Hermes Phone Orders

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If this really is about resellers, all H has done is INCREASE sales for them. So many of us cannot stop by a boutique to buy what we need to be shipped or held, but resellers can. We will end up having to rely more on them, than H. What a stupid decision from Hermes. They have stilted one of their most loyal customer bases!
 
Yesterday, my SA said that she could still take phone orders and ship non-leather goods, such as scarves, etc. and she is holding a leather item for me to pick up next week. She mentioned that the new policy with leather goods is that the buyer has to be there in person and have there credit card swiped. My guess is that H is trying to protect themselves against the major resellers in the market. I feel for TPFers that aren't near a well-stocked store, as this really hits them hard.
 
Stores are not supposed to even hold merchandise in the back that has already been paid for. Once you buy it, you have to take it with you. There are probably some variations on this rule depending on the store but yes, this is another change. For those who have SAs willing to make one last shipment for what has already been paid for, consider yourselves lucky. Some stores are notifying customers that if you don't come in and pick up your purchased items in store within a certain number of days, they will issue you a refund (not store credit) and the items will be made available for sale.
 
My SA told me that if I like an item, I can pay for it via bank transfer, but they will not be able to ship it (apparently one of their shipments got stolen so they decided to stop shipping anywhere anymore).

So that means that you can buy it, and they will keep it for you until you pick it up.

I guess whatever I buy from her would have to stay in the store for about a 6 months before I go back and collect it.... :wacko:
Sounds like an excuse. They are selling a $9200 purse on H.com right now. Do they expect the buyer to come pick it up? What about the $39000 Kelly bracelet? They need to get their story straight.
 
Stores are not supposed to even hold merchandise in the back that has already been paid for. Once you buy it, you have to take it with you. There are probably some variations on this rule depending on the store but yes, this is another change. For those who have SAs willing to make one last shipment for what has already been paid for, consider yourselves lucky. Some stores are notifying customers that if you don't come in and pick up your purchased items in store within a certain number of days, they will issue you a refund (not store credit) and the items will be made available for sale.

Wow!! How terrible! Great info! Thanks Lala!:flowers:
 
Yesterday, my SA said that she could still take phone orders and ship non-leather goods, such as scarves, etc. and she is holding a leather item for me to pick up next week. She mentioned that the new policy with leather goods is that the buyer has to be there in person and have there credit card swiped. My guess is that H is trying to protect themselves against the major resellers in the market. I feel for TPFers that aren't near a well-stocked store, as this really hits them hard.

I agree. My SA in SF takes down the items that I want and is still able to call me to pick it up. She told me that she is grateful for established client business. Some newer SA that solely depended on tourists for sales is in trouble. The most coveted bags will only be sold to the existing local clients. No phone orders. I know that is the case with the SA I worked with in Las Vegas.
 
balenciaga-boy said:
also, i think that apart from "weeding out the resellers", perhaps h should try and improve the attitudes of their workers to provide a more welcoming experience for their walk in customers since they are pushing for a more "physical" transaction between stores and customers.

I guess from now on, i will definitely frequent reseller stores, use personal shopping concierge services and purchase more from my sa in japan instead. I'd rather pay more to get good service and i can buy an item whenever i want without having to deal with all these complicated policies.

ita!
 
charmesh said:
Sounds like an excuse. They are selling a $9200 purse on H.com right now. Do they expect the buyer to come pick it up? What about the $39000 Kelly bracelet? They need to get their story straight.

From what I understand, the online portion of a store/company operates as a different entity from the retail stores, because it technically does not have a physical store. Thus with H.com, there is the return policy that differs from the stores, and I'm certain the continued ability to ship items.

Actually, some of these new policies are ones that I remember being told by stores four or five years ago when I started shopping at Hermes. I was told that they absolutely would not ship bags, nor could they even tell me what bags they had over the phone (obviously that changed once I had a regular SA). Also. I remember reading on tpf way back when, that if you ordered a bag, Hermes gave you a set number of hours (48?) to get to the store to pick it up. Who knows what the motive is behind what is happening now, but it could be as simple as corporate cracking the whip on stores that got too lax with the rules. Probably someone got in trouble, got sued, lost money, and now they realize how many stores were doing the same thing.
 
From what I understand, the online portion of a store/company operates as a different entity from the retail stores, because it technically does not have a physical store. Thus with H.com, there is the return policy that differs from the stores, and I'm certain the continued ability to ship items.

Actually, some of these new policies are ones that I remember being told by stores four or five years ago when I started shopping at Hermes. I was told that they absolutely would not ship bags, nor could they even tell me what bags they had over the phone (obviously that changed once I had a regular SA). Also. I remember reading on tpf way back when, that if you ordered a bag, Hermes gave you a set number of hours (48?) to get to the store to pick it up. Who knows what the motive is behind what is happening now, but it could be as simple as corporate cracking the whip on stores that got too lax with the rules. Probably someone got in trouble, got sued, lost money, and now they realize how many stores were doing the same thing.

I think you are on to something here. Because some of the rumblings I am reading here sounds familiar to me from years past.
 
ouija board said:
From what I understand, the online portion of a store/company operates as a different entity from the retail stores, because it technically does not have a physical store. Thus with H.com, there is the return policy that differs from the stores, and I'm certain the continued ability to ship items.

Actually, some of these new policies are ones that I remember being told by stores four or five years ago when I started shopping at Hermes. I was told that they absolutely would not ship bags, nor could they even tell me what bags they had over the phone (obviously that changed once I had a regular SA). Also. I remember reading on tpf way back when, that if you ordered a bag, Hermes gave you a set number of hours (48?) to get to the store to pick it up. Who knows what the motive is behind what is happening now, but it could be as simple as corporate cracking the whip on stores that got too lax with the rules. Probably someone got in trouble, got sued, lost money, and now they realize how many stores were doing the same thing.

Thank you for a great post :)

A lot of these policies had been there since the beginning.
 
Hi. Following up on an earlier posting about me contacting Hermes USA with feedback (complaint) about having paid for a Lindy bag and then finding out it was later sold to someone else...

The person I originally directed my letter to actually no longer work for the company. But I didn't know this at the time I wrote the letter; I just did a search in Google and LinkedIn and found a name. But what I did was the following-- I addressed the letter not only to this person but added "Current Customer Service Manager of Hermes USA" and also added to this "c/o (care of) Hermes of Paris Boutique." By doing this, I figure whoever is the Current Manager is legally allowed to open my letter; likewise, by addressing "care of Hermes Boutique", anyone who works there can open my letter too.
I have to say-- it was super hard to find the address for Customer Relations for Hermes!

Louis Vuitton (which I love and love even more now, in light of this awful experience with Hermes) is much easier in terms of finding their customer relations contact info, etc. (Then again, I shop at the LV flagship in NY and have the names and phone numbers for the site manager, the VIP ambassadors, etc. so I know whom to contact to praise and complain.)

Anyway, in getting the phone call from one of the staff at Hermes USA (headquartered in NYC), I now know the name of the VP of Retail for Eastern Region of Hermes USA. (That's the full title.) I hesitate to post her name so openly online, although if you do a search on Google under VP Retail Eastern Region Hermes, you'll figure out who it is because her name and photo are posted in grand openings and events that Hermes host in Chicago, NYC, etc.

The staff who contacted me told me that, even though I wrote the name of a staff who no longer worked for Hermes, my letter still made it to the hands of this VP because of the way I addressed the letter; and also this VP apparently reads all letters that are addressed to customer relations, etc. Good and negative feedback. (I think they were just impressed that I manage to write the name of a staff who worked for them long ago! They asked me how I got the name and I explained to them.)

Anyway... for those of who who wish to contact Hermes about this phone policy or any other policies they have implemented that you wish to give constructive feedback...

You can send the letter to:

VP of Retail Eastern Region of Hermes USA
c/o Hermes of Paris Boutique
55 East 59th St
New York, NY 10022

Even if you wrote "General Manager of Customer Service", the letter will go to this VP or a member of her team. (Mine did. But then again, who would make up such a story??? I still have the voicemail msgs that the Sales Associate from the Vienna VA store, and the Amex charges as proof of what happened. And, yes, I thought of contacting Better Business Bureau, but figure I give Hermes a chance at corrective and preventive actions.)

ps
I asked if I could have this Lindy 34cm bag made for me in electric bleu, the staff deferred the question and said the VP could explain to me when she calls me on Monday (3.12). Yes, I will ask because I heard that in North America one cannot special request bags to be made; but one can still do that in Europe and Asia. (I know I can have a bag made just for me in Europe because last summer when I was in Stockholm, I went to Hermes and they offered to have the Jypsiere made for me; it would take a while; and I didn't know when I would be back in Stockholm, so I politely declined their offer.)

Sorry for the digression, but it's good to be able to share this experience with ppl who are avid handbag collectors!

Good luck and I hope to see good news from you. Should not be hard to find a BE Lindy in the US or at least know which store has an order that they will be receiving soon. I hope they don't just give you an explanation and offer you a full refund.
 
Thank you for a great post :)

A lot of these policies had been there since the beginning.

:yes::yes: my H store don't ship bags, full stop, even if I already paid for it. They won't do "charge and send" either. They would not discuss Birkin or Kelly inventory with anybody on the phone. They will make "the call" to inform you your ordered merchandise is ready for picking up. But you will need to go in person to pay and pick it up. Strictly 1 B/K per customer per season (unless if you are VVVIP of course). They don't normally transfer bags either. So nothing here is news to me. I am based in Europe and I would say the only exception is FSH. I do appreciate some store in the U.S. do long distance transaction though because after all it's a geographically huge country. Not everybody can get to a boutique easily.
 
I have a question regarding sales tax. So you come from a state with no sales tax. Now since you can only purchase most of H items in store, does that mean you will have to pay sales tax according to the store's location?
 
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