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Dye question for the experts. Is it normal for a 2nd coat of dye to look like it's sort of sitting on top of the leather? I'm using Angelus Suede dye in black and applying with the wool dauber. Did I get it on too thick? Did I not prep it enough?(too late now, oh well) Should l buff off any dye that doesn't soak all the way in?
 
Dye question for the experts. Is it normal for a 2nd coat of dye to look like it's sort of sitting on top of the leather? I'm using Angelus Suede dye in black and applying with the wool dauber. Did I get it on too thick? Did I not prep it enough?(too late now, oh well) Should l buff off any dye that doesn't soak all the way in?
I've never used that brand of dye. Did you brush it after the first coat? When I used Fiebings and brushed it, most of the dye disappeared.
 
I've never used that brand of dye. Did you brush it after the first coat? When I used Fiebings and brushed it, most of the dye disappeared.
No I didn't buff it or brush after the first coat. The first coat did not completely drown out all the red. The first coat dried to a black with goldish-tinged undertone if that makes any sense. The red was trying to persist, and did persist in some spots more than others. The 2nd coat seems to really have blackened up those spots where the dye spread thinnest and I think it's a good even toned black now. But it just seems like it's drying very very matte-y and like it's sitting on top of the first coat.
 
No I didn't buff it or brush after the first coat. The first coat did not completely drown out all the red. The first coat dried to a black with goldish-tinged undertone if that makes any sense. The red was trying to persist, and did persist in some spots more than others. The 2nd coat seems to really have blackened up those spots where the dye spread thinnest and I think it's a good even toned black now. But it just seems like it's drying very very matte-y and like it's sitting on top of the first coat.
I had that gold undertone happen with my purple dye! It went away after conditioning with leather CPR. The gold tone happens when you put the dye on too thick. Conditioning will take off those extra layers of dye that didn’t penetrate the leather.
 
I had that gold undertone happen with my purple dye! It went away after conditioning with leather CPR. The gold tone happens when you put the dye on too thick. Conditioning will take off those extra layers of dye that didn’t penetrate the leather.
Ok so I will let this layer dry and tomorrow apply a first coat of CPR. I typically don't use anything other than bare hands to apply CPR but if the excess dye could be coming off, do you recommend using a cloth or paper towel? Also, what did you use to apply the Resolene?
 
Ok so I will let this layer dry and tomorrow apply a first coat of CPR. I typically don't use anything other than bare hands to apply CPR but if the excess dye could be coming off, do you recommend using a cloth or paper towel? Also, what did you use to apply the Resolene?
I used a sponge to get it on really thick, then wiped it off with a cloth after letting it sit for a minute. I also used gloves while doing all this! I used a sponge to apply the resolene.
 
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Hello! I tried searching for this answer prior to posting, but couldn’t sift through everything as there’s so much information on this thread! So my apologies if this has been asked before!!
Are all Coach leathers able to be dunked for a bath, or only the true vintage ones in terms of the leather’s age? Are leather bags from say, 2010-current able to withstand a good dunking? I was just curious, because was thinking about Ebay purchases that may be newer than vintage in terms of age, but that you would really want to clean up......wasn’t sure if those newer leathers stood up to the rehab process like the older bags. Thanks!
 
Hello! I tried searching for this answer prior to posting, but couldn’t sift through everything as there’s so much information on this thread! So my apologies if this has been asked before!!
Are all Coach leathers able to be dunked for a bath, or only the true vintage ones in terms of the leather’s age? Are leather bags from say, 2010-current able to withstand a good dunking? I was just curious, because was thinking about Ebay purchases that may be newer than vintage in terms of age, but that you would really want to clean up......wasn’t sure if those newer leathers stood up to the rehab process like the older bags. Thanks!
This is a long read but it's very much worth taking the time to plow through it and it will explain the differences in the leathers used by Coach over time. In my opinion and limited experience, the newer bags don't always benefit from a dunk. They aren't dyed the same as the full grain vintage leathers. Other members have had some great successes but I think it depends on each bag. Hopefully they'll be along shortly to give you better advice!

https://secure40.securewebsession.com/archetype.site.aplus.net/52125/5201925/TheCoachScreed.htm
 
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Hello! I tried searching for this answer prior to posting, but couldn’t sift through everything as there’s so much information on this thread! So my apologies if this has been asked before!!
Are all Coach leathers able to be dunked for a bath, or only the true vintage ones in terms of the leather’s age? Are leather bags from say, 2010-current able to withstand a good dunking? I was just curious, because was thinking about Ebay purchases that may be newer than vintage in terms of age, but that you would really want to clean up......wasn’t sure if those newer leathers stood up to the rehab process like the older bags. Thanks!
I would only feel truly comfortable dunking the older unlined bags. Some of the others can be dunked but it is riskier. I think newer bags are the riskiest.
 
Hello! I tried searching for this answer prior to posting, but couldn’t sift through everything as there’s so much information on this thread! So my apologies if this has been asked before!!
Are all Coach leathers able to be dunked for a bath, or only the true vintage ones in terms of the leather’s age? Are leather bags from say, 2010-current able to withstand a good dunking? I was just curious, because was thinking about Ebay purchases that may be newer than vintage in terms of age, but that you would really want to clean up......wasn’t sure if those newer leathers stood up to the rehab process like the older bags. Thanks!

This is a long read but it's very much worth taking the time to plow through it and it will explain the differences in the leathers used by Coach over time. In my opinion and limited experience, the newer bags don't always benefit from a dunk. They aren't dyed the same as the full grain vintage leathers. Other members have had some great successes but I think it depends on each bag. Hopefully they'll be along shortly to give you better advice!

https://secure40.securewebsession.com/archetype.site.aplus.net/52125/5201925/TheCoachScreed.htm

I would only feel truly comfortable dunking the older unlined bags. Some of the others can be dunked but it is riskier. I think newer bags are the riskiest.
I dunked several newer bags with linings, agree with both MB and Whateve, it is risky and may not benefit the bag. It is always better to surface clean the leather and pull out the lining (if you can) and carefully wash it without get leather wet. But if the bag is cheap and dunk is your last option, still doable. Be aware the lining may be stained by leather color bleeding, and edgepaint may get damaged from dunk as well. Use cold water and keep the dunk time brief.
 
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