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Good to know!! There are so many products, it’s hard for a newbie to get her head around the differences. In time, I suppose
Yes, there is learning by doing, which I favor as well as research :smile: . I've rehabbed a few dozen bags and for my after shots/posts I usually include my process. There is a wealth of info posted here. You could do a search here of the different products here. It takes time but as you read different posts you get a feel for what works for members here. If you search katev's posts, she is very generous with taking the time to detail her outcomes with what products she uses. And mpd got an amazing result for her black Stewie on the page before this so I am ordering Chamberlains!
A member here made a video,
If you can find an inexpensive bag as a practice bag, that is helpful :smile: I know it's so tempting to want to jump in a transform a bag immediately. Some bags just need a good app of CPR it seems, while ithers need a little more tlc.
 
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Thank you! Yes, I thought it started looking healthy and smooth again after the Chamberlains healing balm. I don’t know if I would have gotten the same result if I had just stuck with CPR the whole way, and I’ve had great results with just CPR + a finish coat of black rocks in the past (on the recent duffle rehab for example). So I’m not sure chamberlains is essential but I liked how hydrated the leather seemed after I used it and let it soak in overnight. It feels oily and like applying lip balm to the bag to give you an idea of consistency, and it looked shiny and oily at first but that went away as it absorbed.
Looks brand new!! That is amazing, going to have to try out Chamberlain’s. Thank you for writing out your process!
Thanks, here is my basic process for rehabbing vintage, unlined, glove-tanned leather bags:
I am going to pick up Chamberlain's too!
 
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This is the basic process I use for rehabbing an unlined vintage, glove-tanned cowhide Coach bag (not suede or pebbled or other special, exotic, or delicate leather*):

- If the hangtag is missing, call Coach Coach Customer Service to request a free replacement. It the bag has a non-functioning turnlock, also call Customer Service for a free turnlock replacement kit.

- If the hardware and/or the leather touching the hardware has turned green, search this thread for information on removing verdigris.

- Make sure the bag is clean inside, vacuum it out if it needs it.

- Give it a sudsy bath in Dawn dish soap and water.

- Rinse well and let it drain in the sink for a bit.

- Stuff it with old towels or clean rags, shape it properly and set it on a towel to dry (turning occasionally).

- Wait 24 hours and then remove the towels and let it continue drying.

- While it is still damp apply a moisturizer like Leather CPR.

- Over the next few days, if the leather feels dry or rough or it seems to dry out quickly, give it a few more applications of moisturizer. Thin areas like straps may dry more quickly than the bag. Don't let the moisturizer build-up in the seams and crevices.

- When it is dry apply Black Rocks Leather N Rich: use very sparingly, work on small sections at a time, wipe off the excess and then buff with a clean, horse hair brush.

- Give the bag a day "to let the leather rest" and give it a second application of Black Rocks if it still looks faded and scuffed.

- Polish the hardware with an appropriate metal polish (e.g., Wenol).

- If there has been edging loss from the sides of the straps, touch them up with matching acrylic paint, let the paint dry for 24 hours.

- Wear and enjoy a beautifully rehabbed bag!

Note: This is just the process that I have used successfully with many bags - that doesn't mean it is a universal method that will work well on every bag. If you are a new rehabber or if it is an unusual bag and/or has a special problem, it is a good idea to post detailed pictures here to ask for advice from multiple rehabbers. It is also wise to spot-check products in an obscure area before applying it widely to the bag. Good luck, rehabbing is fun but addictive!

*This doesn't mean that delicate, exotic, pebbled, suede or lined bags can't be rehabbed, but they may need special treatment - ask rehabbers here for advice before you begin!
Bookmarked! I never paid attention to the bookmark feature until the format changed :biggrin:
 
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Good to know!! There are so many products, it’s hard for a newbie to get her head around the differences. In time, I suppose
I feel the same way. I've been testing different products here and there
I am going to pick up Chamberlain's too!
I’m trying it in spots on a light bag (a putty? Madison satchel) and will report back with results. I want to know if it darkens lighter colors.
 
Yes, there is learning by doing, which I favor as well as research :smile: . I've rehabbed a few dozen bags and for my after shots/posts I usually include my process. There is a wealth of info posted here. You could do a search here of the different products here. It takes time but as you read different posts you get a feel for what works for members here. If you search katev's posts, she is very generous with taking the time to detail her outcomes with what products she uses. And mpd got an amazing result for her black Stewie on the page before this so I am ordering Chamberlains!
A member here made a video,
If you can find an inexpensive bag as a practice bag, that is helpful :smile: I know it's so tempting to want to jump in a transform a bag immediately. Some bags just need a good app of CPR it seems, while ithers need a little more tlc.
Yes! Thanks! I have read through so many posts for step by step instructions. There’s so much! And a lot of recommendations for products.

I have found a lot of bags on PM lately. I set my limit to $25 so I’m not tempted by others. I really like the look and leather in the 65th anniversary legacy bags and the Bleeckers as well but sheesh, I have spent so many hours scraping verdigris off bags lately!

my recent acquisitions, all for less than $25 each. The ink Bleecker was $13 and the image quality in her post was so terrible that it was hard to recognize what the bag was. I was pleasantly surprised when the leather was in such good shape.

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When I was taking the verdigris off the larger legacy bag, I noticed the rivets are really deep in the leather. Thoughts about this? Poor craftsmanship, or just wear?

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Yes! Thanks! I have read through so many posts for step by step instructions. There’s so much! And a lot of recommendations for products.

I have found a lot of bags on PM lately. I set my limit to $25 so I’m not tempted by others. I really like the look and leather in the 65th anniversary legacy bags and the Bleeckers as well but sheesh, I have spent so many hours scraping verdigris off bags lately!

my recent acquisitions, all for less than $25 each. The ink Bleecker was $13 and the image quality in her post was so terrible that it was hard to recognize what the bag was. I was pleasantly surprised when the leather was in such good shape.

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When I was taking the verdigris off the larger legacy bag, I noticed the rivets are really deep in the leather. Thoughts about this? Poor craftsmanship, or just wear?

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That is an impressive collection! Even before you factor in your budget! Kudos. Honesty, if I hadn't found so many vintage first, I would be collecting those Legacy and Bleeker lines. I want your wallet!! I have a Legacy Leather Shoulder Flap in citron. I just need app of Renapur for a Bleeker tattersall wristlet and I'll post.
I have a vintage Buckle bag, complete with those big buckles, waiting to be rehabbed.
Is the leather a little split at that attachment? Is the attacment still solid? People here have mentioned the verdigris with those lines.
 
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That is an impressive collection! Even before you factor in your budget! Kudos. Honesty, if I hadn't found so many vintage first, I would be collecting those Legacy and Bleeker lines. I want your wallet!! I have a Legacy Leather Shoulder Flap in citron. I just need app of Renapur for a Bleeker tattersall wristlet and I'll post.
I have a vintage Buckle bag, complete with those big buckles, waiting to be rehabbed.
Is the leather a little split at that attachment? Is the attacment still solid? People here have mentioned the verdigris with those lines.
Thanks! My husband isn’t nearly so impressed :biggrin: I had a crazy thought that I’d finally get into using wallets rather than just pouches if I had one I liked. Nope. I find the slots too restrictive so I’ll be putting this one back on PM soon. I’ll let you know when I do! If you’re on PM, let me know your username and I’ll tag you.

I would really love more vintage bags. They’re so solid and timeless! I can’t seem to find any that are within my price range and don’t have major issues like ripped out seams or missing hardware. I have a bid out right now for a Men’s Clutch 9832, the ones with the square turn lock!, but the seller hasn’t responded to any of my inquiries. A bit bummed.

The riven the legacy seems solid but they cut through the leather when attaching them at places. Just too much pressure, there’s a big holein the leather at the edge of other rivets as well. Another pic here for reference. Maybe the verdigris was holding it all in place. Ha! Grrrrr verdigris. I’ll post soon about my verdigris removal process. I think paper towels work miracles and I haven’t seen anyone else suggest them before, only toothpicks.

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This one just arrived today and I gave her a bath. First legacy I’ve dunked because I wasn’t afraid of leaking into the lining and it was filthy on the bottom. Also, not much verdigris! I’ve read that whisky has more problems (some think) with verdigris and it’s true so far in my three bags. If she’d have had more verdigris, I would’ve been afraid of it staining the leather when dunked. I was happy to see that some of the verdigris cleaned off the leather with a good dunk. I had to rinse for over 30 min tho to get all of the bubbles out. It soaked up a lot of the Dawn.

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I’m thinking about using honey on these corners. Do you think it would darken it too much? Or would look nice? Any suggestions before I begin are welcome because I’m afraid of this color!

she was washed at about 1pm and I’ve removed the towels and applied only one coat of Cadillac while damp. Still quite a bit wet at the top but the bottom and corners are drier. Thoughts?

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I’m thinking about using honey on these corners. Do you think it would darken it too much? Or would look nice? Any suggestions before I begin are welcome because I’m afraid of this color!

she was washed at about 1pm and I’ve removed the towels and applied only one coat of Cadillac while damp. Still quite a bit wet at the top but the bottom and corners are drier. Thoughts?

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These were pre wash pics btw... here she is now

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I feel the same way. I've been testing different products here and there

I’m trying it in spots on a light bag (a putty? Madison satchel) and will report back with results. I want to know if it darkens lighter colors.

I put the balm on the piping and on one half of the bottom of the bag yesterday afternoon. On the leather itself, I see no difference in color. The piping is still darker where I applied balm, but it also still feels like it is drying. The bag was really dry to begin with. You can see in this picture what the leather looked like, balm is on the piping on the right side and along the top where the zipper is.
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On the bottom where I applied the balm to the leather on the bottom panel (not the panel with the dark spot)
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And a comparison of the side piping (left photo has balm on the leather and on the piping)
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I put the balm on the piping and on one half of the bottom of the bag yesterday afternoon. On the leather itself, I see no difference in color. The piping is still darker where I applied balm, but it also still feels like it is drying. The bag was really dry to begin with. You can see in this picture what the leather looked like, balm is on the piping on the right side and along the top where the zipper is.
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On the bottom where I applied the balm to the leather on the bottom panel (not the panel with the dark spot)
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And a comparison of the side piping (left photo has balm on the leather and on the piping)
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please keep up posted! I have a handful of bags that I’d love to beef-up the color loss on the piping. ❤️
 
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I put the balm on the piping and on one half of the bottom of the bag yesterday afternoon. On the leather itself, I see no difference in color. The piping is still darker where I applied balm, but it also still feels like it is drying. The bag was really dry to begin with. You can see in this picture what the leather looked like, balm is on the piping on the right side and along the top where the zipper is.
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On the bottom where I applied the balm to the leather on the bottom panel (not the panel with the dark spot)
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And a comparison of the side piping (left photo has balm on the leather and on the piping)
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It’s a beautiful bag! I also don’t see much darkening of the bottom panel but the color looks much smoother, same as the side with balm. Why do you suspect the piping is taking longer to dry? Seems like it would soak it up faster, no?
 
It’s a beautiful bag! I also don’t see much darkening of the bottom panel but the color looks much smoother, same as the side with balm. Why do you suspect the piping is taking longer to dry? Seems like it would soak it up faster, no?
Thank you! It was an unintended eBay browsing purchase :biggrin: It might have just been me being heavy handed, the bag was really dry and I gave it a good coat to test it out. The piping seemed to soak up more than the bag itself, which never turned dark. This is a pre-dunk experiment! I’ll give it another few days to see if it fully absorbs and how long it takes.
 
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