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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Thank you so much! I definitely hope this is my First SO with many many more to come. And I believe it will get easier later on. I just wish that I could try on B25/K25 somehow and that would make the decision process so much easier.
If you have never tried K25 or B25 on in person I would strongly caution against ordering one for an SO.
People online can tell you it’s a great size and highly coveted but that doesn’t mean it will be a good size for you. I bought a K25 without trying it on and ended up selling bc it looked like a toy on me and I’m not tall. When I tried a B25 in person it was the same. Good luck deciding.
 
If you have never tried K25 or B25 on in person I would strongly caution against ordering one for an SO.
People online can tell you it’s a great size and highly coveted but that doesn’t mean it will be a good size for you. I bought a K25 without trying it on and ended up selling bc it looked like a toy on me and I’m not tall. When I tried a B25 in person it was the same. Good luck deciding.
I have tried K25 & B25 in person, and am petite: 5’3”, 120 lbs. They did not look ridiculous on me, but I would consider it more if an evening bag rather than everyday one, and ordered the K28. My GF who is 5’6”, 130 lbs also tried both and they looked ridiculously small on her. She ordered B30 instead. Also consider that SO may take 1-2 years, so trends like the minibag may change.
 
Thank you so much! I definitely hope this is my First SO with many many more to come. And I believe it will get easier later on. I just wish that I could try on B25/K25 somehow and that would make the decision process so much easier.

Sometimes some stores may have a bag for you to try on. Although I think that obviously depends on the store & what they may have.

I am catching up on the thread and saw that someone mentioned a rumor that chevre K28 may not be offered any more next year. (Chevre tends to be only restricted to smaller bags and it's only up to size 28 right now for the Kelly, so if that were to happen you'd only be able to make Chevre 25s next round). If you are set on chevre, maybe consider the possibility that this could be the last round during which you can still make the larger size. (Although I'd try confirming if that is indeed the case with your SA first since currently it sounds like a rumor; but I also feel like your SA may not know either lol)

Good luck on your decision! Let us know what you decide on!
 
Hi, just wondering if anyone has heard that Chèvre will be unavailable next year for SO K28s? I have my heart set on one in noir so hoping I’m incorrect :confused1:
Sometimes some stores may have a bag for you to try on. Although I think that obviously depends on the store & what they may have.

I am catching up on the thread and saw that someone mentioned a rumor that chevre K28 may not be offered any more next year. (Chevre tends to be only restricted to smaller bags and it's only up to size 28 right now for the Kelly, so if that were to happen you'd only be able to make Chevre 25s next round). If you are set on chevre, maybe consider the possibility that this could be the last round during which you can still make the larger size. (Although I'd try confirming if that is indeed the case with your SA first since currently it sounds like a rumor; but I also feel like your SA may not know either lol)

Good luck on your decision! Let us know what you decide on!
I don’t think they have any clue what will be offered for SO next year yet as we are still nearly a full year away from new options coming out. @Susie Tunes where did you hear this rumor?
 
Sometimes some stores may have a bag for you to try on. Although I think that obviously depends on the store & what they may have.

I am catching up on the thread and saw that someone mentioned a rumor that chevre K28 may not be offered any more next year. (Chevre tends to be only restricted to smaller bags and it's only up to size 28 right now for the Kelly, so if that were to happen you'd only be able to make Chevre 25s next round). If you are set on chevre, maybe consider the possibility that this could be the last round during which you can still make the larger size. (Although I'd try confirming if that is indeed the case with your SA first since currently it sounds like a rumor; but I also feel like your SA may not know either lol)

Good luck on your decision! Let us know what you decide on!
I don’t know if the rumor is true, but my SA knew I wanted K28 in chèvre and that I would not consider any other size or leather... and she pushed hard to get me approved for SO this year bc she didn’t think there was any other way for me to get those specs. I certainly don’t have a mega VIP purchase history, so the SO offer was a total shock to me.
 
I don’t think they have any clue what will be offered for SO next year yet as we are still nearly a full year away from new options coming out. @Susie Tunes where did you hear this rumor?

Yeah I don't think my SA would know at all. The only reason I paused to think is because I know they don't do it in 32/35 due to the smaller mysore hides and it's been that way for quite a while, so I could potentially see them restricting even further if they are having issues with supply. But that's just pure speculation...

Would also love to know where you heard about this @Susie Tunes !
 
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Sometimes some stores may have a bag for you to try on. Although I think that obviously depends on the store & what they may have.

I am catching up on the thread and saw that someone mentioned a rumor that chevre K28 may not be offered any more next year. (Chevre tends to be only restricted to smaller bags and it's only up to size 28 right now for the Kelly, so if that were to happen you'd only be able to make Chevre 25s next round). If you are set on chevre, maybe consider the possibility that this could be the last round during which you can still make the larger size. (Although I'd try confirming if that is indeed the case with your SA first since currently it sounds like a rumor; but I also feel like your SA may not know either lol)

Good luck on your decision! Let us know what you decide on!

Thank you so much! I kept saying that I wish I could try on a K25 or B25 for size and my SA didn’t seem to want to bring out any for me to try. But she did hint that if I really want to add a B25/K25 to my collection next year she can make that happen. So I’m thinking I should probably play it safe and order the size I know I’ll love/use for sure.

If they do stop offering chèvre K28 would they also stop doing chèvre B30? I don’t think many SAs have any more intel than we do. I was totally shocked to find out that many SAs don’t know as much as we do about SO. I definitely went in knowing more about this season’s SO than my SA did...

Also I was told that for my store, once I place my SO order, next year I can only get 1 quota bag before December. They won’t be able to offer me a second quota bag unless they are sure that my SO is not arriving in December. If somehow my SO arrives in December after I get my second quota bag they will hold it until January for me to purchase. I’m glad that my SA is being so transparent with me, but that means I should probably be picky with my 1st quota bag next year, because once I take it, if any of my holy grails show up before December I won’t be able to get it.
 
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If they do stop offering chèvre K28 would they also stop doing chèvre B30? I don’t think many SAs have any more intel than we do. I was totally shocked to find out that many SAs don’t know as much as we do about SO. I definitely went in knowing more about this season’s SO than my SA did...

If the rumor is true then I’m really glad I did B30 in chèvre!

I’m gonna echo what others have said. If it’s your first SO and you want to be able to use the bag you should go for the size that you know works.Otherwise, someone mentioned paper models which is a fantastic idea.
 
If the rumor is true then I’m really glad I did B30 in chèvre!

I’m gonna echo what others have said. If it’s your first SO and you want to be able to use the bag you should go for the size that you know works.Otherwise, someone mentioned paper models which is a fantastic idea.

Haha I really like the idea of paper model. My daughter was just asking me what I’d like for my birthday. Maybe I’ll ask for a paper B25. She’s pretty crafty so hopefully that’s something she can make. :P
 
So I spent an hour in the store today and sadly came home without placing an order. An hour simply wasn‘t enough for someone placing an SO for the first time, despite all the research I’d done before I went in. I narrowed down my choices but couldn’t make up my mind. My SA didn’t like the idea of putting down an order and change it the next day so she asked me to make up my mind and come back to place the order.

So I’ve decided that I’m going to do raisin and anemone chèvre, but I can’t decide if I want B25 or B30 or K25 or K28. I really like how RGHW looks on Raisin chèvre which means I can’t do Kelly. But I’m in the process of hunting down a Birkin Touch in Raisin so if I do succeed a Raisin Chèvre Birkin might be a little repetitive? I’m tempted to get a size 25 because it’s a highly sought after size that is harder to get and I don’t have any yet. But I’m not petite and I worry that 25 is not going to work well for me. If I do go with 25 I think I’d prefer K25 over B25, but then I can’t do RGHW... Finally, I‘m tempted to do a Multico but I’m scared of the bag ending up looking too busy and loud. Verso with contrast stitching is definitely a safer choice. All these dilemmas... I know I shouldn’t be so greedy and want it all. But I just can’t decide right now.

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Congrats! I agree that an hour is just not enough...I wish Hermes has an app that can magically show people how the bags will look like with the colors selected lol

I went earlier today to place my first SO too, I had a pretty solid idea on what I want and the kind of color I'm looking for, but once I'm there to look at the choices I was having a very hard time to decide which combination to go with....!! It took me close to 2 hours to get it done but my SA was very helpful in terms of suggestions and things to think about. I ended up placing a K25 epsom with Trench and Gold with CM :)
 
Yeah I don't think my SA would know at all. The only reason I paused to think is because I know they don't do it in 32/35 due to the smaller mysore hides and it's been that way for quite a while, so I could potentially see them restricting even further if they are having issues with supply. But that's just pure speculation...

Would also love to know where you heard about this @Susie Tunes !

My SA said it to me but it was in the context of offering me a K Touch as a consolidation prize. I’m starting to think it’s all a bit fishy - the pandemic has destroyed tourist sales so they’re probably under pressure to shift stock to the locals...
 
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Will be going in to finalize my SO this weekend. Any recommendations for verso lining color for K28 BGH in chevre noisette? :confused1:
There are like no pics of noisette color combos anywhere...

Ooh, personally I think Noisette would look gorgeous with deeper or jewel-toned colors like Rouge H, Rouge Grenat, Brique, Vert Cypres, or Colvert. If you want more of a pop of color, something warm like Orange Poppy would probably look gorgeous with Noisette.
 
I’m a chevre gal in general. My last 3 SO’s were all chevre, K28, B25 and B30. That said, I just placed a rather quick order over the phone as store is closed. I went for epsom which I usually avoid. I went for a K25 gold in epsom with craie interior GHW. For me the sellier K25 in colours just looks better on me. I am 5’3. The black chevre in 28 though looks amazing and not that much bigger than my k25 ostrich in cobalt. I really think the leather, colour and choice (sellier vs retourne) makes an impact in terms of K sizes.
I really hope I didn't make a mistake choosing the K25 gold in epsom instead of chevre.
 
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