Help please! Diamond and Setting advice needed

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Ame- "An ideal cut diamond will often appear extremely dark to the naked eye when it's all firey"...do you mean when it's set in a halo setting or just in general?

Just in general. It's a lot to do with both the angles of the cut, and also to the way the human eye adjusts to the light return

And yes, ame was referring to my halo comment. Sometimes the halo can take away from the center but in your case its not a factor. I dint like pave will affect it unless you are super color sensitive

Exactly. A G-filled halo is not going to be noticeable next to a well cut H.

Actually any idea cut stone can look "dark" in situations where there is fire..ie..direct sunlight. Mine does it. I didn't know why way back when and went on PS asking about it. Halo or no halo.

Mine does also. It's very normal and it's proof that no diamond, no matter how ideal, looks 100% perfect and bright in all lighting situations. It's dark and firey sometimes, white and bright sometimes and bright and firey other times.

Whoops! I was wrong then. I thought she meant the Halo because I believe halos have a tendency to make the center darker. Guess both ways it is dark

No, the halo wouldn't. The brightness of the melee in the halo because its returning the light differently than the center stone will make the main stone appear darker to the eye, even though it's not really.

Well think of the videos showing scintillation or fire (can't remember which) that GOG does. The diamond is really dark. That's just what some (if not all..I don't know) ideal cut diamonds do in certain lights.

Yes, this. It's not so much that it's actually going dark, it's more that the human eye cannot handle the amount of light return it's giving, so our pupils close down a little and it appears far darker than it really is.

My bf and I read online about what lec mentioned - diamonds with flouresence either look cloudy or milky! I am glad that it isn't that big of a deal. I love being schooled on diamonds on this forum, it's so informative! haha

Yea there are a few that WILL do that, but not all do. My stone is not milky and I have seen very many VERY strong blue flour diamonds that did not do it either. It's a neat trait, but not everyone loves it. Ill have to see if I can snap some pics under a UV light sometime. I don't tan but I can try that in a tanning bed.

I think what ame meant was the center stone will react different than the melee in the halo. In some lighting the center might take on that dark appearance but the melee might not which in a sense makes the darkness of the center that much more obvious.

Yes, this. I know that with my diamond band, when my main diamond goes dark and firey, the band is bright and firey. It's sometimes annoying. But I got used to it. I know there have been some posters on PS that have been so annoyed by that, that they changed their settings. Lynn was one of them.

 

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Wow! What a set sk! Are you sure you want to switch to a cushion? I see that black spot in the center there in the picture in the bottom right. I also heard a large culet might create that too. it all adds to the effect in the end, I like wearing something and learning about all the fun little nooks and cranys.

I'm not too worried, im 100% confident the setting we chose is THE setting. It makes me *swoon*

 

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Yes...yes you do. LOL!

 

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I win the prize for most multiquote replies.

Lmao!

 

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Wow! What a set sk! Are you sure you want to switch to a cushion? I see that black spot in the center there in the picture in the bottom right. I also heard a large culet might create that too. it all adds to the effect in the end, I like wearing something and learning about all the fun little nooks and cranys.

I'm not too worried, im 100% confident the setting we chose is THE setting. It makes me *swoon*

WTF!!!! I have NEVER noticed that black circle before!!! LMAO. WOW..quite the eye. I just went through all my pictures of my ring and that is the only day it showed up, but I can't get over in the 100 times I've looked at that picture I've never noticed that. It's my JOB to notice things like that in photographs!! GREAT EYE WHOOPS!!
I actually have a pointed culet. huh? weird.

And thanks, yes I'm 100% sure I'd rather have a cushion But I get my ring back tomorrow and it was reset in a four double prong head that really helps give a cushion effect to my stone. I saw it Saturday and can't wait to have it on my finger to stay.

 

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I find it fascinating how my stone looks totally different EVERY time I look at it.

Neither can I!!! Esp cuz I want pics. Did I tell you he called me today (D) at like 3? I should have some info tomorrow for sure, the order and the files specify what we wanted, so the guy has no idea why the casting isn't per the order.

 

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^Keep me posted!! Somebody better do their job better this time...whoever that may be!

 

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No kidding.

 

[Lec8504]

Ok...so..I'm still as confused as ever. I can't find any 1.5 carat that I like that has the specs that I would like and the right price.

Only 1.5 that's decent is this:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-104049676019
BUT I'm VERY concerned that it's an I :/

So far this is the only one with the specs and price that I like:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-104049676015
What do the diamonds expert here think (especially Ame )? BGD has a pretty great upgrade pollicy i think, it's a lifetime unlimited upgrade, as long as I upgrade 2 criteria out of of: size, color, clarity. So I'm thinking later on I can def upgrade the size and the clarity. Also it's 5% off for wire transfer and no tax for me, which is a plus. I'm trying to see what I should do if I want it to be set in the Tacori setting.

GOG has this one:
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/7762/
Higher clarity but also higher price...but they carry Tacori..so it might be more convienent to go through them.

Ugh I'm still really sad that I can't find a 1.5 that would work...

 

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Ame- any news with your setting?!
Skyphotoimage- GORGEOUS! It's icey white
Whoops- have you started to look again or laying low still?

Bf said nay to the blue collection from BGD...bleh.

 

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Ok...so..I'm still as confused as ever. I can't find any 1.5 carat that I like that has the specs that I would like and the right price.

Only 1.5 that's decent is this:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-104049676019
BUT I'm VERY concerned that it's an I :/

So far this is the only one with the specs and price that I like:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-104049676015
What do the diamonds expert here think (especially Ame )? BGD has a pretty great upgrade pollicy i think, it's a lifetime unlimited upgrade, as long as I upgrade 2 criteria out of of: size, color, clarity. So I'm thinking later on I can def upgrade the size and the clarity. Also it's 5% off for wire transfer and no tax for me, which is a plus. I'm trying to see what I should do if I want it to be set in the Tacori setting.

GOG has this one:
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/7762/
Higher clarity but also higher price...but they carry Tacori..so it might be more convienent to go through them.

Ugh I'm still really sad that I can't find a 1.5 that would work...

The GOG is my favorite though it's not the size you want. I don't MIND the first one from BGD but you have to be ok with an I. And the "internal grainline not shown' is something I'd want more info on.

Ame- any news with your setting?!

Why no on the blue collection? Worth it to keep in the running.

My setting is presently with me, I am sending it in to be sized up a hair though. It's been warm this week and it's been hard to get on. I am a bit anxious about that going into summer. So I might have him go 1/8 to 1/4 a size up.

 

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Sarah is still on the hunt for me.... Absolutely nothing thus far for hearts and arrows in the size I want. But I told her I'll open up to the old European cuts and august vintage rounds. I feel they could match the "vintage" look of the setting and in fact are beautiful diamonds in their own right. Not sure if I'm partial to either. But I think he is a hair more to the hearts and arrows. His same criteria applies. And same he is not a fan of Flour.

Bf keeps saying he will bump the budget but it's not a budget problem so much as a supply issue at this point. I'm not sure when GOG will get the new shipment of august vintage. I entertained the thought of the cushion but was shot down. He really wants a round. he actually really loved the one we sent back but that one little dot!

Don't give up! Ive been at the breaking point a lot myself and just ave to shake it off. Also, i know I'm bias but I've been very very happy with GOG so far. Emails and calls have been amazing!

 

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Ame - BF doesn't like the idea of fluor, but I don't think he even knows what it'll look in person. If we can't find any loose stone in the next few weeks then I'm going to see if I can just order 1 of the blue collection one so that he can see it in real life and if he doesn't like it then I'll just return it.

Any reason why you the GOG one more? Are the H&A more pronounced or are the dimensions better? I'm still trying to train myself to see what's a good stone and what's not.
Also what about the BGD 1.3 diamond versus the GOG one?

Whoops- I love cushions! But my bf is like urs in that respect too, he loves his rounds lol. He's firm with his round brilliant though so not much wiggle room, even though he said whatever makes me happy but I can tell that he's not crazy about it, and I want something that we both love. I'm fine with GOG, sent them a new email today, so we'll see if they get any new stock in. I hope they do too though since it will be more convienent to go with them. Even though some of the PS-ers who posted their BGD and they're really gorgeous...like super pronounced H&A

 

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I like the GOG one more bec of the clarity and the ISEE2 score.