Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Retourne. Thank you. Do you mind share your SOs pictures? :smile: xx
Well, then you are looking at Swift or Togo for your K25 :)
I'm traveling but I'll see if I can pull a few photos. There are threads for combo bags (in Reference) and for contrast linings (in main forum) that are very helpful :flowers:

I guess I'd say, choose K20 or K25 first. K20 is apparently harder to get at retail but (this is just me personally) I don't like bicolor on a bag that small, and verso barely shows (again, tiny bag), plus you can't do brushed hardware. I love K25 as a size and find it more usable. But once you've chosen a bag size, you will have narrowed down your choices a lot and that will make it all easier :)
 
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Well, then you are looking at Swift or Togo for your K25 :)
I'm traveling but I'll see if I can pull a few photos. There are threads for combo bags (in Reference) and for contrast linings (in main forum) that are very helpful :flowers:

I guess I'd say, choose K20 or K25 first. K20 is apparently harder to get at retail but (this is just me personally) I don't like bicolor on a bag that small, and verso barely shows (again, tiny bag), plus you can't do brushed hardware. I love K25 as a size and find it more usable. But once you've chosen a bag size, you will have narrowed down your choices a lot and that will make it all easier :)
I’m appreciated your advice. I lean towards K25. The choices are Swift, Togo and Chèvre? Retourne, and Brushed Palladium. (If that allowed.) I like Swift and Chevre a lot but still don’t know which to pick.
If Black Swift exterior, maybe Blue interior with Etain stitching. Don’t know if that too much going on in one bag :)
 
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Well, then you are looking at Swift or Togo for your K25 :smile:
I'm traveling but I'll see if I can pull a few photos. There are threads for combo bags (in Reference) and for contrast linings (in main forum) that are very helpful :flowers:

I guess I'd say, choose K20 or K25 first. K20 is apparently harder to get at retail but (this is just me personally) I don't like bicolor on a bag that small, and verso barely shows (again, tiny bag), plus you can't do brushed hardware. I love K25 as a size and find it more usable. But once you've chosen a bag size, you will have narrowed down your choices a lot and that will make it all easier :smile:
I agree re: MKII being too small for bicolor in my personal opinion, which is why I sent for a K25 sellier in my first SO. If I can do another one, I would do K25 retourne bicolor with gris asphalt + something else, or a chevre B25, it's unfortunately we cannot do Kelly Retourne in chevre.
 
Choosing combination for a first SO is not easy :wtf:(at least for me)
The choices are either K25 or K20

K20 : Chevre
K25 : Swift, Togo or Chevre
Colour I like for Kelly : Grey, Black or Blue
HW : Gold/ palladium- I don’t mind actually
Any idea/ suggestions are welcome. Simple or creative I like both. No right or wrong. I’d love any help I can get:wave:

I think it would be much easier if we kinda knew what you currently have in your collection. Generally speaking most people would carry a K25 more than a Mini K. My last 2 SOs were both bi-colour, K25 and Mini K, as I couldn't decide which colours I wanted from PO offers and kept declining K20s. Go for the combination which ticks the most boxes for you.
 
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I’m appreciated your advice. I lean towards K25. The choices are Swift, Togo and Chèvre? Retourne, and Brushed Palladium. (If that allowed.) I like Swift and Chevre a lot but still don’t know which to pick.
If Black Swift exterior, maybe Blue interior with Etain stitching. Don’t know if that too much going on in one bag :smile:
If you want a retourné K25, chèvre is not a choice - chèvre is only available for sellier now (frustrating!). But yes you can do brushed palladium.

I have a black K28 with a blue interior and cobalt stitching (it's sellier chèvre with brushed palladium) and I love it. Graphite is also a nice stitch on black (I have it on a B30). I have never seen Etain stitching but imagine it would be much like Graphite.
Remember that in a retourné there is much less exterior stitching than on a sellier, so contrast stitch is not so....contrasty.
 
This is just a question I've had rattling around even though I do not yet own any Hermes bags! I heard somebody say the brushed hardware makes a horrible scrapey feel/noise on the kelly when it is opened and the hardware touches itself. I'm very curious if brushed hardware owners find this to be true, or if it's never been a problem!
 
This is just a question I've had rattling around even though I do not yet own any Hermes bags! I heard somebody say the brushed hardware makes a horrible scrapey feel/noise on the kelly when it is opened and the hardware touches itself. I'm very curious if brushed hardware owners find this to be true, or if it's never been a problem!
I have a bunch of bags with brushed hardware and I can't say I've ever noticed the sound of the hardware. Actually none of my bags make hardware sounds that I can hear. I might just be deaf :p
 
This is just a question I've had rattling around even though I do not yet own any Hermes bags! I heard somebody say the brushed hardware makes a horrible scrapey feel/noise on the kelly when it is opened and the hardware touches itself. I'm very curious if brushed hardware owners find this to be true, or if it's never been a problem!

It does make a different sound when compared to polished hardware, but I think this is only noticeable to the extremely picky.

I would just pick the hardware you think looks the best for your bag. You cannot go wrong (brushed vs polished).
 
If you want a retourné K25, chèvre is not a choice - chèvre is only available for sellier now (frustrating!). But yes you can do brushed palladium.

I have a black K28 with a blue interior and cobalt stitching (it's sellier chèvre with brushed palladium) and I love it. Graphite is also a nice stitch on black (I have it on a B30). I have never seen Etain stitching but imagine it would be much like Graphite.
Remember that in a retourné there is much less exterior stitching than on a sellier, so contrast stitch is not so....contrasty.

Thank you very much No Chevre for Retourne I guess my choice would be Swift. I love to pick Graphite for exterior but I don’t think that possible. Blue interior like yours sound amazing. I’m still 50/50 whether K20 or K25 to go for. This is good knowledge before the decision day.
 
Thank you very much No Chevre for Retourne I guess my choice would be Swift. I love to pick Graphite for exterior but I don’t think that possible. Blue interior like yours sound amazing. I’m still 50/50 whether K20 or K25 to go for. This is good knowledge before the decision day.

I am with the others who suggested to go with the size you will use more.

Another thing to consider is the type of leather/color combination you want. If the color combo isn't what you are looking for then you might want to go with the bag size that gives you your dream bag.

My wife was dying to do a B30 in Jaune Amber/Gris Agate in Ostrich but that color combo wasn't available that season so she had to pick a different size.

Also You can always do another SO in the future and it gives you something to look forward to.
 
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I am with the others who suggested to go with the size you will use more.

Another thing to consider is the type of leather/color combination you want. If the color combo isn't what you are looking for then you might want to go with the bag size that gives you your dream bag.

My wife was dying to do a B30 in Jaune Amber/Gris Agate in Ostrich but that color combo wasn't available that season so she had to pick a different size.

Also You can always do another SO in the future and it gives you something to look forward to.
Thank you A Ali someone suggest to get k20 first and ask for k25 in a plain black swift later.
 
@JeanGranger I think the temptation is to go crazy with contrast stich and colour combos. I know- I very nearly did.:shocked: …then I had to remind myself that is best to ask for things that can get lots and lots of wear rather than statement pieces. Of course it may be that you actually want a statement piece- it is an opportunity to create. Hermes encourages more ‘adventurous’ choices rather than just black.
 
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