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#39,616
Hoku44 said:
Hi @vintagecoachcollector ! From my research, this is what I understand about vintage Coach pure aniline leather- the leather is dyed with soluble dyes in vats so that the color goes all the way through giving it a rich color. In order to maintain that natural feel, no protective coating or surface pigmentation is applied. Due to the lack of pigmentation applied, it's prone to scratching, staining and fading.

The leather dye that Ladzuri mentioned - Leather Touch Up Dye (fabulous product by the way!) is a pigmented dye with a sealer built in. LTUD, when applied correctly leaves the leather just as soft and supple as before. I think that's what you are asking - if a pigmented dye will affect the feel of the leather - the answer is yes and no. Yes, the leather can feel different depending on the quality of the product applied as well as the application method. If you go to Amazon and do a search for leather restorers, a plethora of cheap dyes will pop up.

Translucent liquidy dyes like Fiebings and Saphir do not have a sealer in the dye and unless you apply Resolene, you will encounter dye transfer or worse, if the bag gets wet, it will streak and run. Resolene definitely affects the feel of the leather. It feels stiffer and fake - a painted feel. Because these dyes are translucent, all imperfections on the leather will show through and I think that's another reason why the leather shop recommended using a pigmented dye. The leather is no longer "fresh and new" as it was when it was originally dyed in the vat. The color will not be consistent.

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Totally agree with CA and Ladazuri that Leather Touch Up Dye is incredible! I've used it on a few bags with great success!
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thanks @Coachaddict4020 and @Hoku44 for your advice and detailed explanation. As I'm very bad at workmanship, I tried to avoid dyeing it myself as I worry that I will cause more damage to it by redyring it unevenly. That is one of the reason I try to leave it to professionals. However, I'm just wondering as I don't see any aqua or lime green color from Leather Touch Up Dye website.
 
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vintagecoachcollector said:
thanks @Coachaddict4020 and @Hoku44 for your advice and detailed explanation. As I'm very bad at workmanship, I tried to avoid dyeing it myself as I worry that I will cause more damage to it by redyring it unevenly. That is one of the reason I try to leave it to professionals. However, I'm just wondering as I don't see any aqua or lime green color from Leather Touch Up Dye website.
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No, you wouldn't see those colors. You can either contact them and have them recolor your bag for you or they would create a custom color for you and they would send the color to you. Ladazuri sent in the hangtag so LTUD could match the color.
 
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Hoku44 said:
No, you wouldn't see those colors. You can either contact them and have them recolor your bag for you or they would create a custom color for you and they would send the color to you. Ladazuri sent in the hangtag so LTUD could match the color.
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I see....then I think I can only leave it to local leather restoration shop as I'm from Asia. So, it will be very costly for the shipping to and fro...thanks again
 
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DL Harper said:
I had a similar problem with body oil build up on the underside of handles on a Sea and a Parchment pebbled bag even after the dunk. Try applying a dab of undiluted blue (has grease dissolving properties) Dawn detergent directly to a soft damp toothbrush & gently scrubbing the underside, a section at a time. My concern was that the blue detergent color might transfer to the light leather (which it did not), so make sure the toothbrush is not completely dry. And don't scrub too hard, as the stitching will be wet and more likely to fray or break. It was a tedious process and even though all of the embedded body oil was not completely removed, I felt enough of it was to continue the rehab process. At some point I may go back and make another attempt. But thanks to previous users who must not have cleaned the bags, the body oil has probably been there far too long to ever disappear completely.
If anyone else has a fix, I'd love to hear about it!
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I'll try that. I did try a little dish soap but probably didn't try enough. I did get a little of the dirt off. I'm most concerned with taking the color off too, fading it out. Seems this shade of green is actually a bit of a nightmare! I'm going to only clean the straps at this stage to prevent further fading from dunking. The water did run bright green.
 
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Hoku44 said:
I would personally recommend these two leather cleaners:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C42M54G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you choose to buy this product, it needs to be foamy to work best. I poured the product into one of those foaming hand soap dispensers.

The other is by Leather Touch Up Dye - again their products are just outstanding - expensive but outstanding.

https://www.leathertouchupdye.com/p...ng/small-leather-cleaning-and-protection-kit/
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Expensive alright! I'm too much of a cheapskate for that stuff I think. But thanks for the recommendations.
 
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Belicious said:
I'll try that. I did try a little dish soap but probably didn't try enough. I did get a little of the dirt off. I'm most concerned with taking the color off too, fading it out. Seems this shade of green is actually a bit of a nightmare! I'm going to only clean the straps at this stage to prevent further fading from dunking. The water did run bright green.
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If you think a soft toothbrush might be too abrasive, perhaps a qtip/cotton swab might lift some more residue??? It's a beautiful shade of green, so I understand you want to proceed cautiously with it. Good luck!
 
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Michelle1x said:
Here's a project for one of you pro rehabbers...... :amazed:

Sold as is Vintage Coach Rescue Bag 15x10 Crackle Leather Repairs Sold as is Awesome for Display Prop or Use as Is - Etsy

This is a awesome piece .it is a rescue piece.very distressed.sold as is good piece for collector .fragile and can b worn if u choose.display piece. measures 15x10.has a few repairs and a vintage smell. Leather is crackled.2 front pockets in front under flap.handle is dry rotted in corners.shoulder
www.etsy.com www.etsy.com

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Wow. I'm good, thanks :lol: .
eta, I went back to read the description. It reads like a run-on text (is the seller 13 years old?) and while attempts to be accurate, definitely leans on the side of overselling it. That is all.
 
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I know the ranch is on some people’s unicorn list and saw this come up on eBay for anyone who’s interested. It’s not been authenticated though and I’ve heard this seller has been known to sell fakes. The bag needs some love, would come up looking special though.

www.ebay.co.uk

Vintage COACH City Bag Brown Leather Flap Shoulder Crossbody 070-1020 | eBay

Turn lock closure that lifts the flap to reveal a slip pocket. Glove tanned brown leather body with brass gold hardware. Back slip pocket. Inside the unlined interior is a back zip pocket with creed.
www.ebay.co.uk
 
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pursepiggy2 said:
I have a 9620 that smells so musty & dirty I put it in my garage in a bag until i could dunk it. I’m just learning with these bags. It looks great after 1 dunk but it still STINKS! Vinegar & water next? how much? any good recipe to help this poor guy?
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Did you use vinegar in your first dunk? If it smells musty there could still be live mold. I would put it out in the sun for awhile. That usually helps kill mold. Also just sitting outside for a week or two in a shaded area usually helps with odors. I usually try to get rid of most of the odor before dunking.
 
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vintagecoachuk said:
I know the ranch is on some people’s unicorn list and saw this come up on eBay for anyone who’s interested. It’s not been authenticated though and I’ve heard this seller has been known to sell fakes. The bag needs some love, would come up looking special though.

www.ebay.co.uk

Vintage COACH City Bag Brown Leather Flap Shoulder Crossbody 070-1020 | eBay

Turn lock closure that lifts the flap to reveal a slip pocket. Glove tanned brown leather body with brass gold hardware. Back slip pocket. Inside the unlined interior is a back zip pocket with creed.
www.ebay.co.uk
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There is also a black ranch for sale on depop for $125. Looks good.
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1980s Vintage Coach Ranch Bag Black Leather... - Depop

1980s Vintage Coach Ranch Bag Black Leather Crossbody Shoulder Bag Brass turnlock flap closure • Adjustable shoulder strap • Exterior pocket • 1 under flap... - Sold by @onepeculiartreasure
www.depop.com www.depop.com
 
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