Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
My apologies if this has been asked before - if I placed my order this year and it arrives next year, will I pay the old price or the new one?
Unfortunately we have seen examples of both being true so you won’t find a clear answer here. Historically, you pay the current price at time of payment but some people (myself included) have had at least one SO charged the price from a prior year.
 
Unfortunately we have seen examples of both being true so you won’t find a clear answer here. Historically, you pay the current price at time of payment but some people (myself included) have had at least one SO charged the price from a prior year.
I was offered a SO that the original creator turned down this year and I was charged the price from last year. I was pleasantly surprised.
 
My apologies if this has been asked before - if I placed my order this year and it arrives next year, will I pay the old price or the new one?
When I placed my order last week I was told that I would pay the price at the time of delivery, which I hope will be 2025 and not 2026... 🤞 I was hoping it would be the 2024 price since it seems like I used this year's quota to place the order, but the SA said that would be unlikely.
 
I think best practice is to budget for the new pricing and if you get the previous pricing, then consider that a "discount"!
💯. And when you think about it, the price at time of delivery makes sense. You are not under an obligation to buy your SO, and no contract arises until it arrives, is offered to you and you accept it. But it’s interesting if an SO comes out of a quota in the year it is ordered, does that mean it does not come out of a quota in the year it is accepted?
 
💯. And when you think about it, the price at time of delivery makes sense. You are not under an obligation to buy your SO, and no contract arises until it arrives, is offered to you and you accept it. But it’s interesting if an SO comes out of a quota in the year it is ordered, does that mean it does not come out of a quota in the year it is accepted?
Interesting. I assumed it was quota the year it is accepted . . .
 
If an SO comes out of a quota in the year it is ordered, does that mean it does not come out of a quota in the year it is accepted?
I am not completely sure that this is true, it just seemed that way to me because I had to choose between a B25 or the SO during my appointment and when I made a joke about still getting the B25 before the end of the year if I came back the next day, the SA chuckled and said something along the lines of "you mean when you come back next year, at least in January".
 
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💯. And when you think about it, the price at time of delivery makes sense. You are not under an obligation to buy your SO, and no contract arises until it arrives, is offered to you and you accept it. But it’s interesting if an SO comes out of a quota in the year it is ordered, does that mean it does not come out of a quota in the year it is accepted?
An a la carte bag that is a quota bag (ie Birkin or Kelly) counts as a quota bag against the purchaser’s limit in the year of which it is paid for. Regardless of price. Full stop.
 
My apologies if this has been asked before - if I placed my order this year and it arrives next year, will I pay the old price or the new one?
If it is in France, you will pay the price when you placed the order. This price is only honored if it's bought by the same account that the order was placed under.

I found this out as I placed my last received SO under my French address account, but then decided to purchase it with my US address account since I was bringing it back to US and wanted the VAT refund. The SO rang as the 2023 price under one account and the 2024 price under the other account. My SA was startled and ended up taking the difference off as a discount. The difference was over 1k for a Kelly 28.

It looks like each country has different ways of handling this, but in France, you are charged the price when you order it.
 
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