Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Exotic Leather SOs are much more limited than regular leather SOs and need to be offered intentionally as an invite to specifically place an exotic SO.
I have to disagree with this: me and my mum were invited to place a SO in April. At first it was only me, but then our SA suggested also my mum should take the opportunity. We were allowed to choose only between specific models (B - retourne only, K and MK) but there were no restrictions on leathers. In fact, I picked a Clemence B25 and my mum an exotic MK. I’m located in Italy.
HTH :tup:

Edit: hope my experience could clarify how it works in Italy, even if it does not contribute to the “exotic vs non-exotic SO” part :flowers:
 
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I have to disagree with this: me and my mum were invited to place a SO in April. At first it was only me, but then our SA suggested also my mum should take the opportunity. We were allowed to choose only between specific models (B - retourne only, K and MK) but there were no restrictions on leathers. In fact, I picked a Clemence B25 and my mum an exotic MK. I’m located in Italy.
HTH :tup:
So the fact that you were invited to place an SO that included exotics means that you agree to her point rather than disagree. Because you cannot see from the point of view of someone who was denied to place an exotic SO because they were not invited. :)
 
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The SO rules seem to be different across countries. In parts of Asia, only B and K allowed and exotics were not offered at all. The reason mentioned to me was every store was allocated a value budget and if exotics were offered to the client, the entire value would be utilised and lesser number of clients can be given a chance to order a SO. My SA told me just so that an opportunity is given to more number of clients this strategy is being used. It could be different across countries as I paid 50% advance as well.
 
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I can only speak about my specific experience. I placed a SO in May and there were no restrictions whatsoever. Hope this helps.
Did you order a bag in exotic leather?

The way it works, unless it has randomly changed this year out of the blue, is that the store is given a SO spending budget, let’s say $100,000 to make the numbers simple. Thus they can order $100,000 worth of bags through the a la carte process. In rough terms, that is either 10 Epsom birkins or 2 croc birkins. Most stores would much rather invite 10 clients to place a SO than 2 clients so when they invite the clients it is under the (unspoken) rule that they cannot make an exotic bag. Ive done five SOs so far and never once has my SA said I couldnt do an exotic….but that’s because I never even considered one. Had I put forward choices that were exotic, I’m sure I would have been corrected. Perhaps some stores play things more on the fly by offering a SO and just deducting whatever the client spends as they go along, not caring if they blow their entire budget in just a few customers but almost all the time it is specifically allocated how much (roughly) a customer is going to spend on their order before they are invited.
 
Did you order a bag in exotic leather?

The way it works, unless it has randomly changed this year out of the blue, is that the store is given a SO spending budget, let’s say $100,000 to make the numbers simple. Thus they can order $100,000 worth of bags through the a la carte process. In rough terms, that is either 10 Epsom birkins or 2 croc birkins. Most stores would much rather invite 10 clients to place a SO than 2 clients so when they invite the clients it is under the (unspoken) rule that they cannot make an exotic bag. Ive done five SOs so far and never once has my SA said I couldnt do an exotic….but that’s because I never even considered one. Had I put forward choices that were exotic, I’m sure I would have been corrected. Perhaps some stores play things more on the fly by offering a SO and just deducting whatever the client spends as they go along, not caring if they blow their entire budget in just a few customers but almost all the time it is specifically allocated how much (roughly) a customer is going to spend on their order before they are invited.
I think what you said is correct. Exotic SO needs to be offered to you separately. I did a SO in FSH this year and asked if I can choose an exotic skin and they said it's not possible to place an exotic order because I was offered a normal skin SO.

To even make things harder Ostrich SO are also separate from Alligator/Crocodile SO.
 
Did you order a bag in exotic leather?

The way it works, unless it has randomly changed this year out of the blue, is that the store is given a SO spending budget, let’s say $100,000 to make the numbers simple. Thus they can order $100,000 worth of bags through the a la carte process. In rough terms, that is either 10 Epsom birkins or 2 croc birkins. Most stores would much rather invite 10 clients to place a SO than 2 clients so when they invite the clients it is under the (unspoken) rule that they cannot make an exotic bag. Ive done five SOs so far and never once has my SA said I couldnt do an exotic….but that’s because I never even considered one. Had I put forward choices that were exotic, I’m sure I would have been corrected. Perhaps some stores play things more on the fly by offering a SO and just deducting whatever the client spends as they go along, not caring if they blow their entire budget in just a few customers but almost all the time it is specifically allocated how much (roughly) a customer is going to spend on their order before they are invited.
Yes, I would say this is pretty accurate in my personal experience as well.
 
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I think what you said is correct. Exotic SO needs to be offered to you separately. I did a SO in FSH this year and asked if I can choose an exotic skin and they said it's not possible to place an exotic order because I was offered a normal skin SO.

To even make things harder Ostrich SO are also separate from Alligator/Crocodile SO.
this is all interesting info! I did my 1st SO with a US store in April, when SA and I were considering options, she said "How about Ostrich?" I am never an exotic person but I just politely declined, but I didn't know so much other factors to consider here!
 
this is all interesting info! I did my 1st SO with a US store in April, when SA and I were considering options, she said "How about Ostrich?" I am never an exotic person but I just politely declined, but I didn't know so much other factors to consider here!
As far as H is concerned, Ostrich is not considered an "exotic" as a part of the SO process.
 
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