Guide For Coach Product Grades and Markings

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Is this an MFF bag? I bought it at Lord & Taylor this past Monday. Its a Madison Isabelle Op Art (I think). It was 50% off.
 
I recently purchased this Coach City Bag in butter soft glove tanned leather...but I have some doubts if this bag is authentic.I never saw the creed numbers looking like this.I am just starting collecting Classic Coach bags and can you, please , explain to me what do they mean!:)
 

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Does anyone have any more info on the letter E at the end of the style number?
I recently bought a bag from the FOS, the metallic leather Kristin n/s zip tote, B4/BZ, and the style number on the creed is 23761E.
It has the dustbag, so I'm guessing these are FP bags made to be sold some place other than the FP store, but where? and why are they on the FOS? Is this another example of FP bags made for the outlets? Or in this case made for the FOS?
 
Does anyone have any more info on the letter E at the end of the style number?
I recently bought a bag from the FOS, the metallic leather Kristin n/s zip tote, B4/BZ, and the style number on the creed is 23761E.
It has the dustbag, so I'm guessing these are FP bags made to be sold some place other than the FP store, but where? and why are they on the FOS? Is this another example of FP bags made for the outlets? Or in this case made for the FOS?

I haven't been able to find out anything about the E, sorry!
 
I was also wondering if anyone can tell me if this is a genuine Coach bag, I gother it from my local thrift store which I've had good luck with in the past but am questioning this one.
 

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I was also wondering if anyone can tell me if this is a genuine Coach bag, I gother it from my local thrift store which I've had good luck with in the past but am questioning this one.

That number appears on Hyacinth's list of fakes, I'm sorry but it is not genuine, but the thread below is the authentication thread for future reference.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164.html#post22406795


COACHES WITH THESE NUMBERS ARE ALWAYS COUNTERFEIT:

NT-4903
NT-4908
NT-4115
NT-4157
NT-9992
DK-8674
TF-6823
TN-4136
TN-4186
TN-9085
TN-9096
TN-9850
TN-9927
TN-9951
4C-8624
4C-9911
40-8624
7H-7456
KE-6042
JH-9080
 
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My pleasure! I hope that you find the information useful!

I wanted to draw your attention to some comments that were made about my guide's references to the department store codes. It seems that my statement that N and M codes were sold at Nordstrom's and Macy's may not always be correct. The statements below were posted on the Authenticate this Coach thread shortly after I posted the guide.


Regarding KateV's Guide For Coach Product Grades and Markings

Hyacinth:
Good information, although I'm not sure about the various department store codes. To actually use the first letter of the store name just seems too logical. And Coach is seldom logical. And maybe they changed colors but the lettering and drawstrings on my outlet dustbags for keychains were usually red. Nice job!

KateV
I’ve just remembered, the small outlet dustbags with the brown letters and strings are from the Men's Outlet. You are right, the regular outlet uses red letters and strings. And I did some research and found references to N and M codes for Nordstrom and Macy Department Store exclusives, but perhaps those were incorrect assumptions?

BeenBurned:
I've seen bags as Macy's with M codes also.

Hyacinth:
I've seen Z mentioned as both Nordies and TJ Maxx, and W for Hudson's which I'm assuming is the old Hudson's Bay. The only Ns I remember are those old Nordie Ns that were in some sort of brackets. But I never shop at any of those stores except for TJ so I've only just seen the ones on Ebay.

BeenBurned:
The "Z" bags I've seen have been at discounters, i.e., Nordstroms Rack, TJ Maxx, and prior to its recent demise, Filene's Basement. I've never seen a Z at a full priced department store.

Rambler:
Hudson's may have been one of the stores that joined to form Dayton-Hudson dept stores, who were then bought by Marshall Fields who were bought out by Macy's. Dayton-Hudson was the parent corporation of Target.

Hyacinth:
I thought about that. But these store or retailer letters are pretty recent, just in the last year or two, and Dayton-Hudson was sold maybe 10 years ago at least. Also, the poster who mentioned seeing a W in a bag from Hudson's lives in Canada, so I'm assuming she means Hudson's Bay Company that everyone in Canada just calls Hudson's now. The post was just made here at tPF in the last few months.
FYI. In Canada we often refer to the Hudson's Bay Company as "the Bay", instead of "Hudson's". Also, the Bay only started selling Coach in the recent years as far as I know. Unless it is way back from the 90's or before.
 
I'll be posting pics in the Authentication section but have a quick question. I bought a Coach bag yesterday at an estate sale and the creed is all numbers, nine of them, and no spaces.

I've been reading all the reference threads and guides and saw this one lone comment by Hyancith "the old pre-1994 all-numeric serial number system" but can't find any further reading material about this. I see similar, almost identical looking bags on ebay but none with all numeric creed patches and of course, not all sellers even show the patch.

So, can anyone direct me to another thread/guide to read about this? By the way, I paid $8.00 for this bag and was in my opinion, a steal. lol
 
I'll be posting pics in the Authentication section but have a quick question. I bought a Coach bag yesterday at an estate sale and the creed is all numbers, nine of them, and no spaces.

I've been reading all the reference threads and guides and saw this one lone comment by Hyancith "the old pre-1994 all-numeric serial number system" but can't find any further reading material about this. I see similar, almost identical looking bags on ebay but none with all numeric creed patches and of course, not all sellers even show the patch.

So, can anyone direct me to another thread/guide to read about this? By the way, I paid $8.00 for this bag and was in my opinion, a steal. lol

I see that you have posted on the authentication thread, that is the best place to get answers. Good luck!
 
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