For the Love of Coach

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I don't think the person who posted she was surprised she was carrying coach meant it in that bad a way honestly, especially if she is in the fashion industry. Coach's reputation has been battered honestly by the business and stock journals for precisely what she was talking about. The problem is the outlets, and that coach stocks have tanked in the last year. The business journals have scads of articles about whether or not coach is going to be able to come back to being considered a luxury brand. So to put our heads in the sand doesn't necessarily work. Instead, it's probably better to be nice and embrace each person coming "back into the fold" so to speak rather than attacking people for stating the obvious. Coach has indeed hurt their brand. As much as I wish it wasn't so, it just is. So instead of being upset, perhaps it would be better to embrace people, even if they are surprised at better quality, rather than attacking them for staying what the entire business community has been talking about for the last two years. Coach's stock is indeed in trouble. Attacking people who are out of the blue excited about buying coach bags again isn't going to help. All we can do to embrace them back into the fold again is a good thing. Calling them *****es or the like won't help, nor will not looking at the facts. Coach has taken a beating in the last few years. Unless it gets its cache back, it's in trouble. I love the history as well. And I just bought my new swagger, but I do think being kind to people coming back to the brand will only help. Coach took a huge loss on its stock. Huge. It's trying to remake itself. But being kind to people who are again excited about the brand is a positive, not a negative. While I hate to say it, it's honestly unrealistic not to admit that coach just doesn't have the cache they once did. They just don't. They've hurt themselves a lot by their business models, sending things to the outlet too fast, discounting too much. I'm hoping they can pull themselves back from the brink. But let's not make things worse by attacking those who are merely stating the truth. Coach has honestly been in trouble and still is. Let's embrace those coming back rather than attacking them. The more good word of mouth the better. Attacking them for staying the truth of what's happened over the past few years won't help. I know this won't be a popular post. But I think kindness would go a lot longer than attacking. Otherwise it's just reinforcing a stereotype. I do understand being protective of something you love and that other designers have had quality issues as well, but regardless of quality, Coach's own business plan has been horrible for the company. I'm hoping they can pull themselves back out of the hole, but to not admit they are in the hole, and that its a problem, is naive. The more good word of mouth, the better, honestly.
 
The thing is that I think most of us are fine with someone being excited about it, but we are less fine with someone being tactless and insulting at the same time. I get what you are saying, but I can't be in full agreement. As for attacking, I think it was more several people feeling relief about expressing how frustrating that was to read--and not so much about Coach but that the original poster was not being all that kind in a forum she had just entered for the first time. IMO.
 
The thing is that I think most of us are fine with someone being excited about it, but we are less fine with someone being tactless and insulting at the same time. I get what you are saying, but I can't be in full agreement. As for attacking, I think it was more several people feeling relief about expressing how frustrating that was to read--and not so much about Coach but that the original poster was not being all that kind in a forum she had just entered for the first time. IMO.
Ditto, Alexa5. 100 percent. Expressing delight is one thing and is most definitely welcome - going into detail about previously bought, "higher end" bags and her shock about what she once deemed as inferior is another.
 
I don't think the person who posted she was surprised she was carrying coach meant it in that bad a way honestly, especially if she is in the fashion industry. Coach's reputation has been battered honestly by the business and stock journals for precisely what she was talking about. The problem is the outlets, and that coach stocks have tanked in the last year. The business journals have scads of articles about whether or not coach is going to be able to come back to being considered a luxury brand. So to put our heads in the sand doesn't necessarily work. Instead, it's probably better to be nice and embrace each person coming "back into the fold" so to speak rather than attacking people for stating the obvious. Coach has indeed hurt their brand. As much as I wish it wasn't so, it just is. So instead of being upset, perhaps it would be better to embrace people, even if they are surprised at better quality, rather than attacking them for staying what the entire business community has been talking about for the last two years. Coach's stock is indeed in trouble. Attacking people who are out of the blue excited about buying coach bags again isn't going to help. All we can do to embrace them back into the fold again is a good thing. Calling them *****es or the like won't help, nor will not looking at the facts. Coach has taken a beating in the last few years. Unless it gets its cache back, it's in trouble. I love the history as well. And I just bought my new swagger, but I do think being kind to people coming back to the brand will only help. Coach took a huge loss on its stock. Huge. It's trying to remake itself. But being kind to people who are again excited about the brand is a positive, not a negative. While I hate to say it, it's honestly unrealistic not to admit that coach just doesn't have the cache they once did. They just don't. They've hurt themselves a lot by their business models, sending things to the outlet too fast, discounting too much. I'm hoping they can pull themselves back from the brink. But let's not make things worse by attacking those who are merely stating the truth. Coach has honestly been in trouble and still is. Let's embrace those coming back rather than attacking them. The more good word of mouth the better. Attacking them for staying the truth of what's happened over the past few years won't help. I know this won't be a popular post. But I think kindness would go a lot longer than attacking. Otherwise it's just reinforcing a stereotype. I do understand being protective of something you love and that other designers have had quality issues as well, but regardless of quality, Coach's own business plan has been horrible for the company. I'm hoping they can pull themselves back out of the hole, but to not admit they are in the hole, and that its a problem, is naive. The more good word of mouth, the better, honestly.

I love Coach, use almost all of mine regularly, have never sold any, and have only given away two or three to family (because they really wanted them, not because I no longer liked them). Last two bags I bought, were Coach.

..... But this is true. Sad, yet unflinchingly true.
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Ditto, Alexa5. 100 percent. Expressing delight is one thing and is most definitely welcome - going into detail about previously bought, "higher end" bags and her shock about what she once deemed as inferior is another.


I agree with you on this. But I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't mean it like that. I mean I was crowing about how much I like my swagger too.
 
I was reading the comment section of the article on bag shaming that's on the purseblog right now. ( not sure you all have seen it ) One of the women commenting said something about her friend "who carries Guess and Coach" shames her for her luxury bags and then goes on to say at any given time "her friend has a dozen cheap bags that don't last", but she ( the commenter ) would rather have a few "classic pieces she can use for years." Um....what? Coach not last? * looking at my mint condition 19 year old Madison Sutton satchel*
You can beat your sweet handbags I commented defending Coach. ;)
 
I was reading the comment section of the article on bag shaming that's on the purseblog right now. ( not sure you all have seen it ) One of the women commenting said something about her friend "who carries Guess and Coach" shames her for her luxury bags and then goes on to say at any given time "her friend has a dozen cheap bags that don't last", but she ( the commenter ) would rather have a few "classic pieces she can use for years." Um....what? Coach not last? * looking at my mint condition 19 year old Madison Sutton satchel*
You can beat your sweet handbags I commented defending Coach. ;)
Good for you! Half of my Coach collection is over 15 years old. My suede watermelon satchel is over 40 years old!
 
Love this thread! Both my mom & I started collecting Coach decades ago. We started my SIL on Coach as well. Just this weekend, for Valentine's Day, I gifted my 11 y/o niece her 1st Coach wristlet. For the ladies in my family Coach is inter-generational!
 
Love this thread! Both my mom & I started collecting Coach decades ago. We started my SIL on Coach as well. Just this weekend, for Valentine's Day, I gifted my 11 y/o niece her 1st Coach wristlet. For the ladies in my family Coach is inter-generational!

Aw, I really love that! What a good auntie you are!
 
I just read the article, and I honestly don't think it came off as snobby as all, maybe a little naive? It's absolutely true that people still think that all COACH does are khaki monogram bags, because thats what majority of people see at their local super market or target, wherever. Bad outlet bags that have been completely mass produced. When I started carrying COACH again 2 years ago, (and yes I suppose I/m one of the snobs that used coach as a starter brand then moved on to LV, burberry, etc..) but when I walked back into that boutique two years ago I had no idea they were producing that kind of designs they were, since then I have purchased about 30 bags, which may be a bit excessive, but thats a whole other story. But even now when I use a borough or a crosby or a sadie, my friends assume its a new dior or burberry and I absolutely blow their minds when I tell them it's coach. Because people still expect to see over produced and overexposed jacquard khaki monogram. (not that theres anything wrong with owning one!) As the poster above said this is no ones fault but Coach themselves, they have diluted their brand, and they need to get it together. My only regret is that no one guided me back to coach sooner, I would have loved a sabrina or juliette!
 
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