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I just read a thread on here saying the same thing. They recommended a tandy leather product...however, it is discontinued at this point.
It is probably not the correct way to do it, but I usually use fabric puff paint or leather cement, and then do a final coat of edge kote or acrylic paint.
Hi Everyone
I just bought my first Madison - a 1994 Chapin, I think the color is Mandarin, great color.
Would appreciate some guidance on how best to clean and condition it.
The outside looks good and is clean, tho it has lost its original shape a bit, which I don't mind too much.
It has a tiny cut and a few small scrapes. The lining has many pen marks which I can live with,
but I always feel better cleaning linings.
I did some searches here and it seems that folks advise not to dunk these.
(And I saw the problems acetone caused when trying to clean ink from the lining.)
I've already wiped the outside lightly with a damp cloth.
Some color came off, and the small scrapes became dark and visible (see pic#2), then almost disappeared when dry.
- Can I safely use Blackrock to condition & protect - or is there a better conditioner to use?
I would like something that won't permanently darken those scrapes.
- Is it OK to wash the lining in soap & water - and do I have to be careful not to get the leather wet?
- OR am I better off leaving well enough alone?
Any advise greatly appreciated - thanks as always!
I just bought my first Madison - a 1994 Chapin, I think the color is Mandarin, great color.
Would appreciate some guidance on how best to clean and condition it.
The outside looks good and is clean, tho it has lost its original shape a bit, which I don't mind too much.
It has a tiny cut and a few small scrapes. The lining has many pen marks which I can live with,
but I always feel better cleaning linings.
I did some searches here and it seems that folks advise not to dunk these.
(And I saw the problems acetone caused when trying to clean ink from the lining.)
I've already wiped the outside lightly with a damp cloth.
Some color came off, and the small scrapes became dark and visible (see pic#2), then almost disappeared when dry.
- Can I safely use Blackrock to condition & protect - or is there a better conditioner to use?
I would like something that won't permanently darken those scrapes.
- Is it OK to wash the lining in soap & water - and do I have to be careful not to get the leather wet?
- OR am I better off leaving well enough alone?
Any advise greatly appreciated - thanks as always!
I think I've used Blackrock on Madisons. I use it on everything. You can clean the lining with soap and water or other cleaners. It is difficult because it is glued in. I might try a q-tip dipped in alcohol for the ink. I think I have gotten the leather wet before but I would try to avoid it as much as possible. It is possible there is cardboard inside that could get mushy. You can always use a tiny bit of fabric puff paint to fill in the cuts and scrapes. You might be able to steam it to reshape.
Thanks so much for the info and for the fast reply whateve!
The lining on this one isn't glued in, yay, will make it easier to clean.
Ok, so my 30 dollar shipped legacy camel leigh has arrived. There is so much going on with this one. Where to start.
1. There is a water spot on the bottom that will not budge with leather CPR. Wondering if I could add a bit of a light application of water around the edges to soften the line of demarcation? Maybe I should keep working in more CPR?
2. Going to try a vinegar rinse to get rid of a bit of Verdegris from the leather. Good idea? I think I'm going for it.
3. Can someone verify the edging color for camel legacy ? Brown or black? It looks dark brown to me. The dura edge stuff only comes in black or brown.
I still get nervous doing these more intensive bags...even after many years.
1. There is a water spot on the bottom that will not budge with leather CPR. Wondering if I could add a bit of a light application of water around the edges to soften the line of demarcation? Maybe I should keep working in more CPR?
2. Going to try a vinegar rinse to get rid of a bit of Verdegris from the leather. Good idea? I think I'm going for it.
3. Can someone verify the edging color for camel legacy ? Brown or black? It looks dark brown to me. The dura edge stuff only comes in black or brown.
I still get nervous doing these more intensive bags...even after many years.
I'd try cleaning the whole bag with vinegar. It might help with the water spot.
I used saddle soap to blend in a water spot on the bottom of a pond legacy shoulder bag. It worked really well. I just worked it in to that entire section of leather, from seam to seam.
Saddle soap did help clean the area I was working on. It made the spots less noticeable. I've used it before, but forgot about it. Thanks for the recommendation.
I managed to add a bigger water spot by accident while cleaning the lining a day later. (Had it wrapped in a towel, but not good enough I guess....) back to the saddle soap I guess to even it out. I'm thinking it will take a few days to dry completely and may not be too bad. I feel like I'm going in circles and have yet to tackle the difficult edge replacement.
I use these projects to give me stress relief LOL.
I managed to add a bigger water spot by accident while cleaning the lining a day later. (Had it wrapped in a towel, but not good enough I guess....) back to the saddle soap I guess to even it out. I'm thinking it will take a few days to dry completely and may not be too bad. I feel like I'm going in circles and have yet to tackle the difficult edge replacement.
I use these projects to give me stress relief LOL.
I need some help with a stain on my Hamilton pebble grain bag. I just purchased it pre-owned, in excellent condition except there were either tiny spots of dried liquid paint or makeup by the zipper. I tried to remove it with leather cleaner, it didn't work so well, and then I decided to try a dab of warm water. It ended up melting the paint blob which was brown and it just made it worse. It smudged into the leather. At this point, I started to panic and worked even harder to try to remove it. I think I ended up removing pigment from the leather and now it's just a darker spot in the leather. Is there anything I can do to help restore it back to original condition or less noticeable? I read that saphir color creme can help restore but I am uncertain about color matching. I'm at a loss now and don't want to ruin it even further. Thanks.
The spot in the image is circled, it's harder to see on monitors vs in person.
The spot in the image is circled, it's harder to see on monitors vs in person.
Some kind of paint is probably your only solution. I've never used Saphir or Meltonian. It would probably be very hard to match. I would probably use acrylic craft paint. It comes in millions of colors, is cheap, and you can mix until you get a perfect match. You can't put it on straight as the texture is wrong for leather. I would mix with conditioner. If the sheen isn't right, you can use acrylic medium or gloss.I need some help with a stain on my Hamilton pebble grain bag. I just purchased it pre-owned, in excellent condition except there were either tiny spots of dried liquid paint or makeup by the zipper. I tried to remove it with leather cleaner, it didn't work so well, and then I decided to try a dab of warm water. It ended up melting the paint blob which was brown and it just made it worse. It smudged into the leather. At this point, I started to panic and worked even harder to try to remove it. I think I ended up removing pigment from the leather and now it's just a darker spot in the leather. Is there anything I can do to help restore it back to original condition or less noticeable? I read that saphir color creme can help restore but I am uncertain about color matching. I'm at a loss now and don't want to ruin it even further. Thanks.
The spot in the image is circled, it's harder to see on monitors vs in person.
Thanks for the feedback. Is there anything else I should do once I apply acrylic paint mixed with conditioner? I assume I just buff it in? Would there be any issues about the paint steadfastness?
The paint lasts a long time once it sets after a few days. If you condition on top of it too soon, some of it will come off. What is nice is that you can remove it and start over if you don't like your results.