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#766
My 'girls' together.. Both have been bathed, and stuffed.. Still need to condition once dry..

Camel suede hobo
Patricia's Legacy in black

I'm in love!! Just need tags., I want matching ones and brass and nickle!
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#767
Two.time.bags said:
Yeah I had a chuckle too as I was writing it. Maybe 'cubes with rounded corners' is a more accurate description'.

It would seem likely that the Ball Chain Co supplied Coach seeing that they established in NY in 1938. Great start Detective JOODLZ!
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I think you were right the first time. They remind me of the "square tomato" developed at UC Davis. It looked exactly the same - a cube with rounded corners. It was developed to withstand squishing in giant trucks, on the way to the canneries.
 
#768
Would it be okay to dunk patent or run it thru the washer? I have a bag that is patent and canvas and even though the patent is in excellent condition, the canvas is very dirty and it would be easier to just dunk the whole thing
 
#769
missy_g said:
Would it be okay to dunk patent or run it thru the washer? I have a bag that is patent and canvas and even though the patent is in excellent condition, the canvas is very dirty and it would be easier to just dunk the whole thing
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Is it smooth patent or crinkle? Crinkle patent is more forgiving than smooth. Personally, I wouldn't put it in the washer. I think the agitation would likely crack the patent. I think you can wash in the sink though.
 
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[Q UOTE=whateve;25965865]Is it smooth patent or crinkle? Crinkle patent is more forgiving than smooth. Personally, I wouldn't put it in the washer. I think the agitation would likely crack the patent. I think you can wash in the sink though.[/QUOTE]

It's crinkle.

I will see if I can get it clean by spot cleaning first. If I have to dunk it I will try to be fast so it doesn't soak too long.

It's not too bad and the patent is in pretty good shape
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The inside is beautiful though!
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#771
Tenny said:
Okay, you asked for it!

Apparently, there were two different companies involved in the production of those bead chains. It would appear that Coach has used both BEAD CHAIN and BALL CHAIN at different times in the past.

First, there’s the company that used the imprint BEAD CHAIN. They started in 1914 under the name Bead Chain Manufacturing Company. They began making bead chain in 1916, producing pull chains for electric lights in their new factory in Bridgeport, CT.

As other uses for the chain developed, they branched out. For instance, during WWII, they made more than 22 million dog tag chains for US & Canadian military personnel.

Over the years, through expansion, acquisitions, and consolidations, they began manufacturing numerous other product lines, as well, ultimately taking on a new corporate name, Bead Industries, in 1987.

Bead Industries moved the production of bead chain from the US to the UK in the early 2000’s. Since then, chain production has been moved again, and all their bead chain is now made in South Korea.

Then, there’s a second company, Ball Chain Manufacturing, that used the BALL CHAIN imprint.

Ball Chain Manufacturing, still in operation in Mount Vernon, New York, claims to be the world's largest manufacturer of ball chain. They have been making ball chain in the US since 1938.

Their current online site shows ball chain available with either a nickel plated steel or a brass plated steel finish. (The price is the same for both.) The balls themselves come in “round" or “faceted" (what I think has been called “square” here.)

I imagine that both companies originally may have used solid brass for at least some of their chains.

That’s as far as I went in looking into the manufacturers of those chains. I don’t know about what years either firm supplied them to Coach. I figure that the chains used today are probably made in China (!)
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Wow! Thanks so much Tenny, that is so interesting.

'Faceted' - that's a much more sophisticated and technical term than 'square balls' I must admit.

And to think that some people consider bag obsessions to be shallow: there's much more to them than meets the eye!
 
#772
Leahelizabth said:
I'm back!! Addicted already!

Here's an update on the suede hobo, my next project and a pic of the supplies I got..

Suede hobo in camel, rubbed it by hand with shout then bathed it and let it soak for a few hours.. Now it's stuffed to regain it's shape.. A LOT of dirt came out, just needs replacement tags, might not need dyeing after all
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My next project, I still need to get it ID'd and authenticated..
There were three older Coach bags, but I was sure the other two were fake.
Just picked it up at the thrift store today
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My new supplies! I have to read this whole thread now :)
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GREAT JOB on the suede bag...I recently discovered that using a paste of baking soda and water works well in taking greasy dirt out of suede. I would use caution with bright or dark colors though. I used it on a patchwork bag with suede about the color of yours. Good luck with the black one...can't wait to see results.

I'm thrilled that you want to read the whole thread...that's exactly how most of us learned how to rehab. You'll find lots of tips and techniques, then you can decide what works best for you...my first rehab was just about 2 years ago and I still get a little thrill everytime I toss a bag into a sudsy bath :)

Two.time.bags said:
Yeah I had a chuckle too as I was writing it. Maybe 'cubes with rounded corners' is a more accurate description'.

It would seem likely that the Ball Chain Co supplied Coach seeing that they established in NY in 1938. Great start Detective JOODLZ!
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Thanks...who knew?
 
#773
missy_g said:
Would it be okay to dunk patent or run it thru the washer? I have a bag that is patent and canvas and even though the patent is in excellent condition, the canvas is very dirty and it would be easier to just dunk the whole thing
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I just dunked a red Poppy Signature Glam Tote with crinkle-y patent handles...the fabric was very dirty (especially the bottom), the handles were ok. Came through just fine. This is a before pic...I'll try to take "afters" later today and post.

whateve said:
Is it smooth patent or crinkle? Crinkle patent is more forgiving than smooth. Personally, I wouldn't put it in the washer. I think the agitation would likely crack the patent. I think you can wash in the sink though.
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I agree.

missy_g said:
[Q UOTE=whateve;25965865]Is it smooth patent or crinkle? Crinkle patent is more forgiving than smooth. Personally, I wouldn't put it in the washer. I think the agitation would likely crack the patent. I think you can wash in the sink though.
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It's crinkle.

I will see if I can get it clean by spot cleaning first. If I have to dunk it I will try to be fast so it doesn't soak too long.

It's not too bad and the patent is in pretty good shape
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The inside is beautiful though!
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I used Soilove on the fabric and scrubbed (repeatedly) with a toothbrush...this bag was probably in the bath for 45 minutes or so. Soilove is a super-sudsy product, so if you use it make sure you rinse really well. (It's sold in dollar stores in California...the rest of us have to buy online.) Soilove is especially good for taking pen marks out of Coach lining fabric...not so much with leather :( As with any cleaner, I would suggest testing it on an inconspicuous place, but I think with your light-colored bag, you might have great results. Good Luck!
 

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#774
I'm off to the Archives NYC!!!! I'll update when I get back!

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http://sacsmagnifiques.blogspot.com/2014/01/spotlight-off-to-coach-archives-nyc.html
 
#779
orple3d said:
Does anyone know how to remove a marker/ink stain from an un-lined interior of a vintage 1998 Coach Willis bag?

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I've never been able to. You can work on it with alcohol or acetone but I think the most you would be able to do it lighten it. Someone posted on another subforum that they used Lincoln E-Z cleaner successfully on another brand but it didn't work for me. I've also tried just about every other cleaner I could think of. I think it is easier to clean off if the stain is fresh. Some types of ink might be easier than others. If you dunk it, you will have to worry about it bleeding through to the other side.
 
#780
whateve said:
They both came out beautiful. I've avoided the clay color because of the yellowing. It's nice to know it will wash out. I'm starting to use Leather Honey more and more. Once I got over the consistency and figured out that it wasn't difficult to apply with a paint brush, I decided I really like it.
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ledobe said:
I've been using Leather Honey a lot too. It totally softened my white Ali which was pretty stiff, and it's worked the same on other bags for me too.


t. :)
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Late to the party on this one, but was checking in to see if you are still liking the results of Leather Honey on the 65th Anniversary Vachetta. I have a walnut Ali that is pretty stiff that I'm going to start in on and was thinking about trying out the Leather Honey. You just painted it on in sections with a paintbrush? Tips? Did you use Leather Honey and then finish with blackrocks? Ledobe, that Mandy is gorgeous!!!!
 
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