be able to take the bag somewhere to have the edge paint re-coated to black? I own a C18 epsom in Gris Mouette as well as a Calvi epsom in Rose Azalee and both items have black edge paint, so I’m super confused and a little disappointed why this would happen to my SO...

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It looks wonderful! I would keep it. I think the artist made a great decision. It looks less stark than black would have looked and also looks really good with the pink; the brown warms up the grey a little bit.
I think you should compare side by side with your C18 to see (and photograph) the difference and then make up your mind. However if this was my bag I’d keep it.
 
Sharing my very first SO delivery here... my order was placed on 11/11/2017 and arrived yesterday 9/24/2018 = 10 months and 14 days

Specs:
K25 in Epsom Sellier
Gris mouette exterior
Gris fonce stitching (just a smidge darker than Gris mouette but same tone)
Rose azalee interior
Brushed palladium hardware
85cm length strap (slightly longer than the regular ones for k25)

I was so excited to unbox it with my SA and as soon as she took the bag out I was shocked to see the edge coat being chocolate brown!!! My SA was a little confused too considering Gris mouette has always been paired with black edge paint, and this bag is completely cool and steely on the outside, she took it to the in-house repair to check with the craftsman on site. He told my SA for characteristics not listed on the “menu” (i.e. edge paint color not an option for the client to choose), it is always up to the craftsman to decide what is best and suitable for the project, and H repair cannot change the colors once it is completed.

My SA was sympathetic and gently reminded me that I didn’t have to accept the SO, but I did anyway bc I really wanted to stay on their good graces and continue to have the opportunity to place orders...

Here it is, what do you guys think? Keep it as-is or would I be able to take the bag somewhere to have the edge paint re-coated to black? I own a C18 epsom in Gris Mouette as well as a Calvi epsom in Rose Azalee and both items have black edge paint, so I’m super confused and a little disappointed why this would happen to my SO...

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Oh wow! I was so pleasantly surprised with the edge coat color, I thought you had specify that and thought that was really unique to do so! I think it goes really well with the bag and adds a little oomph element to it. Looks stunning and congrats! Hope you end up keeping it :)
 
Sharing my very first SO delivery here... my order was placed on 11/11/2017 and arrived yesterday 9/24/2018 = 10 months and 14 days

Specs:
K25 in Epsom Sellier
Gris mouette exterior
Gris fonce stitching (just a smidge darker than Gris mouette but same tone)
Rose azalee interior
Brushed palladium hardware
85cm length strap (slightly longer than the regular ones for k25)

I was so excited to unbox it with my SA and as soon as she took the bag out I was shocked to see the edge coat being chocolate brown!!! My SA was a little confused too considering Gris mouette has always been paired with black edge paint, and this bag is completely cool and steely on the outside, she took it to the in-house repair to check with the craftsman on site. He told my SA for characteristics not listed on the “menu” (i.e. edge paint color not an option for the client to choose), it is always up to the craftsman to decide what is best and suitable for the project, and H repair cannot change the colors once it is completed.

My SA was sympathetic and gently reminded me that I didn’t have to accept the SO, but I did anyway bc I really wanted to stay on their good graces and continue to have the opportunity to place orders...

Here it is, what do you guys think? Keep it as-is or would I be able to take the bag somewhere to have the edge paint re-coated to black? I own a C18 epsom in Gris Mouette as well as a Calvi epsom in Rose Azalee and both items have black edge paint, so I’m super confused and a little disappointed why this would happen to my SO...

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I think the edge color compliments the intersection of grey and pink beautifully. Definitely keep!
 
Hi all thanks for clarifying.

When we did our SO we went by looks and not codes, what looks like gunmetal to us (hence I keep using this word) could be very well one of the non-gold options listed above. It was not black as in like noir. We just saw a gunmetal looking option. When we placed our SO we already knew what we want and this was done over lunch so we went in and left, didn't bother with all the other options. Just sharing what we saw and apologies if that caused any confusion. Didn't mean to but what looks gunmetal to us could very well be NOT to soemone else.

I'll be sure to check the actual names next time.
My guess is that you saw brushed palladium as gunmetal.
 
Hi everyone,

Need some advice on Clemence vs. Togo leather for my upcoming SO B25. Will Clemence leather eventually get floppy and relaxed in this small size or will the leather remain structured like Togo? I've heard different opinions. Thanks!
 
Hi everyone,

Need some advice on Clemence vs. Togo leather for my upcoming SO B25. Will Clemence leather eventually get floppy and relaxed in this small size or will the leather remain structured like Togo? I've heard different opinions. Thanks!
I have both togo and clemence in b30. Had good luck with both retaining shape. No significant difference between the two. Always store them on their backs appropriately stuffed. In the 25 size, you will probably find little difference between the two down the road. HTH
 
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Hi everyone,

Need some advice on Clemence vs. Togo leather for my upcoming SO B25. Will Clemence leather eventually get floppy and relaxed in this small size or will the leather remain structured like Togo? I've heard different opinions. Thanks!

I suggest you use the search button and look for the two leathers. You will see lots of information (pros and cons) about them. It really boils down to personal preference. IMHO, togo can get soft and clemence doesn't always get floppy. They are very much alike in that way.

I prefer the soft hand and sheen of clemence (I own multiple bags in each).
 
Sharing my very first SO delivery here... my order was placed on 11/11/2017 and arrived yesterday 9/24/2018 = 10 months and 14 days

Specs:
K25 in Epsom Sellier
Gris mouette exterior
Gris fonce stitching (just a smidge darker than Gris mouette but same tone)
Rose azalee interior
Brushed palladium hardware
85cm length strap (slightly longer than the regular ones for k25)

I was so excited to unbox it with my SA and as soon as she took the bag out I was shocked to see the edge coat being chocolate brown!!! My SA was a little confused too considering Gris mouette has always been paired with black edge paint, and this bag is completely cool and steely on the outside, she took it to the in-house repair to check with the craftsman on site. He told my SA for characteristics not listed on the “menu” (i.e. edge paint color not an option for the client to choose), it is always up to the craftsman to decide what is best and suitable for the project, and H repair cannot change the colors once it is completed.

My SA was sympathetic and gently reminded me that I didn’t have to accept the SO, but I did anyway bc I really wanted to stay on their good graces and continue to have the opportunity to place orders...

Here it is, what do you guys think? Keep it as-is or would I be able to take the bag somewhere to have the edge paint re-coated to black? I own a C18 epsom in Gris Mouette as well as a Calvi epsom in Rose Azalee and both items have black edge paint, so I’m super confused and a little disappointed why this would happen to my SO...

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Wow, I love it. I would keep it. The paint color is in harmony with the interior and exterior colors making the bag very unique.
 
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