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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Sorry if this has already been answered or the wrong place to ask.
What is the allotment process for SAs to offer SO? In casual conversation with my SA, I mentioned that I'm interested in SO, and the impression I got from the response was that they were trying to tell me it would be very unlikely for me to do a SO at that store. Now I have been shopping with them for a while, this is the only store I shop, I'd like to believe that I have a healthy profile in frequency and amount spent (at least about 7:1 in non-leather past year), and have gotten some nice QBs. While there's not really a SO combo that I'm dying to have from the most recent offerings and I'm ok with just getting regular QB off my wishlist for now, this response was still a bit disheartening to hear. Could it be that my SA appears to be on the more junior end of the seniority in the store and has none to very little SO spots, or I am not as special of a customer as I'd like to think haha? They did mention that SO were for customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store haha whatever that means, but from this forum it seems there are at least a few who made SO with less spend than me (at the same store).
 
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Sorry if this has already been answered or the wrong place to ask.
What is the allotment process for SAs to offer SO? In a casual conversation with my SA, I mentioned that I'm interested in SO, and the impression I got from the response was that they were trying to tell me it would be very unlikely for me to do an SO at that store. Now I have been shopping with them for a while, this is the only store I shop at, and I'd like to believe that I have a healthy profile in frequency and amount spent (at least about 7:1 in non-leather past year) and have gotten some nice Q. While there's not a SO combo that I'm dying to have from the most recent offerings and I'm ok with just getting regular QB off my wishlist for now, this response was still a bit disheartening to hear. Could it be that my SA appears to be on the more junior end of the seniority in the store and has none to very few SO spots, or I am not as special of a customer as I'd like to think haha? They did mention that SO was for customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store haha whatever that means, but from this forum it seems there are at least a few who made SO with less spending than me (at the same store).
I think that it depends on many factors. Spending is not always the main factor when it comes to Hermes, it helps when you have healthy spending at the store but you also need to sweet talk your way into some of the things you need to score.

From my own experience, I think that when you show interest in doing an SO it's better to discuss it with your SA by explaining how you are looking for a bag that feels personal to you, like mentioning that you love a certain colour or leather type that it's very hard to find in the specs you are looking for. Also when you start declining some bag offers because the specs aren't something you are looking for and a good period has passed since you have accepted any offer then the SA might think maybe the only way to fulfil my client's wish is by offering her an SO slot.

Again nothing is certain with Hermes but usually good things happen to those who wait.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered or the wrong place to ask.
What is the allotment process for SAs to offer SO? In casual conversation with my SA, I mentioned that I'm interested in SO, and the impression I got from the response was that they were trying to tell me it would be very unlikely for me to do a SO at that store. Now I have been shopping with them for a while, this is the only store I shop, I'd like to believe that I have a healthy profile in frequency and amount spent (at least about 7:1 in non-leather past year), and have gotten some nice QBs. While there's not really a SO combo that I'm dying to have from the most recent offerings and I'm ok with just getting regular QB off my wishlist for now, this response was still a bit disheartening to hear. Could it be that my SA appears to be on the more junior end of the seniority in the store and has none to very little SO spots, or I am not as special of a customer as I'd like to think haha? They did mention that SO were for customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store haha whatever that means, but from this forum it seems there are at least a few who made SO with less spend than me (at the same store).
I shop in the US. My SA (more on the junior side) can nominate 2 SO slots per year. The store manager still gets to approve or decline the request. My SA said he doesn’t always nominate 2 per year, because in some cases he feels that the client won’t get approved and it’s not worth trying.
I was recently offered a SO slot, and in my case it was more timing than anything. I was told I’m approved for a SO, but I need to place the order within a few days. I think in that situation, my willingness to drop everything I was doing and running to H was much more important than any other factor :biggrin:
 
Sorry if this has already been answered or the wrong place to ask.
What is the allotment process for SAs to offer SO? In casual conversation with my SA, I mentioned that I'm interested in SO, and the impression I got from the response was that they were trying to tell me it would be very unlikely for me to do a SO at that store. Now I have been shopping with them for a while, this is the only store I shop, I'd like to believe that I have a healthy profile in frequency and amount spent (at least about 7:1 in non-leather past year), and have gotten some nice QBs. While there's not really a SO combo that I'm dying to have from the most recent offerings and I'm ok with just getting regular QB off my wishlist for now, this response was still a bit disheartening to hear. Could it be that my SA appears to be on the more junior end of the seniority in the store and has none to very little SO spots, or I am not as special of a customer as I'd like to think haha? They did mention that SO were for customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store haha whatever that means, but from this forum it seems there are at least a few who made SO with less spend than me (at the same store).
Each SA should roughly have the same number of SO slots available and then the store/ SM will reserve a handful of spots for elite clients and/or last minute special circumstances offers. I believe your store in particular still holds strongly to policy of offering SOs to multi year clients who have yet to be given the opportunity. 3-4 year minimum profile length, from my experience.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered or the wrong place to ask.
What is the allotment process for SAs to offer SO? In casual conversation with my SA, I mentioned that I'm interested in SO, and the impression I got from the response was that they were trying to tell me it would be very unlikely for me to do a SO at that store. Now I have been shopping with them for a while, this is the only store I shop, I'd like to believe that I have a healthy profile in frequency and amount spent (at least about 7:1 in non-leather past year), and have gotten some nice QBs. While there's not really a SO combo that I'm dying to have from the most recent offerings and I'm ok with just getting regular QB off my wishlist for now, this response was still a bit disheartening to hear. Could it be that my SA appears to be on the more junior end of the seniority in the store and has none to very little SO spots, or I am not as special of a customer as I'd like to think haha? They did mention that SO were for customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store haha whatever that means, but from this forum it seems there are at least a few who made SO with less spend than me (at the same store).
I feel like at H the SAs first response is is often a no as a defense mechanism. They just don’t want to be over promising anything. Keep mentioning it.
 
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Sorry if this has already been answered or the wrong place to ask.
What is the allotment process for SAs to offer SO? In casual conversation with my SA, I mentioned that I'm interested in SO, and the impression I got from the response was that they were trying to tell me it would be very unlikely for me to do a SO at that store. Now I have been shopping with them for a while, this is the only store I shop, I'd like to believe that I have a healthy profile in frequency and amount spent (at least about 7:1 in non-leather past year), and have gotten some nice QBs. While there's not really a SO combo that I'm dying to have from the most recent offerings and I'm ok with just getting regular QB off my wishlist for now, this response was still a bit disheartening to hear. Could it be that my SA appears to be on the more junior end of the seniority in the store and has none to very little SO spots, or I am not as special of a customer as I'd like to think haha? They did mention that SO were for customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store haha whatever that means, but from this forum it seems there are at least a few who made SO with less spend than me (at the same store).

It's probably a combo of all of these things. Have you been working with this store more than a year? Time is a factor.
Also, not sure what "7:1" means if you're not referencing a specific bag goal, but if that's, say, a $90K USD spend, depending on your store, that should (very generally) make you a great candidate for iconic bags but not for SO.

Less senior SAs who are not leather specialists usually have 1-2 SO slots to offer up for approval each season, and if your store is reasonably large, that's a lot of competition. The line they gave you: customers who have really "helped out and made significant contributions" to the store -which is hilarious btw, is this a charitable foundation? - makes me think your store is very focused on spend. (ETA: I mention this because in general, I have found that SO allocation criteria vary VERY widely from store to store.)

If you're happy with your SA, they now know you want an SO; I'd bide your time and enjoy the process. If you see something in the new SO menu that blows your doors off, that's worth mentioning, as in "I heard that the Kelly Lettre is back available for SO and that's a dream bag for me" or "Gosh, I've always wanted a bag in Bleu Glacier Clemence and seems like that's A La Carte only".
 
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For those of you with experience getting an SO from FSH, do you find that it's easier to get an SO if you have an established history at the store? I live in the US but shop primarily in France. When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, the SA who helped me looked at my profile and told me that FSH is considered my home store (Me: Really? Who knew? :happydance:)

When I mentioned the QBs I was interested in, she told me that none of those colors were in production. So, I asked her about doing an SO, even though I know my chances were slim to none. She responsed, "Oh no, you could easily get an SO but you have to come between February-October to avoid the holidays." I was kinda shocked that she made it seem so simple.
 
For those of you with experience getting an SO from FSH, do you find that it's easier to get an SO if you have an established history at the store? I live in the US but shop primarily in France. When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, the SA who helped me looked at my profile and told me that FSH is considered my home store (Me: Really? Who knew? :happydance:)

When I mentioned the QBs I was interested in, she told me that none of those colors were in production. So, I asked her about doing an SO, even though I know my chances were slim to none. She responsed, "Oh no, you could easily get an SO but you have to come between February-October to avoid the holidays." I was kinda shocked that she made it seem so simple.
Definitely go back during the window she suggested and give it a try. I do believe FSH (and all other stores now honestly) do them year round now so I suspect this was her gentle way of saying “no” but it will be different for every individual client-SA relationship. That being said, more than a few forumers have gotten SOs from FSH with very young relationships so it’s certainly possible.
 
Definitely go back during the window she suggested and give it a try. I do believe FSH (and all other stores now honestly) do them year round now so I suspect this was her gentle way of saying “no” but it will be different for every individual client-SA relationship. That being said, more than a few forumers have gotten SOs from FSH with very young relationships so it’s certainly possible.
Yeah, I know there are exceptions to every H rule. She was refreshingly direct and honest during our conversation. I was going to try in June but I'll be avoiding Paris this summer due to the Olympics. My next trip is planned for November. Fingers crossed.
 
Yeah, I know there are exceptions to every H rule. She was refreshingly direct and honest during our conversation. I was going to try in June but I'll be avoiding Paris this summer due to the Olympics. My next trip is planned for November. Fingers crossed.
Having had this conversation, it's definitely worth you enquiring right? Even if years ago my first SO at FSH was offered with hardly any non- bag purchase history, we have read that some have been just as fortunate recently.
 
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For those of you with experience getting an SO from FSH, do you find that it's easier to get an SO if you have an established history at the store? I live in the US but shop primarily in France. When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, the SA who helped me looked at my profile and told me that FSH is considered my home store (Me: Really? Who knew? :happydance:)

When I mentioned the QBs I was interested in, she told me that none of those colors were in production. So, I asked her about doing an SO, even though I know my chances were slim to none. She responsed, "Oh no, you could easily get an SO but you have to come between February-October to avoid the holidays." I was kinda shocked that she made it seem so simple.
I got offered a SO at FSH with almost no purchase history. My SA also told me that the window is currently ‚closed‘ and they have no slots left but they will open it as soon as the new colors come out (end of January/ beginning of February).
Good Luck!
 
I got offered a SO at FSH with almost no purchase history. My SA also told me that the window is currently ‚closed‘ and they have no slots left but they will open it as soon as the new colors come out (end of January/ beginning of February).
Good Luck!
Yes, this is how it works in Paris. We have SO season all year round (in all three stores, not just FSH) - BUT once the slots are all allocated, there is usually a "closed" period which varies from store to store. Doesn't mean it's not SO season, just means there's not an open allocation.
 
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