cz versus the real deal...

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...a cz is not a knock off first of all.....and just because u think its ridiculous doesnt mean it is to other people...how can you call it ridiculous...seriously.....a diamond does not mean anything....a 5 carat diamond doesnt mean someone loves you more than a .25 carat diamond but people like you think that....you cant call it a cheap knock off.....

some people cant afford diamonds because they are so expensive....so why cant people have a cz....theres nothing wrong with it...but people like you make other people feel like they cant do stuff like that because you just think its so "ridiculous".....or maybe some people dont want a "real" diamond....i for one DONT want a real diamond and i WANT a CZ...and you can call me fake all you want...but i dont have a problem wanting a CZ for an engagment ring....i dont think its a "cheap knock off" or "fake" or how ever people like you feel about them....

no matter what...that pretty little diamond on your finger doesnt mean your husband loves you more than someone wearing a CZ.....

its a waste of money to purchase a diamond...its the worst investment EVER. and thats how i feel about that:cursing:


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As long as both partners know it is CZ (i.e. he is not trying to lie to her and pass it off as something it isn't), then I have no issue if that is what someone chooses for an engagement ring. It isn't the money or the stone or the metal that makes a marriage, and in many cases couples would be better off if they saved the money dropped on an engagement ring to go towards a downpayment on a home.

If I had known about them at the time, I would have gladly accepted a Moissonite for an engagement ring. Although everyone likes pretty, sparkly things, jewelry isn't my "thing". To me, Moissonite is a real stone and it is more my style because I don't care so much to drop big bucks on a ring. I have a hard time comparing either CZ or Moissonite to fake bags because diamonds have never had a patent on being mostly clear and sparkly. Just because someone doesn't want a diamond doesn't mean they are pretending. They just have different priorities.
 
Whoa people...isn't it just a difference of opinion?!? Doesn't one person have the right to think it's acceptable, and another the right to think it's ridiculous? As long as no one is attacking anyone directly, isn't that okay??? I think those that think it's ridiculous feel that way because cz is man made. Zircon is mined and a natural stone, but cubic zirconia is not. It's completely fabricated by man. It's cool for one person to be okay with that, and another to want a genuine stone, whether or not it's a diamond (which is how I feel) for an engagement ring. I don't think a large diamond means a man loves you more. I do think that since it symbolizes love and commitment (to me anyway) I'd rather have a natural diamond or a natural gemstone. No disrespect to anyone. It's just my feelings, KWIM?
 
Hmm this a good thread!!

I would 100% want a real diamond for my engagement ring, I want an antique emerald cut soliatre. I have seen it in a vintage jewelry shop, lol getting ahead of myself!!
CZ just wouldn't feel the same, I mean if your DH cant splash out on your ring that you are going to wear forever, then it just seems a bit weird to me! I mean it does have to be in your budget, like I think its stupid when men are broke because they have brought a HUGE rock, kwim?

But saying that, a girl I know shes 21 so slightly older has just got engaged. Her diamond is tiny, and i mean tiny, like i dont know what 0.0? of a carat but tiny! I would prefer a cz if my bf was going to buy me something so small!

I just think everything has to be within your living etc. Like yeh buy a 5ct ring ring if your a football player, but don't buy a tiny ct either. I feel that people who buy a HUGE cz, not for fun but for an egagement ring have insecurities, like they are trying to make up/ show off to people kwim?

Having said that I know for a fact that my friend would have a LOT happier if her bf had brought her a larger cz like even 1/4 or 1/2. I mean know one would have known would they!

I just feel like I have gone round in circles lol! But yeh genuine diamond all the way for me!
 
...a cz is not a knock off first of all.....and just because u think its ridiculous doesnt mean it is to other people...how can you call it ridiculous...seriously.....a diamond does not mean anything....a 5 carat diamond doesnt mean someone loves you more than a .25 carat diamond but people like you think that....you cant call it a cheap knock off.....

some people cant afford diamonds because they are so expensive....so why cant people have a cz....theres nothing wrong with it...but people like you make other people feel like they cant do stuff like that because you just think its so "ridiculous".....or maybe some people dont want a "real" diamond....i for one DONT want a real diamond and i WANT a CZ...and you can call me fake all you want...but i dont have a problem wanting a CZ for an engagment ring....i dont think its a "cheap knock off" or "fake" or how ever people like you feel about them....

no matter what...that pretty little diamond on your finger doesnt mean your husband loves you more than someone wearing a CZ.....

its a waste of money to purchase a diamond...its the worst investment EVER. and thats how i feel about that:cursing:


I am not sure why this thread has gotten so personal and heated.

You have made it very obvious that you don't have a problem with wearing a CZ as an engagement ring, which is totally cool--its your opinion.

But saying some of these comments is just blatantly offensive...I am not sure why the thread has taken a turn in this direction:confused1:
 
I wear mostly cz but finely set in gold or platinum clad, no junk, and it's the highest quality Russian cz. No one knows if I don't tell them and people have complimented it and I see eyes darting towards my neck or my ring finger and have caught people looking at my wrists too come to think of it, lol.

I have a real diamond engagement ring looks cut to look like it's 1.25 but I think it's only 1.12 and when I was pg w/ my first it didn't fit so I stopped wearing it. Instead I got a 2ct tiffany setting round solitaire in white gold and it's very sparkly and realistic.

CZ are a bad choice if you get low quality that don't have depth, it's hard to find a cz in the emerald or princess cut that looks realistic, but a pear or round duplicate the depth of real one very well. I have to take a picture of some of my pieces to convince you guys I have a feeling, lol.

One of my son's will get my solitaire engagement ring for his future wife, another son will get my diamond tennis bracelet that I don't like anymore since I found my russian cz one and the other son we'll have to buy something for since I don't have any other diamond pieces that are comparable to those.

I didn't realize this thread was heated bec. I haven't read any posts and only after I posted it did I notice the above posting. For me I am too careless and worry too much to wear the real thing. I also like that I can get bigger and more impressive pieces when they are fake. I also think they are not a knock off, they are just fake. Who are they knocking off, Zales? It's a natural product from mother earth, it's not copyright infringement.
 
CZ, diamond, gemstone--whatever floats your boat. In the end all the stones we wear are handled by human hands. Some are more handled than others (i.e. completely created by humans vs. heat treated vs. just faceted). In the end jewelry is something sentimental to the wearer (and giver in the case of engagement rings). As long as all parties are able to appreciate that sentimentality it doesn't matter what the physical symbol of that love is.

Enjoy all your rings out there :)

Diana
 
The more I thought about this thread I realized that I was in this very position once when I was engaged. I didn't get my diamond engagement ring until after I was married.

I told him ahead of time that I wanted a 1.5 ct. tiffany solitaire in white gold. I didn't get it. He was a 24 yr old w/ limited funds(was paying off his college ed still) for the kind of diamond I would have been proud to wear. Was I ok with it? Yes and no. Yes, bec. I believed he was the right man for me and a ring says nothing about the quality of the person you are marrying, it just shows how much a person can afford to spend, that's my opinion. But I still wanted one and I was really looking forward when I was single to that element of being engaged, showing off my ring proudly and having people take notice of it, so that part of it bothered me. But what really bothered me most in not having a ring when I got engaged was that people that I told I was engaged or people that I would bump into that knew I was engaged, their eyes would immediately glance at my finger, my bare finger:sad: and I felt very embarrassed and like people thought something was wrong, either that I was marrying a man who was poor or that he didn't care enough to put something on my finger. So I told him my shame and he felt for me. He got me a citizen watch which I wore for a couple of years. I felt better that he at least gave me some symbol of his commitment and I don't remember anymore if I showed it to people, all I know is I felt like he tried and I was happy with that. We discussed getting a cz the night we got engaged actually at my parents' dinner table, I come from an old fashioned home and my dh asked my father's permission at the table and I was never actually proposed to, it was declared at that moment at the dinner table, another thing that fell short of my expectations, oh well, the proposal also is just that, a proposal, not the marriage so I got over it. We would have pretend proposals afterwards that whole first year, lol.
oh, so I never finished, my parents were very anti cz, my mom has beautiful diamonds and she couldn't fathom wearing a fake. I knew nothing about fakes so trusted her that they were hideous.

Then flashforward to a month or so after I'm married. My mom at some point talks to my dh w/out me knowing and tells him that she spoke to her jeweler and they realize my dh could afford a modest ring. It really bothered my mom that I didn't have a ring, I suppose, or she felt for me, I didn't think about it much though after we were married, just when we engaged.

I went with my mom, lol, not my dh, to pick out the ring at her jewelers. It was a little over 1ct round tiffany setting in white gold, the color and sparkle weren't that great, I could even make out a carbon dot in it! I got a small channel set wedding band too for like 400 bucks, maybe it was 300 and I wore them both so proudly. I knew my ring was crappy, but I had one finally, and I would gaze at it with pleasure. The ring maybe cost 1300, and this is back in 2000.

Then one day I was doing laundry at my parents house, we didn't have a laundry machine of our own back then and would go to them on the weekends to do a load or two. I smacked my ring into the washing machine accidentally and I looked at it and I thought I cracked it! There was a ring around the circumference of the lower part of the stone I hadn't noticed before. I ran upstairs to show my dh and parents and my dad said was so angry at his jeweler for selling us a crappy diamond.

My parents brought the diamond ring back to their jeweler together and came back with....an upgrade that they financed themselves. I was certainly happy, it is a stunning solitaire w/ beautiful color and clarity, modest size 1.12 or 1.17 can't remember, still not my dream 1.5 but I wasn't complaining, lol. Turns out the first diamond wasn't cracked, all rounds have that ring around the bottom of the stone and I had never noticed before and my mom doesn't wear a round so she was unfamiliar herself.

So that's my story. It bothered me my dh didn't get me a ring and I probably would have been better off with a cz to begin with since I was embarrassed to have people notice my bare finger and I now wear one even after the fact of owning a real diamond!
 
It was bound to become personal and heated!

This is explained in detail in post 57

http://forum.purseblog.com/3698084-post57.html

Excellent points and absolutely true. Old customs and practices do not die; they get reinvented and translated into the current culture. Many people would be outraged at how many of our marriage practices and other traditions (right down to naming children) stem from the days when women were property to be bought, sold and traded.
 
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