Fox in Action

[KittieKelly]

I doubt it. To ban people from wearing fur, it would have to be made illegal. If this continues down this vein, we'll be getting furs from China or Russia. I don't think Canada has ban fur farms yet.

I would love to get both but that's not in the cards right now. I may have to put it on the back burner for now since we just had something come up with our 21 yr old son. While I love the golden one, I'm kinda leaning toward the silver fox because it's bust measurement is a couple of inches larger & the fur is stated to be in excellent condition while the golden fur is stated to be in good condition. I'll just have to wait & see.

Well that's a relief, it would be a shame that all those critters died for nothing.
China furs are cheapy made so the quality is not that great. Russia should fair better. Nearly all of my newer furs are farmed in Finland, a few Italy and Canada. The quality is really nice so as long as we have from those countries we should be ok.
I didn't know the UK banned fur farms in 2000, but yet it seems like they source from over seas, doesn't that defeat the purpose? Ahh I guess where there's a will there's a way!
Oh no sorry to hear about your son, hope everything will be alright.
If the silver is in better cond. then that would be the wiser choice.

I had a bad dream last night about my white fox, it was ripping all over the place like paper!

Good grief. This is insane. I thought fur was kinda part of their culture. I definitely feel like fur is making a come back here in the US.

I though so too, I'm seeing more and more fur just from local women. The style is catching on.
So if they are banned in other countries does that mean boutiques and the such won't be allowed to sell fur coats from other countries? I'm curious how far they will go to stop it.

 

[cdtracing]

Well that's a relief, it would be a shame that all those critters died for nothing.
China furs are cheapy made so the quality is not that great. Russia should fair better. Nearly all of my newer furs are farmed in Finland, a few Italy and Canada. The quality is really nice so as long as we have from those countries we should be ok.
I didn't know the UK banned fur farms in 2000, but yet it seems like they source from over seas, doesn't that defeat the purpose? Ahh I guess where there's a will there's a way!
Oh no sorry to hear about your son, hope everything will be alright.
If the silver is in better cond. then that would be the wiser choice.

I had a bad dream last night about my white fox, it was ripping all over the place like paper!



I though so too, I'm seeing more and more fur just from local women. The style is catching on.
So if they are banned in other countries does that mean boutiques and the such won't be allowed to sell fur coats from other countries? I'm curious how far they will go to stop it.

From what I gathered, there will be pressure on Finland to follow in Norway's footsteps. Norway does not contribute as many furs to the global market as they use to. Finland contributes a larger percentage now. I think this is more about banning fur farms. There are fur farms in Canada & the US along with Finland, Russia & some other northern countries in Europe. I think Iceland has some fur farms. If fur farms are totally banned, I imagine there will be a resurgence in the trapping industry.

As for my son, time will tell. He makes poor choices & doesn't want to be accountable for the consequences that result. This is why I may have to put getting another coat off for now. If I'm not able to get it, I'm sure there will be another one.

 

[BagsNBaguettes]

OMG no! What the heck is going on, fur finally makes a come back and now all of a sudden all these companies decided to go fur free. Unbelievable!!
Better stock up now!!
Did you decide which one of those foxes you are getting? Try for both, maybe they can give you a discount on two!

They can't ban people from wearing fur can they?

I think what they're trying to do is revive the trapping industry since people are becoming more adverse to fur farming (due to all of the videos of mistreatment coming out of them) and consider trapping to be less cruel than farming (the animal gets to live it's life as it was meant to before being taken for fur.) It also helps the local economy in a way, as trappers can earn a living over having everything conglomitorized by the fur farms and cutting out the little man.

At least, that's what I'm seeing from it.

 

[KittieKelly]

I think what they're trying to do is revive the trapping industry since people are becoming more adverse to fur farming (due to all of the videos of mistreatment coming out of them) and consider trapping to be less cruel than farming (the animal gets to live it's life as it was meant to before being taken for fur.) It also helps the local economy in a way, as trappers can earn a living over having everything conglomitorized by the fur farms and cutting out the little man.

At least, that's what I'm seeing from it.

This makes sense, and hopefully true. I know most coyote furs are trapped, and some foxes. The quality is inferior to farmed IMO, at least I think so?
If they only use wild caught, lets say mink, wouldn't it limit the color selection? I wonder if those silvery blue gray minks exists in the wild?
If more and more countries enforce a ban wouldn't China then be the world leader in furs? where the animals would be treated far worse compared to better run humane farms?

 

[BagsNBaguettes]

This makes sense, and hopefully true. I know most coyote furs are trapped, and some foxes. The quality is inferior to farmed IMO, at least I think so?
If they only use wild caught, lets say mink, wouldn't it limit the color selection? I wonder if those silvery blue gray minks exists in the wild?
If more and more countries enforce a ban wouldn't China then be the world leader in furs? where the animals would be treated far worse compared to better run humane farms?

Not necessarily, they would have to trap at different times.

They would most likely take minks, for example, that had their winter coats (white) and dye them sapphire (or whatever color) and sell them that way. There are also the naturalized animals to consider, too.

For instance, in South Dakota, a major fur farm out there had a building collapse due to a blizzard one year. The result was that many of the animals got out, bred, and naturalized themselves out there- so now there are Arctic fox, Shadow fox and other color variants out in that state. The same thing has happened with minks, too. Some of the weirder color variants have gotten out due to the enclosures being destroyed by weather, and occsionally, you can see some of them out in the wild.

 

[Rephined]

I read about San Francisco and the possible ban of new fur. Ridiculous!

 

[KittieKelly]

Not necessarily, they would have to trap at different times.

They would most likely take minks, for example, that had their winter coats (white) and dye them sapphire (or whatever color) and sell them that way. There are also the naturalized animals to consider, too.

For instance, in South Dakota, a major fur farm out there had a building collapse due to a blizzard one year. The result was that many of the animals got out, bred, and naturalized themselves out there- so now there are Arctic fox, Shadow fox and other color variants out in that state. The same thing has happened with minks, too. Some of the weirder color variants have gotten out due to the enclosures being destroyed by weather, and occsionally, you can see some of them out in the wild.

Animal activists are responsible for breaking in and releasing minks as well, many of which were reported to be hit by cars and died from starvation.
Fur trapping is brutal, it is legal in my state. Dogs and cats occasionally and accidentally get caught, guess it's a no win either way but If I were a fox Id prefer to live on a farm, fed, and be gassed than to be caught in a leg hold trap suffering for days then shot.
Sad, but I'll wear fur regardless.
Whenever I come across an animal activists I always tell them "be thankful you weren't born a fox!"

 

[BigPurseSue]

KittieKelly, did you ever get a quote on getting your fox coat repaired and cleaned?

Is the ebay seller still being a nutcase?

 

[Rephined]

http://www.truthaboutfur.com/blog/5-reasons-petas-canada-goose-campaign-wrong/

According to this article, the traps used in North America are humane.
A farmed animal that is being regularly fed a diet that promotes fur growth will have a much better pelt than an animal that has been foraging or hunting in the wild. Animal rights activists seem to think that wild animals are living a Disney movie lifestyle, frolicking about, singing songs and that sort of thing. The reality is not so pleasant. Animals that are lower on the food chain, like mink, spend a lot of time trying not to be some other animal's lunch or starving to death. I wish they would get an understanding of this.

 

[KittieKelly]

KittieKelly, did you ever get a quote on getting your fox coat repaired and cleaned?

Is the ebay seller still being a nutcase?

Hi yes I was just about to post about it
Neiman Marcus called this morning, the quote was only 250 for the repair and cleaning of the fur and lining, not bad at all.
The lady said she will give me the 100 bucks tomorrow...we shall see. The coat will be ready sometime next week. I'm so happy it was fixable and nothing else was wrong, and very affordable. The cleaning fee was 85, the rest was for the repair.

http://www.truthaboutfur.com/blog/5-reasons-petas-canada-goose-campaign-wrong/

According to this article, the traps used in North America are humane.
A farmed animal that is being regularly fed a diet that promotes fur growth will have a much better pelt than an animal that has been foraging or hunting in the wild. Animal rights activists seem to think that wild animals are living a Disney movie lifestyle, frolicking about, singing songs and that sort of thing. The reality is not so pleasant. Animals that are lower on the food chain, like mink, spend a lot of time trying not to be some other animal's lunch or starving to death. I wish they would get an understanding of this.

And not to mention how many are dead on the roads. All day that's all I see, dead critters everywhere. A beautiful Grey fox ran across our car just last week, he made it, but just a minute earlier and he would have been squashed. They also come down with distemper, and rabies is fairly high in my neck of the woods. So yes it's a hard life. They want to save everything, but they forget humans rely on animals for lots of things, food, medicine, clothing etc.
The problem with the traps is the hunter has to get to them in time, and sometimes they do not, they only check the traps around here every few days. By that time the animal is trying to chew off it's leg.
They hunt coyotes year round where I live, fox season starts soon. It varies I think when they can use the leg hold traps.

 

[BigPurseSue]

Hi yes I was just about to post about it
Neiman Marcus called this morning, the quote was only 250 for the repair and cleaning of the fur and lining, not bad at all.
The lady said she will give me the 100 bucks tomorrow...we shall see. The coat will be ready sometime next week. I'm so happy it was fixable and nothing else was wrong, and very affordable. The cleaning fee was 85, the rest was for the repair.

Yow! I need to start charging family members for repairing their fur coats. Glad to hear everything's working out and your coat will soon be on the mend.

Inspired by this conversation I watched a YouTube video of fur cleaning and was astonished by the process. Sawdust...who knew?

 

[Prada_Princess]

Banning fur farming is just ridiculous when people say meat and wear leather. Besides people will always wear it so better produce it in ethical conditions.

 

[KittieKelly]

Yow! I need to start charging family members for repairing their fur coats. Glad to hear everything's working out and your coat will soon be on the mend.

Inspired by this conversation I watched a YouTube video of fur cleaning and was astonished by the process. Sawdust...who knew?

I know right? I occasionally clean my furs at home with Lana's fur cleaning supplies. One of which is sawdust just like the pro's use. It doesn't get tumbled the proper way though, it just goes in a bag and you tumble it yourself lol, but the coats do come out much cleaner and fresher.

Banning fur farming is just ridiculous when people say meat and wear leather. Besides people will always wear it so better produce it in ethical conditions.

Exactly, they don't understand humans will always use animals in some way shape or form. If we didn't we will eventually lower ourselves on the food chain and may end up becoming prey!

 

[Flip88]

I know right? I occasionally clean my furs at home with Lana's fur cleaning supplies. One of which is sawdust just like the pro's use. It doesn't get tumbled the proper way though, it just goes in a bag and you tumble it yourself lol, but the coats do come out much cleaner and fresher.




Exactly, they don't understand humans will always use animals in some way shape or form. If we didn't we will eventually lower ourselves on the food chain and may end up becoming prey!

Banning fur farming is a bad move for animals. Countries such as China will just step in and fill the gap.

 

[Flip88]

May I ask your learned opinions please? The fur in this photo is from a furrier in England who is on Instagram @emiloufur Next to the classic red fox is what she calls an Amber frosted fox fur. What do you think in terms of its apparent texture and colour? It kind of looks similar to blue fox but I think I prefer this. I am considering asking her to make something for me out of this fox type (not sure what yet but probably a short jacket).

Any thoughts ??