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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Ok, so the chart extends from the left side - Thank you.
What if I want a different color thread? Ok if it's on the thread list?
Should be fine unless Paris denies, and you have exquisite taste so of course it will go through :)
I did Graphite thread on Noir Togo in my first SO and Cobalt on Noir in my most recent, neither was related to the lining.
 
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Thanks so much. [emoji8] I would like to try to match the stitch to the interior color [emoji1374]
You are going to LOVE the contrast stitch. Sometimes you can get the effect of a matching stitch better by using a slightly different thread (that's why I used Cobalt thread instead of Bleu Saphir - BS is bright in chèvre but dark as a thread, and Cobalt will look like it matches).
Lay the thread sample along the leather swatch and you will get a good idea <3
 
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I have gone to the last few pages of this thread to look at my options for this season (I typically don't get time to think through and have to decide on the spot so I thought I'd better be prepared just in case I am asked - I haven't been but there have been hints) and would be grateful for thoughts on the following options. I only want to do Version 2 (interior a different colour and contrast stitch) of a noir chevre kelly 28cm sellier.

1a) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
1b) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
1c) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

2a) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
2b) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
2c) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

3) Interior: Jaune d'or, contrast stitch: lime brushed ghw OR brushed phw

I am leaning towards either 1a) or 2a) at the moment because I saw a fellow TPFer's black birkin with Rose Lipstick lining and stitching and it is gorgeous. I also saw the pic of the black kelly with the mistaken rouge vif stitching and it looked wonderful as well. And of course the recent SO of @weN84 . At the same time, I am quite taken in by the double SOs of @audreylita which is in the absence of white thread closest to 1c). Decisions decisions decisions. I know if I were to be called to the boutique I would have to decide there and then so would really appreciate comments by TPFers as I'm horrible at creative things like these (as you can see, I take inspiration from all the wonderful pictures that have been posted and am by myself quite unoriginal). Thanks in advance!
 
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You are going to LOVE the contrast stitch. Sometimes you can get the effect of a matching stitch better by using a slightly different thread (that's why I used Cobalt thread instead of Bleu Saphir - BS is bright in chèvre but dark as a thread, and Cobalt will look like it matches).
Lay the thread sample along the leather swatch and you will get a good idea <3

Thank you so much, QF. [emoji254][emoji254][emoji254] that's why it might be rose lipstick stitch instead of jaipur. Also considering just a natural/white stitch - whatever pops against the blue but doesn't make the bag difficult to wear. And I want to make sure that whatever I select gets accepted!
 
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I have gone to the last few pages of this thread to look at my options for this season (I typically don't get time to think through and have to decide on the spot so I thought I'd better be prepared just in case I am asked - I haven't been but there have been hints) and would be grateful for thoughts on the following options. I only want to do Version 2 (interior a different colour and contrast stitch) of a noir chevre kelly 28cm sellier.

1a) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
1b) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
1c) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

2a) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
2b) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
2c) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

3) Interior: Jaune d'or, contrast stitch: lime brushed ghw OR brushed phw

I am leaning towards either 1a) or 2a) at the moment because I saw a fellow TPFer's black birkin with Rose Lipstick lining and stitching and it is gorgeous. I also saw the pic of the black kelly with the mistaken rouge vif stitching and it looked wonderful as well. And of course the recent SO of @weN84 . At the same time, I am quite taken in by the double SOs of @audreylita which is in the absence of white thread closest to 1c). Decisions decisions decisions. I know if I were to be called to the boutique I would have to decide there and then so would really appreciate comments by TPFers as I'm horrible at creative things like these (as you can see, I take inspiration from all the wonderful pictures that have been posted and am by myself quite unoriginal). Thanks in advance!

Of the choices 1a is my favorite [emoji4]. I think craie or parchemin contrast stitch (like white/off white) in general makes a bag look more casual... just my personal opinion of course!
 
I have gone to the last few pages of this thread to look at my options for this season (I typically don't get time to think through and have to decide on the spot so I thought I'd better be prepared just in case I am asked - I haven't been but there have been hints) and would be grateful for thoughts on the following options. I only want to do Version 2 (interior a different colour and contrast stitch) of a noir chevre kelly 28cm sellier.

1a) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
1b) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
1c) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

2a) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
2b) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
2c) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

3) Interior: Jaune d'or, contrast stitch: lime brushed ghw OR brushed phw

I am leaning towards either 1a) or 2a) at the moment because I saw a fellow TPFer's black birkin with Rose Lipstick lining and stitching and it is gorgeous. I also saw the pic of the black kelly with the mistaken rouge vif stitching and it looked wonderful as well. And of course the recent SO of @weN84 . At the same time, I am quite taken in by the double SOs of @audreylita which is in the absence of white thread closest to 1c). Decisions decisions decisions. I know if I were to be called to the boutique I would have to decide there and then so would really appreciate comments by TPFers as I'm horrible at creative things like these (as you can see, I take inspiration from all the wonderful pictures that have been posted and am by myself quite unoriginal). Thanks in advance!

Of the choices 1a is my favorite [emoji4]. I think craie or parchemin contrast stitch (like white/off white) in general makes a bag look more casual... just my personal opinion of course!

I agree with @carlinha that a white or off white stitching with white makes the bag look more casual. If that is what you are going for, by all means go for it.
I also have seen pinkish contrast stitching on noir and it also makes the bag a bit more casual too. I would go with noir exterior, rose Jaipur interior, no contrast stitching (or maybe graphite if you really want contrast) and brushed hardware of your preference. Good luck deciding and congrats!
 
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I have gone to the last few pages of this thread to look at my options for this season (I typically don't get time to think through and have to decide on the spot so I thought I'd better be prepared just in case I am asked - I haven't been but there have been hints) and would be grateful for thoughts on the following options. I only want to do Version 2 (interior a different colour and contrast stitch) of a noir chevre kelly 28cm sellier.

1a) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
1b) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
1c) Interior: Rose Jaipur, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

2a) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: rose azalea, brushed ghw
2b) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: vermillon OR tomate, brushed ghw
2c) Interior: Vermillon, contrast stitch: craie OR parchemin, brushed phw

3) Interior: Jaune d'or, contrast stitch: lime brushed ghw OR brushed phw

I am leaning towards either 1a) or 2a) at the moment because I saw a fellow TPFer's black birkin with Rose Lipstick lining and stitching and it is gorgeous. I also saw the pic of the black kelly with the mistaken rouge vif stitching and it looked wonderful as well. And of course the recent SO of @weN84 . At the same time, I am quite taken in by the double SOs of @audreylita which is in the absence of white thread closest to 1c). Decisions decisions decisions. I know if I were to be called to the boutique I would have to decide there and then so would really appreciate comments by TPFers as I'm horrible at creative things like these (as you can see, I take inspiration from all the wonderful pictures that have been posted and am by myself quite unoriginal). Thanks in advance!
I love pink stitching on a noir bag - it's quite special. Naturel/Craie/etc. will look a little more casual and I think you're right that it will pair netter with PHW.
In a sellier remember you're "outlining" the entire structure of the bag so the stitching makes a bigger impact than in retourné.
 
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Thank you so much, QF. [emoji254][emoji254][emoji254] that's why it might be rose lipstick stitch instead of jaipur. Also considering just a natural/white stitch - whatever pops against the blue but doesn't make the bag difficult to wear. And I want to make sure that whatever I select gets accepted!
I think rose lipstick would be amazing for stitching. Usually stitching isn't blazingly obvious from a distance...as you know I had a bag with pink contrast stitching (that's all I'm gonna say about that :p) and it wasn't visible from, say, five feet away. Pink on Hydra will be more visible but should still be wearable - I mean - it's already a "pop" bag! It will be lovely.
 
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I was with my sis last week when she placed her SO in paris. Was really pushing her to do a chèvre, since this is her first SO offer. We have too many blues between us sisters so the blue hydra, paon and sapphire were out. Tried to do a raisin chèvre but it was so so dark.
In the end, she chose a Togo combo.

Did your sister place her SO at FSH? My SA at George V told me today that SOs haven't opened yet this year. She said they have a three-week ordering period twice a year but never know (in advance) when those three weeks will be. I wonder if George V has different SO timeline than FSH, and whether FSH is still accepting SOs now.
 
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My mom S.O. on ostrich was declined as my SA said their store wasn't allocated any S.O. ostrich quota. So only regular leather S.O. only. Does this happens? The store is in a smaller scale size store.
 
Just wanted to share this here. My MAC shopping bag appears to be an SO with Lime interior [emoji12]

My bag specs are 30cm Black Chevre with Tosca interior, GHW. View attachment 3666618

Wowowowow!! I wish Tosca was still available!

Did your sister place her SO at FSH? My SA at George V told me today that SOs haven't opened yet this year. She said they have a three-week ordering period twice a year but never know (in advance) when those three weeks will be. I wonder if George V has different SO timeline than FSH, and whether FSH is still accepting SOs now.

Hmmmmmm. I just picked up an SO from GV. When I placed it the order period was two months long, mid March to mid May, just like FSH, but things change. Both FSH and GV are still accepting SOs AFAIK.

My mom S.O. on ostrich was declined as my SA said their store wasn't allocated any S.O. ostrich quota. So only regular leather S.O. only. Does this happens? The store is in a smaller scale size store.

Yes, exotic SOs can be limited in some stores.
 
:wave: hi,

I got assigned to a new SA (new to me, since my SA left the store a few weeks ago). Still no news on my pending SO. They are checking for it but said it should be ok. Fingers crossed as Swift atop, bleu paon inside for me is super special.
Nevertheless I asked if I could order a pop color. I could, but she said they have not received the colors yet - is that possible? So we sticked to guessing and using other leather goods to compare colors. I ended up with orange poppy ousting, rouge grenade inside, brushed ghw.
Today she told my order would be fine. She checked and colors are ok.

In parallel I looked up the available colors for Togo here and did to found any orange poppy.. so I am confused again.

Is that possible?
 
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