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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
So did they cancelled all the blue brume so? Did anyone got their blue brume so? My sales hasn’t say anything about the cancellation. I placed my so in March, I’m kinda worry..

Unfortunately so it appears, all BB have been cancelled.

I was notified a couple of months ago when I visited the store - mine was in chèvre. I have seen though some resellers on IG that were selling some SO's of MK and B25 in the combo BB/RK multico - so perhaps there's hope for some of us?

Do ask your SA again, maybe they're still waiting to receive the final confirmation from Paris of all SO's submitted from your store.
 
As has been mentioned several times in this thread, the color charts are not being changed from the colorama 2022 of last year (minus the choice of Bleu Brume in any leather due to color bleeding issues).
I have a doubt about this. I received my first invitation to do my SO in July (late 2022 season) and I ended up declining it because although my SA initially showed me the official list of all the colors of 2022, after asking the stock manager they he confirm him several colors already not longer available, including the two that I they liked, and I understood that the reason is they running out of that leather.

So, if there are not going to be new colors for 2023, does it mean that the previously sold-out colors are available again? Or tha certain combinations can be made in theory but then in practice they will be cancelled?
 
I have a doubt about this. I received my first invitation to do my SO in July (late 2022 season) and I ended up declining it because although my SA initially showed me the official list of all the colors of 2022, after asking the stock manager they he confirm him several colors already not longer available, including the two that I they liked, and I understood that the reason is they running out of that leather.

So, if there are not going to be new colors for 2023, does it mean that the previously sold-out colors are available again? Or tha certain combinations can be made in theory but then in practice they will be cancelled?
Dozens of people have already shared here and on other social media channels that they have placed a SO this month, the colors were not updated, and Bleu brume was the only one removed (with pictures also to support this). This is the first I’m hearing anywhere of additional colors not being allowed. I would be interested to hear which colors you are referring to. Also, your store seems to have weird rules that most other stores don’t, like specifying exactly which bag model a client is allowed to SO, so it’s hard to say exactly what’s going on in your case (would love to know the store/region for future reference that things are done differently there). Unfortunately SAs often give bad info either out of ignorance or just unchecked assumptions so in my opinion is it always wise to side with actions vs speech and there always seems to be random rumors (“rose sakura has run out”) that don’t come to fruition when further clients at a different store successfully order and receive it. Also, leather is constantly being ”manufactured” and replenished so even if it were “sold out” in July, that doesnt mean it won’t have been “restocked“ by whenever the artisan sits down to construct the bag several months later. Bleu Brume was removed due to quality in manufacturing issues not stock supply.
 
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Hi, sorry if it is off topic… what was the problem with Bleu Brume, I just got a bag in chèvre in Bleu Brume, what do I need to look for?
 
Dozens of people have already shared here and on other social media channels that they have placed a SO this month, the colors were not updated, and Bleu brume was the only one removed (with pictures also to support this). This is the first I’m hearing anywhere of additional colors not being allowed. I would be interested to hear which colors you are referring to. Also, your store seems to have weird rules that most other stores don’t, like specifying exactly which bag model a client is allowed to SO, so it’s hard to say exactly what’s going on in your case (would love to know the store/region for future reference that things are done differently there). Unfortunately SAs often give bad info either out of ignorance or just unchecked assumptions so in my opinion is it always wise to side with actions vs speech and there always seems to be random rumors (“rose sakura has run out”) that don’t come to fruition when further clients at a different store successfully order and receive it. Also, leather is constantly being ”manufactured” and replenished so even if it were “sold out” in July, that doesnt mean it won’t have been “restocked“ by whenever the artisan sits down to construct the bag several months later. Bleu Brume was removed due to quality in manufacturing issues not stock supply.
Thanks for your answer. I totally agree. Sorry if I don't express myself well in English, I trust this information from the forum and I only doubt the information they gave me in the store or my interpretation of it. I realized that the SA don't know everything and maybe he try his best but also got wrong information.

I detail a little more my case. My wife and I we are both clients and we had the intention of making an SO If possible (more a dream than real hope). Our SA offered one to us, but not to make any model we choose, but only give few specific choices about the model. In the end we decided that I would order a kelly depeches 36, the men's briefcase, because I've wanted one for a long time but I'm not interested in the more traditional colors.

My SA showed me the papers with the available colors, colorama 2022, and the samples, and we were looking at options. In the end I decided I wanted a two-tone version in togo, with the body either in gris tourtuele, or trench, although I also liked biscuit and pearl grey. For the secondary color I wasn't so sure if it was a dark one or also one of those.

My SA spent a lot of time helping me and he agreed with the choice, but at a certain point he went to ask inside to the stock manager a question and came back with a paper printed with the colors that, according to what they told him, I could choose from among all the colorama, and we assumed it was because some were out of stock. Although on that paper most of the colors Of colors a 2022 were there, 6 or 7 were missing and of the 4 that I liked, only the Biscuit remained. So I considered placing an order with Biscuit and in that case with the Alezan secondary color, but I don't like Alezan so much and I ended up deciding that if that was the only possible combination, I didn't take it, but he to make sure can’t order gris tortuelle because was my fav. And then my SA went inside again to ask and they confirmed that it was not posible.

In the end I rejected SO's offer and maybe it was just because of a mix-up in the store. I'm just feel sa bit sad thinking I lose the chance for a misunderstanding and doubt if I should insist on the store for another chance. That's why I wanted to share my question.
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For anyone who has been lucky enough to see these bags/colors irl may I ask your thoughts?
MK II in Chèvre Rose Sakura & Gris Tourterelle.
Soft Pinks are the only pop of color I love but if I were to be lucky enough to do a SO I’m not sure If I should go w a neutral MK or something fun & pretty like RS.
I know I don’t want black or gold Bc I hope to get those shades in K25 one day, so I’d like to do something a bit different for MK. And for HW I’m thinking permabrass?
Thanks so much for any opinions!

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I posted pic of my mini kelly HSS bags in ODE thread, there’s gris perle, Sakura and craie if you want to see the colors ☺️
I love Sakura most, mainly because I always love pink colors
 
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Thanks for your answer. I totally agree. Sorry if I don't express myself well in English, I trust this information from the forum and I only doubt the information they gave me in the store or my interpretation of it. I realized that the SA don't know everything and maybe he try his best but also got wrong information.

I detail a little more my case. My wife and I we are both clients and we had the intention of making an SO If possible (more a dream than real hope). Our SA offered one to us, but not to make any model we choose, but only give few specific choices about the model. In the end we decided that I would order a kelly depeches 36, the men's briefcase, because I've wanted one for a long time but I'm not interested in the more traditional colors.

My SA showed me the papers with the available colors, colorama 2022, and the samples, and we were looking at options. In the end I decided I wanted a two-tone version in togo, with the body either in gris tourtuele, or trench, although I also liked biscuit and pearl grey. For the secondary color I wasn't so sure if it was a dark one or also one of those.

My SA spent a lot of time helping me and he agreed with the choice, but at a certain point he went to ask inside to the stock manager a question and came back with a paper printed with the colors that, according to what they told him, I could choose from among all the colorama, and we assumed it was because some were out of stock. Although on that paper most of the colors Of colors a 2022 were there, 6 or 7 were missing and of the 4 that I liked, only the Biscuit remained. So I considered placing an order with Biscuit and in that case with the Alezan secondary color, but I don't like Alezan so much and I ended up deciding that if that was the only possible combination, I didn't take it, but he to make sure can’t order gris tortuelle because was my fav. And then my SA went inside again to ask and they confirmed that it was not posible.

In the end I rejected SO's offer and maybe it was just because of a mix-up in the store. I'm just feel sa bit sad thinking I lose the chance for a misunderstanding and doubt if I should insist on the store for another chance. That's why I wanted to share my question.
Best
Sorry to learn you have to reject your SO offer. So you said you didn't like Alezan so much, what about biscuit one colour or contrast interior?
 
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Thanks for your answer. I totally agree. Sorry if I don't express myself well in English, I trust this information from the forum and I only doubt the information they gave me in the store or my interpretation of it. I realized that the SA don't know everything and maybe he try his best but also got wrong information.

I detail a little more my case. My wife and I we are both clients and we had the intention of making an SO If possible (more a dream than real hope). Our SA offered one to us, but not to make any model we choose, but only give few specific choices about the model. In the end we decided that I would order a kelly depeches 36, the men's briefcase, because I've wanted one for a long time but I'm not interested in the more traditional colors.

My SA showed me the papers with the available colors, colorama 2022, and the samples, and we were looking at options. In the end I decided I wanted a two-tone version in togo, with the body either in gris tourtuele, or trench, although I also liked biscuit and pearl grey. For the secondary color I wasn't so sure if it was a dark one or also one of those.

My SA spent a lot of time helping me and he agreed with the choice, but at a certain point he went to ask inside to the stock manager a question and came back with a paper printed with the colors that, according to what they told him, I could choose from among all the colorama, and we assumed it was because some were out of stock. Although on that paper most of the colors Of colors a 2022 were there, 6 or 7 were missing and of the 4 that I liked, only the Biscuit remained. So I considered placing an order with Biscuit and in that case with the Alezan secondary color, but I don't like Alezan so much and I ended up deciding that if that was the only possible combination, I didn't take it, but he to make sure can’t order gris tortuelle because was my fav. And then my SA went inside again to ask and they confirmed that it was not posible.

In the end I rejected SO's offer and maybe it was just because of a mix-up in the store. I'm just feel sa bit sad thinking I lose the chance for a misunderstanding and doubt if I should insist on the store for another chance. That's why I wanted to share my question.
Best
I'm sorry this happened. I would ask for another chance and insist on a clear reason why you're being restricted on model and color. The only guess I can possibly have on the colors is that your store manager may have seen multico orders rejected before (neutral multicos are almost never rejected, but perhaps for this model they are conservative?).
Clearly you and your wife are excellent clients and you deserve to clearly understand your options.
 
Sorry to learn you have to reject your SO offer. So you said you didn't like Alezan so much, what about biscuit one colour or contrast interior?
Thanks. The truth is that I was pretty sure I wanted the bicolor option for this item.
In any case, although it was sad to reject the SO, I think I would not have been completely happy if I had finally acquired it in biscuit being not my first option, specially seeing now that there was no reason not to be able to do it in gris tourterelle
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Thanks for your answer. I totally agree. Sorry if I don't express myself well in English, I trust this information from the forum and I only doubt the information they gave me in the store or my interpretation of it. I realized that the SA don't know everything and maybe he try his best but also got wrong information.

I detail a little more my case. My wife and I we are both clients and we had the intention of making an SO If possible (more a dream than real hope). Our SA offered one to us, but not to make any model we choose, but only give few specific choices about the model. In the end we decided that I would order a kelly depeches 36, the men's briefcase, because I've wanted one for a long time but I'm not interested in the more traditional colors.

My SA showed me the papers with the available colors, colorama 2022, and the samples, and we were looking at options. In the end I decided I wanted a two-tone version in togo, with the body either in gris tourtuele, or trench, although I also liked biscuit and pearl grey. For the secondary color I wasn't so sure if it was a dark one or also one of those.

My SA spent a lot of time helping me and he agreed with the choice, but at a certain point he went to ask inside to the stock manager a question and came back with a paper printed with the colors that, according to what they told him, I could choose from among all the colorama, and we assumed it was because some were out of stock. Although on that paper most of the colors Of colors a 2022 were there, 6 or 7 were missing and of the 4 that I liked, only the Biscuit remained. So I considered placing an order with Biscuit and in that case with the Alezan secondary color, but I don't like Alezan so much and I ended up deciding that if that was the only possible combination, I didn't take it, but he to make sure can’t order gris tortuelle because was my fav. And then my SA went inside again to ask and they confirmed that it was not posible.

In the end I rejected SO's offer and maybe it was just because of a mix-up in the store. I'm just feel sa bit sad thinking I lose the chance for a misunderstanding and doubt if I should insist on the store for another chance. That's why I wanted to share my question.
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I'm so sorry you had this experience :sad:.

I can't speak for all boutiques but I'm wondering if a lot of the SO process is boutique/store manager dependent.

An acquaintance of mine was just offered an SO (in a USA boutique), but was told that for a Kelly Sellier style, she could ONLY choose from the epsom leather color options :confused1: We all know this to be incorrect, but her store insists on it, so how is one to argue.
 
I'm so sorry you had this experience :sad:.

I can't speak for all boutiques but I'm wondering if a lot of the SO process is boutique/store manager dependent.

An acquaintance of mine was just offered an SO (in a USA boutique), but was told that for a Kelly Sellier style, she could ONLY choose from the epsom leather color options :confused1: We all know this to be incorrect, but her store insists on it, so how is one to argue.
Not sure which size Kelly Sellier this person was requesting but it is true that Epsom is the only choice for size 32+ Kellys.
 
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