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Nice! She's got that warm glow.
Questions about the red bags.
Hi all. I've been devouring this thread, I started at page one, up to 218 now. During which, I washed, reshaped, and conditioned a black Willis, came out great. It was just dumb luck that my first bag was an unlined black one, just like y'all suggest for rookies. Still waiting for Blackrock to come in the mail before I carry it...
So then I found a red Legacy Zip 9966 at the thrift (just authenticated by Hyacinth!) So I'm all cocky off my first success and ready to dunk again. I carefully cleaned the green off the brass just prior to a good soak and scrub. Thought she was clean, then as she dried, saw a missed dirty area near the zipper (as the leather is so dark while wet I couldn't really see how I was doing on the dirty spots). So I washed again, giving extra attention to where I remembered was dirty.
Anyhow, so two baths, stuffed, dried, and started Leather CPR. Probably have about 4-5 coats on by now. My sponge had a bit of pink on it, but it didn't seem like much, so I kept adding CPR every 12 hours or so, and didn't buff until the last coat, and that's when I noticed that my buffing tshirt rag was getting a bit pink too. And then I freaked out, set her aside, and finally learned how to search a specific thread (apparently you can only do it on a computer, not a phone, duh). BTW, she's really looking great now, but I don't want her to bleed all over me, furniture, car seats...
A "red" search on this thread came up inconclusive. As the general consensus seems to be "yeah, red bags sure do bleed alot". But I can't seem to find how y'all deal with it?
I gave her 3 separate rinse/soaks, about 10 minutes each, and gently rubbed my fingers all over to get the soap out, as one of the washing tutorials made a big deal about getting all the soap out, and my final two rinses were not red. So is this probably "color transfer with conditioning"? And where to go from here? Condition and buff until the rags are not pink? Go for another round of dunking, but only rinsing? :cry: Hang her out in the sun to bake the color in? Then condition again? Or will Blackrock seal it in? OMG information overload, I have no idea what to do. I'm fine with the bag getting darker, more burgundy, I'm a bit ginger, so cherry red clashes with my freckles
This is such an awesome group, thanks for sharing your purse, and personal, lives
Hi all. I've been devouring this thread, I started at page one, up to 218 now. During which, I washed, reshaped, and conditioned a black Willis, came out great. It was just dumb luck that my first bag was an unlined black one, just like y'all suggest for rookies. Still waiting for Blackrock to come in the mail before I carry it...
So then I found a red Legacy Zip 9966 at the thrift (just authenticated by Hyacinth!) So I'm all cocky off my first success and ready to dunk again. I carefully cleaned the green off the brass just prior to a good soak and scrub. Thought she was clean, then as she dried, saw a missed dirty area near the zipper (as the leather is so dark while wet I couldn't really see how I was doing on the dirty spots). So I washed again, giving extra attention to where I remembered was dirty.
Anyhow, so two baths, stuffed, dried, and started Leather CPR. Probably have about 4-5 coats on by now. My sponge had a bit of pink on it, but it didn't seem like much, so I kept adding CPR every 12 hours or so, and didn't buff until the last coat, and that's when I noticed that my buffing tshirt rag was getting a bit pink too. And then I freaked out, set her aside, and finally learned how to search a specific thread (apparently you can only do it on a computer, not a phone, duh). BTW, she's really looking great now, but I don't want her to bleed all over me, furniture, car seats...
A "red" search on this thread came up inconclusive. As the general consensus seems to be "yeah, red bags sure do bleed alot". But I can't seem to find how y'all deal with it?
I gave her 3 separate rinse/soaks, about 10 minutes each, and gently rubbed my fingers all over to get the soap out, as one of the washing tutorials made a big deal about getting all the soap out, and my final two rinses were not red. So is this probably "color transfer with conditioning"? And where to go from here? Condition and buff until the rags are not pink? Go for another round of dunking, but only rinsing? :cry: Hang her out in the sun to bake the color in? Then condition again? Or will Blackrock seal it in? OMG information overload, I have no idea what to do. I'm fine with the bag getting darker, more burgundy, I'm a bit ginger, so cherry red clashes with my freckles
This is such an awesome group, thanks for sharing your purse, and personal, lives
Welcome to the Rehab club! Wow, 218 pages! I bet you didn't realize there is an older thread before this one that has even more information.Questions about the red bags.
Hi all. I've been devouring this thread, I started at page one, up to 218 now. During which, I washed, reshaped, and conditioned a black Willis, came out great. It was just dumb luck that my first bag was an unlined black one, just like y'all suggest for rookies. Still waiting for Blackrock to come in the mail before I carry it...
So then I found a red Legacy Zip 9966 at the thrift (just authenticated by Hyacinth!) So I'm all cocky off my first success and ready to dunk again. I carefully cleaned the green off the brass just prior to a good soak and scrub. Thought she was clean, then as she dried, saw a missed dirty area near the zipper (as the leather is so dark while wet I couldn't really see how I was doing on the dirty spots). So I washed again, giving extra attention to where I remembered was dirty.
Anyhow, so two baths, stuffed, dried, and started Leather CPR. Probably have about 4-5 coats on by now. My sponge had a bit of pink on it, but it didn't seem like much, so I kept adding CPR every 12 hours or so, and didn't buff until the last coat, and that's when I noticed that my buffing tshirt rag was getting a bit pink too. And then I freaked out, set her aside, and finally learned how to search a specific thread (apparently you can only do it on a computer, not a phone, duh). BTW, she's really looking great now, but I don't want her to bleed all over me, furniture, car seats...
A "red" search on this thread came up inconclusive. As the general consensus seems to be "yeah, red bags sure do bleed alot". But I can't seem to find how y'all deal with it?
I gave her 3 separate rinse/soaks, about 10 minutes each, and gently rubbed my fingers all over to get the soap out, as one of the washing tutorials made a big deal about getting all the soap out, and my final two rinses were not red. So is this probably "color transfer with conditioning"? And where to go from here? Condition and buff until the rags are not pink? Go for another round of dunking, but only rinsing? :cry: Hang her out in the sun to bake the color in? Then condition again? Or will Blackrock seal it in? OMG information overload, I have no idea what to do. I'm fine with the bag getting darker, more burgundy, I'm a bit ginger, so cherry red clashes with my freckles
This is such an awesome group, thanks for sharing your purse, and personal, lives
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-clubhouse/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club-624452.html
Color comes off when I buff a bag but I've never had a bag bleed on me or my furniture when I was carrying it. Once the conditioner has really soaked in and the bag is completely dry, I don't think you have to do anything else. Just wait several days after the last conditioning before you use it.
One time someone on the forum had black from the inside of a bag stain her wallet. That is the only incident I can remember.
The dyes used when your bag was made bleed a lot less than older bags.
You just blew my mind, I was so hoping to catch up on the rehab thread, and now there're TWO! (awesome, and daunting).
Thank you, feeling much less panicked, and she's looking so good, I didn't want to go back to square bath. As a side note, it was kinda like I was gradually evening out the color, especially on the back in a worn spot (hip wear?), as I rubbed the CPR around each time. But just as those thoughts came together, came the fear of pulling too much color out. It was great at first, as if the bag was allowing me to redistribute a bit of the dye, but then *#$t, I've pulled it too much to the surface, and now it's gonna weep and bleed all over anything it touches.
Also, came across a post (can't remember, too many bookmarked now) that referenced this order of operations for a final finish/seal
http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes-r...ermes-leather-care-295160-19.html#post6890099
would you recommend this for our ladies in red too? Blackrocks is in the mail, won't kill me to wait for the big O too
My latest rehab, a New York City Saddlery Bag in Burgundy, a style I'm especially drawn to. (Rounded. Roomy. Just my size.)
There seemed to be a lot of burgundy dye in the bath, probably too warm....but I was experimenting with trying to transfer some color into the two rubbed spots on the top back corners of the piping. After the bath, I dotted lightly with a fine-tipped brown Sharpie pen and massaged extra conditioner onto the spots. They're definitely less noticeable.
I also got what seemed to be a fair amount of burgundy color coming off with the Blackrock treatment. Even so, overall the difference is dramatic. The poor bag just needed some moisture and reshaping!
There seemed to be a lot of burgundy dye in the bath, probably too warm....but I was experimenting with trying to transfer some color into the two rubbed spots on the top back corners of the piping. After the bath, I dotted lightly with a fine-tipped brown Sharpie pen and massaged extra conditioner onto the spots. They're definitely less noticeable.
I also got what seemed to be a fair amount of burgundy color coming off with the Blackrock treatment. Even so, overall the difference is dramatic. The poor bag just needed some moisture and reshaping!
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Wow, what a difference, it's beautiful again!
Glad you mentioned that about the blackrock, I'll be trying that soon on a red.
I've used Obenauf's too. Several people in the Rehab club do. A lot of what we do came originally from Docride in the Hermes thread. It is an extra layer of protection. I don't see that much difference in most of the bags I've used it on. You can use it either before or after Blackrocks but I usually prefer Blackrocks as the final step for the glow it produces. Obenauf's leaves more of a matte finish. I find it similar to mink oil and I'll use it when I feel a bag needs more intense moisturizing. Heat helps it absorb.You just blew my mind, I was so hoping to catch up on the rehab thread, and now there're TWO! (awesome, and daunting).
Thank you, feeling much less panicked, and she's looking so good, I didn't want to go back to square bath. As a side note, it was kinda like I was gradually evening out the color, especially on the back in a worn spot (hip wear?), as I rubbed the CPR around each time. But just as those thoughts came together, came the fear of pulling too much color out. It was great at first, as if the bag was allowing me to redistribute a bit of the dye, but then *#$t, I've pulled it too much to the surface, and now it's gonna weep and bleed all over anything it touches.
Also, came across a post (can't remember, too many bookmarked now) that referenced this order of operations for a final finish/seal
http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes-r...ermes-leather-care-295160-19.html#post6890099
would you recommend this for our ladies in red too? Blackrocks is in the mail, won't kill me to wait for the big O too
The bottom line is that if you intend to do a lot of rehabs, it is nice to have in your arsenal but it isn't as essential as Blackrocks.
You can do a couple coats of Blackrocks and then decide. Remember to apply the Blackrocks sparingly and buff with a paper towel. After it has soaked in, you can buff with a brush. I usually do 2 coats, 24 hours apart.
Great job! So pretty! I love burgundy. I don't think the temperature of the water made that much difference. NYC bags tend to bleed more than later made bags. Several people have used Sharpies on newer bags. I usually am afraid to use it because it is permanent. With paint, if it doesn't look right, I can clean it off and start over.
Beautiful rehabs ladies...all of them. I've only done about 5/6 myself and it's totally satisfying seeing the end result.
Whoever mentioned using Blackrocks on a vintage red bag...yes. Do it. I have an old NYC red basic bag and it's so yummylicious I'm afraid to use it. lol
Whoever mentioned using Blackrocks on a vintage red bag...yes. Do it. I have an old NYC red basic bag and it's so yummylicious I'm afraid to use it. lol
Oh I heart burgundy and this one's great! So glowy and delicious looking - swoon!
More before and after -- a 16 year old Rambler. The Coach browns are so beautiful and clean up nicely.
Yummy chocolate brown...beautiful!
Look at her! You've made this scuffed surface so smooth and even-colored. Excellent job!
I'm a total noob working my way through this thread (done - woohoo!) and had a question: when you leave the shackles on, do you do anything to prevent them from pressing against the leather and making little dents while you're drying or handling a damp bag? Wish this were a hypothetical question, lol! I worked out the dents and then padded the shackles with plastic wrap and tape. Is there a better way or do I just need to be more careful?! Thanks!
What are you talking about when you say a "shackle"? Do you mean a buckle? I've never done anything special to the buckles when letting a bag dry. Maybe you could post a picture of what you mean.
ETA: I think I know what you mean now - are you talking about the pin and anchor rings on a Willis bag? I've never done anything special to them. The strap will press against the leather again anyway, so it's not going to make much difference if you try to get the dents out.
Ah, good point, thanks! I was calling them shackles since Catbird9 and Whateve did in the original discussion. Thought everyone else did and I just didn't know b/c I'm a noob!