Blackrocks won't make it black. It just deepens the color a little. It's only temporary. Sometimes when a bag is dry, just bathing it deepens the color. I bought a very faded red bag once that came out gorgeous once it was bathed and conditioned. I was sure it was going to need dye but it didn't. I don't think you can tell until you get it how well the rehab is going to work.
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Just thought I'd share my little discovery. As I was polishing the chains on my (half) coach hangtags I noticed a number of differences. The red one on the left is from my watermelon tote and it just has 'bead chain' stamped on it. The middle, navy one is from my double kisslock and as well as 'bead chain' it has square balls, and the mahogany or wine one on the right is from my twin clutch and it has 'ball chain' with bigger balls!
(BTW, my family is now totally convinced I'm nuts!)
(BTW, my family is now totally convinced I'm nuts!)
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Interesting! My pre-creed bag with a metal label has a chain like your navy one, with the square balls. I wonder if that is the oldest style. I wonder what the chain for the baseball hangtag looks like.
My 'square one is from a bag with creed but no pre-serial number.
It would be interesting to see a baseball tag chain.
Maybe the 'anchor sleuths' could find out some history about ball / bead chains?
Silly me, I always take the chain and hangtag off when I rehab. I usually try to make sure I put the correct hangtag with the correct bag but it never occurred to me until recently that the chains weren't all the same. I'm sure I've mixed some of them up.
EDIT : sorry everyone, the seller sold off the bag already before i could confirm 
hi everyone, found another coach bag - this time a coach pebble leather legacy ergo satchel tote in white but not sure if it can be restored by myself instead of sending it to the shop for restoration. Mostly ink pen marks and some color transfer (i think!) at the bottom of the bag. Need some advise from all the expert rehabbers here
here's the photos of the bag. thanks!
hi everyone, found another coach bag - this time a coach pebble leather legacy ergo satchel tote in white but not sure if it can be restored by myself instead of sending it to the shop for restoration. Mostly ink pen marks and some color transfer (i think!) at the bottom of the bag. Need some advise from all the expert rehabbers here
here's the photos of the bag. thanks!
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I'm back!! Addicted already!
Here's an update on the suede hobo, my next project and a pic of the supplies I got..
Suede hobo in camel, rubbed it by hand with shout then bathed it and let it soak for a few hours.. Now it's stuffed to regain it's shape.. A LOT of dirt came out, just needs replacement tags, might not need dyeing after all
My next project, I still need to get it ID'd and authenticated..
There were three older Coach bags, but I was sure the other two were fake.
Just picked it up at the thrift store today
My new supplies! I have to read this whole thread now
Here's an update on the suede hobo, my next project and a pic of the supplies I got..
Suede hobo in camel, rubbed it by hand with shout then bathed it and let it soak for a few hours.. Now it's stuffed to regain it's shape.. A LOT of dirt came out, just needs replacement tags, might not need dyeing after all
My next project, I still need to get it ID'd and authenticated..
There were three older Coach bags, but I was sure the other two were fake.
Just picked it up at the thrift store today
My new supplies! I have to read this whole thread now
wow, the suede looks fantastic! Amazing!I'm back!! Addicted already!
Here's an update on the suede hobo, my next project and a pic of the supplies I got..
Suede hobo in camel, rubbed it by hand with shout then bathed it and let it soak for a few hours.. Now it's stuffed to regain it's shape.. A LOT of dirt came out, just needs replacement tags, might not need dyeing after all
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My next project, I still need to get it ID'd and authenticated..
There were three older Coach bags, but I was sure the other two were fake.
Just picked it up at the thrift store today
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My new supplies! I have to read this whole thread now
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Thank you!!! It's so addicting! I'm pretty sure the black one is a Legacy Patricia or a real older Patricia.. Can't wait to find out and see how it improves with TLC
Great job on the suede it looks amazing! Makes you wonder how it got so dirty. I haven't rehabbed a black bag yet but I've read here that they are the easiest and really rewarding so you're definitely going be hooked after that one!I'm back!! Addicted already!
Here's an update on the suede hobo, my next project and a pic of the supplies I got..
Suede hobo in camel, rubbed it by hand with shout then bathed it and let it soak for a few hours.. Now it's stuffed to regain it's shape.. A LOT of dirt came out, just needs replacement tags, might not need dyeing after all
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My next project, I still need to get it ID'd and authenticated..
There were three older Coach bags, but I was sure the other two were fake.
Just picked it up at the thrift store today
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My new supplies! I have to read this whole thread now
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Recommend you add Black Rock to your rehab arsenal. It's awesome stuff.
I don't think you can get rid of the scuffs easily, but leather conditioner will make them less noticeable. I would use Blackrocks. The white mark might clean off.
SQUARE balls??? That started my day with a giggle for sure! In my collection of "glued-in, registration number" bags, I have "ball chains"...but no "bead chains", so I went Googling. Check this out: http://www.beadchain.com/applications-promotional.htm
And this: http://www.ballchain.com/about.html
No direct connection to Coach (yet), but they were certainly in the right neighborhood!
Aahhh...the quest continues!
Yeah I had a chuckle too as I was writing it. Maybe 'cubes with rounded corners' is a more accurate description'.
It would seem likely that the Ball Chain Co supplied Coach seeing that they established in NY in 1938. Great start Detective JOODLZ!
Okay, you asked for it!
Apparently, there were two different companies involved in the production of those bead chains. It would appear that Coach has used both BEAD CHAIN and BALL CHAIN at different times in the past.
First, there’s the company that used the imprint BEAD CHAIN. They started in 1914 under the name Bead Chain Manufacturing Company. They began making bead chain in 1916, producing pull chains for electric lights in their new factory in Bridgeport, CT.
As other uses for the chain developed, they branched out. For instance, during WWII, they made more than 22 million dog tag chains for US & Canadian military personnel.
Over the years, through expansion, acquisitions, and consolidations, they began manufacturing numerous other product lines, as well, ultimately taking on a new corporate name, Bead Industries, in 1987.
Bead Industries moved the production of bead chain from the US to the UK in the early 2000’s. Since then, chain production has been moved again, and all their bead chain is now made in South Korea.
Then, there’s a second company, Ball Chain Manufacturing, that used the BALL CHAIN imprint.
Ball Chain Manufacturing, still in operation in Mount Vernon, New York, claims to be the world's largest manufacturer of ball chain. They have been making ball chain in the US since 1938.
Their current online site shows ball chain available with either a nickel plated steel or a brass plated steel finish. (The price is the same for both.) The balls themselves come in “round" or “faceted" (what I think has been called “square” here.)
I imagine that both companies originally may have used solid brass for at least some of their chains.
That’s as far as I went in looking into the manufacturers of those chains. I don’t know about what years either firm supplied them to Coach. I figure that the chains used today are probably made in China (!)