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#27,593
Morgan_Bellini said:
This is a long read but it's very much worth taking the time to plow through it and it will explain the differences in the leathers used by Coach over time. In my opinion and limited experience, the newer bags don't always benefit from a dunk. They aren't dyed the same as the full grain vintage leathers. Other members have had some great successes but I think it depends on each bag. Hopefully they'll be along shortly to give you better advice!

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Thanks for sharing this article! @Hyacinth also kindly shared that with me in regards to an authentication I asked for. Boy that’s a lot of information! But I did read it! Will need to re read to retain everything :biggrin: One thing I’m confused about......I did end up buying this bag, even though it’s technically not vintage.....that might have been stupid of me.....but I liked it and it looked in pretty good condition. And...... I was impatient, mostly :-s But the creed does say “full grain leather “. So would that be somewhat similar to what I would have gotten had I waited for a true Vintage bag?? I haven’t received the bag yet to really look at it.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/800698...e?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=anchored_listing
 
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#27,595
LunaSilver said:
I dunked several newer bags with linings, agree with both MB and Whateve, it is risky and may not benefit the bag. It is always better to surface clean the leather and pull out the lining (if you can) and carefully wash it without get leather wet. But if the bag is cheap and dunk is your last option, still doable. Be aware the lining may be stained by leather color bleeding, and edgepaint may get damaged from dunk as well. Use cold water and keep the dunk time brief.
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Thank you! That’s helpful!
 
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Runnurse21 said:
Thanks for sharing this article! @Hyacinth also kindly shared that with me in regards to an authentication I asked for. Boy that’s a lot of information! But I did read it! Will need to re read to retain everything :biggrin: One thing I’m confused about......I did end up buying this bag, even though it’s technically not vintage.....that might have been stupid of me.....but I liked it and it looked in pretty good condition. And...... I was impatient, mostly :-s But the creed does say “full grain leather “. So would that be somewhat similar to what I would have gotten had I waited for a true Vintage bag?? I haven’t received the bag yet to really look at it.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/800698...e?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=anchored_listing
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It's not vintage. It was made in 2011. For me the quality is best up through 2003. It'll probably be fine.
Runnurse21 said:
Thank you! I bought this....to me this looks unlined???
https://www.etsy.com/listing/800698...e?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=anchored_listing
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It could probably be dunked without a problem but I wouldn't if it comes in the same good condition as shown in the photos.
 
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#27,598
MrsGAM said:
I used a sponge to get it on really thick, then wiped it off with a cloth after letting it sit for a minute. I also used gloves while doing all this! I used a sponge to apply the resolene.
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Alright, so a coat of CPR took all that extra dye off wonderfully. However, at the time of the day it was when I was applying CPR, the sun was streaming directly onto my workspace so I was really able to see spots where the dye was not completely overpowering the red. This surprised me. I figured black dye would be a complete blackout. I was getting excellent application coverage and seemingly great saturation everywhere, even in corners, edges and deep seams both inside and outside. I used some small paintbrushes to get under the folded over edges on the stitches and deep into seams. However, the dye didn't seem to penetrate as much in the tight spots and even along the strap edges a little bit. That tells me I didn't or couldn't get those tightest spots prepped, and probably should have done two preppings with alcohol all over concentrating in those tight areas. But I only did one.

On the inside, on the smooth leather down underneath the creed and across the very bottom, the dye didn't penetrate as much as I'd have liked. It did penetrate, but there is still some red that comes through in direct sunlight. Of course the bottom of the inside will never see direct sunlight by anyone except me, and that would only be if there was barely anything in it, so this is the type of thing where I probably should just.... let it go, LET IT GOOOO!! Now that song is out there floating in your head. You're welcome. I applied a 3rd coat of dye, in the direct sunlight, making sure to get those spots that still revealed some red tinge, but it is looking like this coat is doing the same thing the 2nd one did, which is sit on top of the leather. Would it be a disaster to try to dab some alcohol lightly to the areas getting the thinnest saturation, if it is, say, along the outside piping or strap? I don't want to ruin what evenness in saturation I have now by getting neurotic, and its just in the bright sunlight that this is noticeable. I have a slight apprehension that the bag will look exactly the same after the 3rd coat as it did after the 2nd, but I'll see what I end up with this afternoon.

I admit I already miss the red color. Because of that, I am leaving the zip pocket interior red as a reminder of what this bag was born as. I will never be able to sell this bag, not that I ever would, but pretty much never could without disclosing that it has had a novice dye job.

It is possible this bag will always look like a warm black versus Coach's typical neutral or cool black. I'm taking ample photos so I will do a before and after post maybe next weekend after I apply the Resolene to seal, and everything dries and it is usable. Reminding myself it is OK to not be able to control everything to the nth degree.

TLDR; after 2 dye coats and removing excess with CPR, coverage was great but in bright direct sunlight there was a reddish tinge that shined through in some areas. In other types of light, this was not noticeable. This morning I applied a 3rd coat of dye but it seems to be doing the same as before, drying on the top of the leather. Hopefully this afternoon I will see better coverage in the thinnest saturated areas. General anxieties aside, it's going to turn out fine for a first time dye rehab. It was completely unwearable with the black stain, and so this was necessary because this bag only has ONE LIIIFE TO LIIIIVE!! Cue opening music and ample amount of nostalgia to replace that hideous Frozen song.
 
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artax two said:
Alright, so a coat of CPR took all that extra dye off wonderfully. However, at the time of the day it was when I was applying CPR, the sun was streaming directly onto my workspace so I was really able to see spots where the dye was not completely overpowering the red. This surprised me. I figured black dye would be a complete blackout. I was getting excellent application coverage and seemingly great saturation everywhere, even in corners, edges and deep seams both inside and outside. I used some small paintbrushes to get under the folded over edges on the stitches and deep into seams. However, the dye didn't seem to penetrate as much in the tight spots and even along the strap edges a little bit. That tells me I didn't or couldn't get those tightest spots prepped, and probably should have done two preppings with alcohol all over concentrating in those tight areas. But I only did one.

On the inside, on the smooth leather down underneath the creed and across the very bottom, the dye didn't penetrate as much as I'd have liked. It did penetrate, but there is still some red that comes through in direct sunlight. Of course the bottom of the inside will never see direct sunlight by anyone except me, and that would only be if there was barely anything in it, so this is the type of thing where I probably should just.... let it go, LET IT GOOOO!! Now that song is out there floating in your head. You're welcome. I applied a 3rd coat of dye, in the direct sunlight, making sure to get those spots that still revealed some red tinge, but it is looking like this coat is doing the same thing the 2nd one did, which is sit on top of the leather. Would it be a disaster to try to dab some alcohol lightly to the areas getting the thinnest saturation, if it is, say, along the outside piping or strap? I don't want to ruin what evenness in saturation I have now by getting neurotic, and its just in the bright sunlight that this is noticeable. I have a slight apprehension that the bag will look exactly the same after the 3rd coat as it did after the 2nd, but I'll see what I end up with this afternoon.
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Lol, my 2 year old daughter is obsessed with Frozen! She constantly sings that song, so it was already in my head:rolleyes:
I ended up using more preparer on my bag in the middle of dying because it wasn't taking in some spots! Of course, I ended up doing 6+ coats of dye on my bag to get it more even, so maybe that wasn't the best idea:lol: I also ended up using paint on the edges of the strap to get it the right color. Can't wait to see your pictures!
 
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