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I know where you come from, and you have my fullest sympathy. But (un)fortunately that's how it works at Hermès and it's up to you wether you want to embrace it or not.

For me, Hermès is not only Birkin's and Kelly's, even though it's been affiliated with those bags... I've purchased a variety of items, ranging from RTW to accessories, Homeware, Fabrics and tapestry - I'm head over moon with this brand, I can't help it - but I only shop what I like.

If you have no interest in building up a relationship with a SA, take a plane and try Paris. Many tpf members have been successful in scoring either of the coveted bags as walk ins, that is, if you want to experience the whole shopping experience with them... otherwise, go the reseller route.

Good luck my dear. :heart:
 
The thing is, if I spend $12,000 at a Four Seasons hotel or on a first class flight- I'd be treated very well. If I went to Cartier with thousands of dollars, they'd be happy to sell to me. These are 'exclusive' brands that don't act like jerks.

A Birkin / Kelly does not cost $12,000. It costs $12,000 PLUS all the scarves, leather goods, belts, weird things that you wouldn't have bought if you weren't interested in the B K. It's a classic trick called 'upselling' except at Hermes its done in a weird, insulting way. A reseller will sell you a B K for extra thousands- but to me, it sounds worth it. You get to pick the colour and shape. You don't have all this random crap around your house. You don't have to beg or convince someone.

For me, there is no way the experience is 'worth it'. It sounds very stressful and boring, to be honest. Sounds like begging. Idk about everyone else, but I don't feel 'exclusive' when I beg.

Your choice at the end of the day- but to act as if Hermes aren't a bit snotty is strange. You are paying a premium, so you do deserve fantastic customer service.
 
The thing is, if I spend $12,000 at a Four Seasons hotel or on a first class flight- I'd be treated very well. If I went to Cartier with thousands of dollars, they'd be happy to sell to me. These are 'exclusive' brands that don't act like jerks.

A Birkin / Kelly does not cost $12,000. It costs $12,000 PLUS all the scarves, leather goods, belts, weird things that you wouldn't have bought if you weren't interested in the B K. It's a classic trick called 'upselling' except at Hermes its done in a weird, insulting way. A reseller will sell you a B K for extra thousands- but to me, it sounds worth it. You get to pick the colour and shape. You don't have all this random crap around your house. You don't have to beg or convince someone.

For me, there is no way the experience is 'worth it'. It sounds very stressful and boring, to be honest. Sounds like begging. Idk about everyone else, but I don't feel 'exclusive' when I beg.

Your choice at the end of the day- but to act as if Hermes aren't a bit snotty is strange. You are paying a premium, so you do deserve fantastic customer service.
I can assure you any of the accessories around my home, belts or the jewelry I have purchased from H are not considered by me to be "random crap around your house". But that's just me.
 
I can assure you any of the accessories around my home, belts or the jewelry I have purchased from H are not considered by me to be "random crap around your house". But that's just me.

Question: Did you buy them to get a Birkin, or because you love them?

Obviously, there's a difference. There are countless stories of people buying belts, slgs, scarves.... all to convince a SA. I'd never buy luxury unless I loved it. Luxury should make you feel good, not be part of some ploy to get an SA to love you back.
 
The thing is, if I spend $12,000 at a Four Seasons hotel or on a first class flight- I'd be treated very well. If I went to Cartier with thousands of dollars, they'd be happy to sell to me. These are 'exclusive' brands that don't act like jerks.

A Birkin / Kelly does not cost $12,000. It costs $12,000 PLUS all the scarves, leather goods, belts, weird things that you wouldn't have bought if you weren't interested in the B K. It's a classic trick called 'upselling' except at Hermes its done in a weird, insulting way. A reseller will sell you a B K for extra thousands- but to me, it sounds worth it. You get to pick the colour and shape. You don't have all this random crap around your house. You don't have to beg or convince someone.

For me, there is no way the experience is 'worth it'. It sounds very stressful and boring, to be honest. Sounds like begging. Idk about everyone else, but I don't feel 'exclusive' when I beg.

Your choice at the end of the day- but to act as if Hermes aren't a bit snotty is strange. You are paying a premium, so you do deserve fantastic customer service.

I so agree with all of this. I have exactly zero interest in buying current Birkins, Kellys, or Constances-- my preference is simply for vintage bags, for many reasons-- but I find it incredibly distasteful simply knowing that Hermes expects certain clients at certain boutiques to genuflect for a handbag. I still end up shopping there, but I buy according to my own tastes and desires, and there is nothing Hermes can give me or withhold from me that will alter my behavior. I will never need anything they have, and I've walked out of boutiques carefree and without regret when they've tried to game me or simply failed to provide adequate service.

IMO it's completely reasonable for someone who does want the modern bags to feel frustrated, thwarted, disgusted, and any number of other things. It's certainly economically feasible for Hermes right now to say (as many on this thread have said), "We don't care about you if you don't like our games; go shop elsewhere," but the key is: RIGHT NOW they can say that. I, too, remember the days of walking in to a boutique and seeing BBKs sitting on the shelves for weeks. Those days will come again, and Hermes better hope they are sitting on so many billions that they don't need to care when some other status symbol comes along to ***** the Birkin. I don't say that because I think their bags are only status symbols. I do believe in the craftsmanship and inherent value of the bags I own. I say it because at the end of the day, quality and service is what keeps clients loyal after fashion and conspicuous consumption have hopped on to something else-- as they always do, by their nature. And it's not clear to me that Hermes is offering the appropriate level of quality and service these days.

And I also agree with the point that @jmen made subtly, which is that this kind of corporate policy opens the door to all kinds of racism and other types of bigotry, when you get to choose who "deserves" your bags. I've benefited from that bigotry in the past. It doesn't make me feel like I accomplished anything.
 
Question: Did you buy them to get a Birkin, or because you love them?

Obviously, there's a difference. There are countless stories of people buying belts, slgs, scarves.... all to convince a SA. I'd never buy luxury unless I loved it. Luxury should make you feel good, not be part of some ploy to get an SA to love you back.
I buy things from this brand because I WANT to. I don't think people go in to Hermes and feel as if they buy things they don't WANT they'll get offered a chance to buy a B/K. But that's my experience. I've never felt pressured to spend any amount of money at any given visit by any SA.
 
I buy things from this brand because I WANT to. I don't think people go in to Hermes and feel as if they buy things they don't WANT they'll get offered a chance to buy a B/K. But that's my experience. I've never felt pressured to spend any amount of money at any given visit by any SA.

Key word: YOUR EXPERIENCE. I made it quite clear in my original post that I was talking about people who buy belts and products to make an SA happy. Obviously, my post doesn't apply to people who love the products and would have bought them regardless. You misinterpreted my post, and took it personal.

There are countless stories of people buying Hermes products to get an S.A to like them. Countless. A quick google search will do you fine.

Your experience is not the same as millions of others.
 
I can assure you any of the accessories around my home, belts or the jewelry I have purchased from H are not considered by me to be "random crap around your house". But that's just me.
Me too! I love all my "random crap" from Hermes, from a small thing like a bandana, a bastia to special ordered bags, to wall paper! Those "random crap" make me happy every time I use/see them.
 
Money is money; goods should be available to whomever and that is the why I was able to purchase a Kelly off the shelf years ago. If all companies operated on today's Hermes model, how long do you think they would last? Worse yet you are this ethnicity or look, speak a certain way ergo we are say no to you. The only reason h can play this is because once in you are in; it matters not if you buy just to resell. That is the rub right there. We have seen floor to ceiling closets filled with Hermes. Truly gasp worthy and I say really, how many pursed does a person need? Anywho it is what it is and we all see things from a different perspective. Namaste.

Having money doesn’t mean you can buy anything you want unfortunately and anyone who thinks this way usually in for a surprise. I’m not condoning Hermes business tactics but it’s obviously a good one. Not everyone has to like it and those who don’t can take their money elsewhere.
 
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