Where does the onus fall on these sites that allow illegal replica items to be sold? At what point would the authorities prosecute a seller or host for allowing said activities? Knowing this is illegal, what is proactively being done about it? Is this a major concern for others aside from buyers looking for a pre-loved authentic luxury item? Or a lack of understanding how buying a fraudulent item harms others? Maybe it's a stupid question, I'm just curious to know thoughts on this.
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Where does the onus fall on these sites that allow illegal replica items to be sold? At what point would the authorities prosecute a seller or host for allowing said activities? Knowing this is illegal, what is proactively being done about it? Is this a major concern for others aside from buyers looking for a pre-loved authentic luxury item? Or a lack of understanding how buying a fraudulent item harms others? Maybe it's a stupid question, I'm just curious to know thoughts on this.
Another reason for reporting a listing is "non PM transaction" such as where the seller explicitly states they will sell for less on Mercari or PP. I have often wondered if PM acts more swiftly on those notifications vs. fakes. I don't think they care about fakes but you'd think they would object to losing the commission ...
I've tried a couple of things in regards to fakes and none of them are more than marginally effective...
1) I use their stupid report feature in the event xx many other folks also did, even though it feels like I'm clicking a button that has no connected wires behind it (like my broken dryer... I digress) but I figure if they do ever crack down on me for my other methods, at least I can say I tried doing what they've requested without seeing resolution
2) I tag the seller in one of my own listings that aren't for sale, something way down far in my closet, and tell them I'm very sorry but they've got a fake, I offer to make a listing comparing/collaging their item's photos to authentic items of my own in the same poses (if I have the item) and refer them to TPF for help authenticating their item. I take down anything I create after they remove their listing. I could avoid this whole hassle if they just had a message feature!
3) if they don't take it down, then I start tagging the interested folks in a buried listing of mine, giving them the heads up to seek help authenticating before buying from TPF or poshmark members I trust
4) I email posh directly for repeat offenders that get shut down and keep making new accounts--I figure those are the dirtbags that need the most attention and I don't want to bug posh for every little thing--I save them for the nuclear option lol!
5) my sneaky giggle tactic: sometimes I'm a cranky pants and I comment directly on their listing but I tag "@pm_editor" and they take it down themselves bc they think they're gonna get canned--I don't even know if that's a real account belonging to posh headquarters! (I learned it from detectives--they always call and say their case needs prioritized per their Sargent or DA assigned to prosecute and then when I ask who so I can just follow-up with them and let them know the status, the detective always just backs down bc they said it on the chance I'd be scared of the chain of command name drop. Apparently it works on the new analysts! And sometimes it works on posh sellers with guilty consciences!)
To the person that said posh doesn't care about the buyer getting screwed bc the sellers are the one paying the fees: you are so smart and correct!!
I did have a fit one day and reported poshmark to stopfakes on the louboutin website. They got back to me and simply stated poshmark is not an authorized retailer. That's it. So as long as posh makes money and the entities being robbed by counterfeits don't financially/legally punish poshmark, I'm pretty sure poshmark won't proactively do anything to stop the counterfeits.
1) I use their stupid report feature in the event xx many other folks also did, even though it feels like I'm clicking a button that has no connected wires behind it (like my broken dryer... I digress) but I figure if they do ever crack down on me for my other methods, at least I can say I tried doing what they've requested without seeing resolution
2) I tag the seller in one of my own listings that aren't for sale, something way down far in my closet, and tell them I'm very sorry but they've got a fake, I offer to make a listing comparing/collaging their item's photos to authentic items of my own in the same poses (if I have the item) and refer them to TPF for help authenticating their item. I take down anything I create after they remove their listing. I could avoid this whole hassle if they just had a message feature!
3) if they don't take it down, then I start tagging the interested folks in a buried listing of mine, giving them the heads up to seek help authenticating before buying from TPF or poshmark members I trust
4) I email posh directly for repeat offenders that get shut down and keep making new accounts--I figure those are the dirtbags that need the most attention and I don't want to bug posh for every little thing--I save them for the nuclear option lol!
5) my sneaky giggle tactic: sometimes I'm a cranky pants and I comment directly on their listing but I tag "@pm_editor" and they take it down themselves bc they think they're gonna get canned--I don't even know if that's a real account belonging to posh headquarters! (I learned it from detectives--they always call and say their case needs prioritized per their Sargent or DA assigned to prosecute and then when I ask who so I can just follow-up with them and let them know the status, the detective always just backs down bc they said it on the chance I'd be scared of the chain of command name drop. Apparently it works on the new analysts! And sometimes it works on posh sellers with guilty consciences!)
To the person that said posh doesn't care about the buyer getting screwed bc the sellers are the one paying the fees: you are so smart and correct!!
I did have a fit one day and reported poshmark to stopfakes on the louboutin website. They got back to me and simply stated poshmark is not an authorized retailer. That's it. So as long as posh makes money and the entities being robbed by counterfeits don't financially/legally punish poshmark, I'm pretty sure poshmark won't proactively do anything to stop the counterfeits.
Yeah. They don't act on those either. Which makes me think they reallllllllly don't care about the fakes if they don't even care about the folks robbing them of their own consignment fees!
I love your sneaky @pm_editor! Such a smart tactic! That made me laugh. Ebay doesn't pull down the ones offering to take the sale off site for a discount either.Yeah. They don't act on those either. Which makes me think they reallllllllly don't care about the fakes if they don't even care about the folks robbing them of their own consignment fees!
It's really thoughtful of you to do all of this, especially to make listings in your own closest to inform sellers and potential buyers of fraudulent items. I know it is well intentioned, but most helpful people on Poshmark will just pick a random listing out of my closet and write something like, "Don't buy xxx's Bag, it is fake!!", "Don't buy the bag, the seller is a scammer!", etc. But then I worry that potential buyers will see these comments and mistakenly think that the person is commenting about my listing, not someone else's listing. The worst is when they tag the seller of the fraudulent item and other people who "liked" the listing in their comment in my closet, and then I get a war on my completely unrelated listing among dramatic people hurling accusations and foul language.
When I see a fake that has sold as an authentic item, if I can tell who the buyer is by the comments, I will go to the buyer's account and comment. This saves some drama because usually the sellers get nasty when I comment on direct listings, so I prefer to warn the buyer directly. I try to go to a sold listing or their "About me" listing so that they know, and I try to make the comment more informative than not so that people don't automatically scroll and see the word "fake" or something (I've referred people to TPF and lollipuff as well) . I will sometimes tag them in my own listing as well, it just depends. I never tag the seller of the fake, though. This is asking for trouble!
I can see what you mean about people maybe reading it the wrong way, but I haven't heard anyone complain about an instance of that happening. When I have made comments, people are always very appreciative that they were saved them from buying a fake
With situations like this, I just can't sit back and not say anything and let someone spend money on counterfeits...
I recently sold a diaper bag set on poshmark. On May 21st I shipped it out and as of today I still do t have my funds. The buyer is claiming my set was not authentic. It's 100% authentic and I cannot get posh to respond to my emails. Has anyone had this happen? How long did it take for a resolution? What exactly did they do yo "authenticate"? Since I don't physically have the bag and all there is left is my listing how can I prove that it is authentic? For all I know this buyer used my set for what she needed and is making false claims so she doesn't have to pay for it. Should I report theft? Here is the link to my listing. https://bnc.lt/m/WMy33Ere1t Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
When I see a fake that has sold as an authentic item, if I can tell who the buyer is by the comments, I will go to the buyer's account and comment. This saves some drama because usually the sellers get nasty when I comment on direct listings, so I prefer to warn the buyer directly. I try to go to a sold listing or their "About me" listing so that they know, and I try to make the comment more informative than not so that people don't automatically scroll and see the word "fake" or something (I've referred people to TPF and lollipuff as well) . I will sometimes tag them in my own listing as well, it just depends. I never tag the seller of the fake, though. This is asking for trouble!
I can see what you mean about people maybe reading it the wrong way, but I haven't heard anyone complain about an instance of that happening. When I have made comments, people are always very appreciative that they were saved them from buying a fake
Definitely! If a fake item has sold, or someone looks like they are about to buy it, it is a huge favor to them to let them know, even if it is on an active listing of theirs (though it is very nice of you to write it on a sold listing or on their "about me" page). On Poshmark there are so many fakes that when a item seems nice at a good price, I always ask additional questions (ask for more photos, ask if it is actually on sale on PM vs PP only, etc), because just being above $500 means nothing about whether it is fake or not. I used to think if it is above $500, then I will just buy it, because I will get my money back if it is fake, and I might get a good deal. In the early days of Poshmark, I did get a couple of good deals this way. In the past year, 100% of my purchases of items sold as authentic over $500 (anywhere from $500-$6,000) have been deemed fake by Poshmark and the sale then canceled, or the sale has been immediately canceled by the seller (I assume they are looking to sell their fake off the site but pretending it is for sale on PM so people don't get suspicious, or PM just keeps my money with no sale confirmation and the seller ignoring my questions until the 7 days (?) has passed and I can cancel myself). Recently I bought a Hermes bag for about $6,000 on the site, which is a good price but not crazy enough to scream fake (you can find such deals on eBay if you stalk 24/7 and read the Authentic Finds threads etc on this forum, and I recently sold an authentic one for a little less than that) and the seller ignored me after the purchase, Poshmark said there was nothing they could do until 7 days had passed without the seller confirming the sale, so I had to wait for my refund for 7 days! Meanwhile people were trying to buy the listing off the site via PP despite my comments on the listing that I had bought the item and that they should not purchase because the seller was not shipping it to me after purchase! I think the latest scam trend is sellers with a lot of new looking, in-demand bags for about retail price (maybe slightly higher or slightly lower). I'm sure 99.9% of them are fake.
Ugh!
SHeesh! They won't remove the obvious fakes I've reported, posted on sellers' listings and even discussed in a long email to PM but they hold your money for an authentic bag?
There's nothing wrong with the tote. It's a multi-function mini sig tote from 2003.
Did she say why she thinks it's fake?
Is she questioning the font on the creed? Although bags from the same plant usually have the same font, it looks like Coach changed the font at the K plant between 2003 and 2004.
Your creed is exactly as it should be and has the correct text, font and information for a bag made at the K plant in 2003. Refer the buyer here.
If you'd like me to post comparison pictures, I can do so. If you'd like, I can also post a comment on the listing and/or the bag can be posted on AT Coach.
I had someone offer my 60% less than my asking price of a designer SLG that I had up for sale. I didn't respond but went ahead and made an offer on one of her designer items at 60% also. She abruptly declines and writes, "Are you kidding me? Please let you offer elsewhere."
The hypocrisy is real.
The hypocrisy is real.
I've literally emailed posh 5 times since I got the notice that the seller reported as not being authentic and all I've gotten from posh was a very form email saying it takes 2weeks to authenticate. I have zero clue why she is claiming it isn't authentic. I've had a couple posh "old timers" send emails to posh stating that my set is authentic and I still have not heard anything back. I blocked the seller because I don't want her bashing my items. I've removed everything I had for sell because I will not longer give 20% to a company that can't even answer a dang email. Meanwhile fake bags are getting host picks. I'm so sick over this. https://bnc.lt/m/MsgKFKCr1t (Fake bag getting a host pick)
The last email I sent to posh this morning I simply said release my funds or have my set sent back today or I'm filing a report for theft. I will no longer purchase or sell using this site.
The last email I sent to posh this morning I simply said release my funds or have my set sent back today or I'm filing a report for theft. I will no longer purchase or sell using this site.
This is what I get for selling a set for $55. It's really not worth all this headache.
I'm going to comment on that listing. I don't know how but will try to tag the buyer.
She got an unbelievable deal for $55!