Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Does anyone know if so can be cancelled? I have one ordered in 2018 but still haven’t received. My sa doesn’t have update.
Yes, they can be cancelled by Paris for any or no particular reason. Ask your SA if they still see the order on your account, they won’t be able to give you an “update” but should be able to see it still pending. If it has vanished, it was likely silently cancelled by Paris. :(
 
Still confused. Next question: if outside is Togo what leather is the lining made of? Can i choose swift or mysore? And: if I go for ”verso” is the inner colour always in the entire inner part of the bag? I know it sounds strange to ask this question… Lol.
Right now I think of K in bleu saphire outside with capucine inside; or menthe inside. The other version is rouge casaque outside, but I don’t know what to pick for the inside. Mauve pâle? Help!!:confused1::facepalm:
If a do ”Line” in bleu saphire which contrast stitching? And for rouge casaque? TIA for any suggestions and pictures. :hbeat:
 
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Still confused. Next question: if outside is Togo what leather is the lining made of? Can i choose swift or mysore? And: if I go for ”verso” is the inner colour always in the entire inner part of the bag? I know it sounds strange to ask this question… Lol.
Right now I think of K in bleu saphire outside with capucine inside; or menthe inside. The other version is rouge casaque outside, but I don’t know what to pick for the inside. Mauve pâle? Help!!:confused1::facepalm:
If a do ”Line” in bleu saphire which contrast stitching? And for rouge casaque? TIA for any suggestions and pictures. :hbeat:
The inside is typically chevre but all you need to know is if you are doing a Verso, you pick exterior color from the exteriors list and interior color from the interiors list. If you are doing “line” model, interior color will be the same as whatever you pick for the exterior color (but you MUST change the stitching color from the default stitching color). If you do multico, you ignore the interior colors list and simply pick two colors from the same leather type from the exterior colors list. I don’t know what you mean by ”entire inner part of the bag” but yes? The entire inside of the bag (for Birkin) and below the inner flap seam for Kelly will be the “interior” color.
Neither menthe nor mauve pale are valid choices for interior colors.
 
Still confused. Next question: if outside is Togo what leather is the lining made of? Can i choose swift or mysore? And: if I go for ”verso” is the inner colour always in the entire inner part of the bag? I know it sounds strange to ask this question… Lol.
Right now I think of K in bleu saphire outside with capucine inside; or menthe inside. The other version is rouge casaque outside, but I don’t know what to pick for the inside. Mauve pâle? Help!!:confused1::facepalm:
If a do ”Line” in bleu saphire which contrast stitching? And for rouge casaque? TIA for any suggestions and pictures. :hbeat:
I know it's very overwhelming, lots of choices!

As @acrowcounted mentioned, you HAVE to choose from the available color list (currently Colorama 2022 unless you're shown the Colorama 2023 sheet), you're not free to just choose whatever color you want if it's not on the list.

The type of leather they use for the interior is not a choice, they will decide for you and usually use the same leather for a regular bag (chevre for B/K, lambskin for Constance); you just choose the color if you're doing a verso.

Bleu Saphir and Capucine sound great!

Have you read this article by our own @Notorious Pink ? I find it spot on and very helpful!
 
Congratulations !!!
@carlinha has given amazing advice. I would say that I'd choose a Kelly since the Constance is easier to buy retail (and the version you want isn't available for SO). Then sellier or retourne really drives the options you have.

I am personally a big fan of verso bags with contrast stitching. They have a little extra something on the outside (can be bright, can be subtle) but IMO are more wearable than multico. Once you decide on the model you are ordering, you can think about stitching and there are a couple great threads for that :smile:
I agree, I love contrast stitching with a verso! That's my favorite!

Multico bags can be tricky and veer to tacky territory quickly, in my humble opinion. You really have to choose colors that blend well together so that it looks cohesive.
 
I know it's very overwhelming, lots of choices!

As @acrowcounted mentioned, you HAVE to choose from the available color list (currently Colorama 2022 unless you're shown the Colorama 2023 sheet), you're not free to just choose whatever color you want if it's not on the list.

The type of leather they use for the interior is not a choice, they will decide for you and usually use the same leather for a regular bag (chevre for B/K, lambskin for Constance); you just choose the color if you're doing a verso.

Bleu Saphir and Capucine sound great!

Have you read this article by our own @Notorious Pink ? I find it spot on and very helpful!
Yes, I have read the article by now. So many rules to obey, lol. I will sit down and make a list of variants before I go and order. Thanks a lot, carlinha! :flowers:
 
The inside is typically chevre but all you need to know is if you are doing a Verso, you pick exterior color from the exteriors list and interior color from the interiors list. If you are doing “line” model, interior color will be the same as whatever you pick for the exterior color (but you MUST change the stitching color from the default stitching color). If you do multico, you ignore the interior colors list and simply pick two colors from the same leather type from the exterior colors list. I don’t know what you mean by ”entire inner part of the bag” but yes? The entire inside of the bag (for Birkin) and below the inner flap seam for Kelly will be the “interior” color.
Neither menthe nor mauve pale are valid choices for interior colors.
Thanks a lot, arowcounted! I will probably go for a verso. Sounds more fun. Still thinking of a colour for lining with red outside. This is really hard to decide. I will make a list with several options before I go and order.
 
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Still confused. Next question: if outside is Togo what leather is the lining made of? Can i choose swift or mysore? And: if I go for ”verso” is the inner colour always in the entire inner part of the bag? I know it sounds strange to ask this question… Lol.
Right now I think of K in bleu saphire outside with capucine inside; or menthe inside. The other version is rouge casaque outside, but I don’t know what to pick for the inside. Mauve pâle? Help!!:confused1::facepalm:
If a do ”Line” in bleu saphire which contrast stitching? And for rouge casaque? TIA for any suggestions and pictures. :hbeat:

The lining will be chèvre for a K and agneau for a C as @carlinha noted.
Verso lining color in a Birkin goes to the top edge of the bag; in a Kelly it is the same but it does NOT include the flap. This can be very confusing because there ARE verso Kellys that have been released, current and past, where the contrast color is on the inside flap. Just know that SOs do NOT work this way.

Because of this, a verso Kelly lining can really be anything....only you will see it. If you do contrast stitch, then it can be seen on the outside of the bag, but from a distance it will not be that noticeable in a Kelly retourne unless you've done a very strong contrast.

Personally, for a Bleu Saphir bag in Togo (in Togo, Bleu Saphir is like a navy blue, whereas in Chèvre it's quite bright) - I think both Capucine and Menthe are great lining choices. With Menthe, you could do a green stitch outside and it would not be visible except reasonably close up.

There's a great thread on contrast stitching and another on contrast lining that are worth checking out.
 
The lining will be chèvre for a K and agneau for a C as @carlinha noted.
Verso lining color in a Birkin goes to the top edge of the bag; in a Kelly it is the same but it does NOT include the flap. This can be very confusing because there ARE verso Kellys that have been released, current and past, where the contrast color is on the inside flap. Just know that SOs do NOT work this way.

Because of this, a verso Kelly lining can really be anything....only you will see it. If you do contrast stitch, then it can be seen on the outside of the bag, but from a distance it will not be that noticeable in a Kelly retourne unless you've done a very strong contrast.

Personally, for a Bleu Saphir bag in Togo (in Togo, Bleu Saphir is like a navy blue, whereas in Chèvre it's quite bright) - I think both Capucine and Menthe are great lining choices. With Menthe, you could do a green stitch outside and it would not be visible except reasonably close up.

There's a great thread on contrast stitching and another on contrast lining that are worth checking out.
Dear QuelleFromage, your answer regarding how upp the lining in a contrasting color goes made me feel less stupid :facepalm: . Thank you very much. I was confused because of the above mentioned exception.:wave:
 
Dear QuelleFromage, your answer regarding how upp the lining in a contrasting color goes made me feel less stupid :facepalm: . Thank you very much. I was confused because of the above mentioned exception.:wave:
OMG, it's not a stupid question at all! It comes up whenever someone wants to order a Kelly. To make it even MORE confusing, apparently special order lining colors USED to go up through the flap - this was many years ago, long before I ever did one, but I've seen older SOs where this is the case.

I know it would be way too much complication in the special order process, but I wish we could extend colors to the underside of handles and sangles as in the So Flash Kelly special edition. Maybe someday!

I am trying to figure out my order right now. 90% it's a Kelly 28 retourne. Maybe Gris T Clemence with Framboise lining and similar stitching, but it might be Deep Blue Clemence, in which case I have no idea what I will pair it with. I want a neutral-ish K28 retourne, just have to figure out if it's a dark neutral or a light one. I wish Rouge H was available!
 
OMG, it's not a stupid question at all! It comes up whenever someone wants to order a Kelly. To make it even MORE confusing, apparently special order lining colors USED to go up through the flap - this was many years ago, long before I ever did one, but I've seen older SOs where this is the case.

I know it would be way too much complication in the special order process, but I wish we could extend colors to the underside of handles and sangles as in the So Flash Kelly special edition. Maybe someday!

I am trying to figure out my order right now. 90% it's a Kelly 28 retourne. Maybe Gris T Clemence with Framboise lining and similar stitching, but it might be Deep Blue Clemence, in which case I have no idea what I will pair it with. I want a neutral-ish K28 retourne, just have to figure out if it's a dark neutral or a light one. I wish Rouge H was available!
I just want to add my thanks to you too, for all the help you have given, probably without even realizing, to so many people here!

Also, have you ever considered a different red, like rouge piment or rouge casaque, for the k 28 retourne?
 
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