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I haven't used any white, creamy leather conditioners like Leather CPR on the Vintage Italian Coach bags because they are textured and I was worried that the conditioner might cake up a bit between the bumps on the Madison bags or in the crosshatches on the Gramercy bag, but if you use a light touch and wipe off excess immediately it is probably okay.

The vintage Italian Coach have been "specially treated to maintain a new appearance over time" and that means that they have a sleek, shiny, textured surface. I have preferred to use light, clear conditioners to try and preserve that surface. If the bag is in great shape I usually just use Lexol conditioner but if it is in rougher shape then I have used Leather Therapy & Restorer; but I am sure that other rehabbers also have their favorite products.

CPSE, I have used very small amounts of Cpr on the Madisons, much less then I would use on a normal leather bag.

Owning seven Italien Coach bags all of a sudden I will invest in Leather Therapy as katev suggested and I'm pretty sure the Sheridans will benefit from that as well.

That makes sense! Thanks the input and tips!

I’ve always eyed the Italian bags from afar but they seemed more “high maintenance”... it might be the time for me to pull the trigger on one and see how I do with rehabbing one (but will stick to a black one to be safe haha) :smile:

Good luck with your beautiful bags @Splatnext!
 
Ladies you have no idea how much I appriciate all the encouragement and advice.
Katev I did notice the difference in the tag I hope you don't mind I downloaded your picture of the tags to my pc for further reference when I go tag hunting for the Gramercy.
Whateve I will order some white puffy paint from amazon do you think it would be ok to mix with with renapur to achive the color that I need for those edges?
I've never used renapur so I have no idea. Let us know if it works.
 
Did you guys who rehabbed these made-in-Italy bags use the same leather CPR/Blackrocks combo as with the vintage glove-tanned leather bags, or do you use different products? I read @katev that you used leather therapy and restorer, is there a particular reason? I’m currently eyeing some whether I should pull the trigger and buy but they aren’t in good condition.
I don't think I used any CPR. I think I did use Blackrocks. The leather doesn't seem to soak up much.
 
Hi ladies! I just got my $1.50 Goodwill find authenticated and need to know how I can rehab it. It's awful dirty on the inside and the outside has like a brown patina over it. Any help is appreciated! :)
 

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Hi ladies! I just got my $1.50 Goodwill find authenticated and need to know how I can rehab it. It's awful dirty on the inside and the outside has like a brown patina over it. Any help is appreciated! :smile:

I can't seem to find any steps. I've looked on and off for the past few hours. My kids screaming for cake this entire time isn't helping. Lol

Below are the steps that I use to clean up vintage, unlined bags. It sounds like a lot of work, but it is really pretty easy and I get a lot of satisfaction from fixing up a dirty, scuffed, beat-up classic bag and bringing it back to usefulness and beauty! It may also seem like you have to buy a lot of products, but you only use a little at a time and they last a long time.

This is just my approach and I cannot guarantee that it will work for every bag. You should search TPF and check out this Rescue and Rehab thread to read the advice of others; especially if the bag is made of delicate leather, like vachetta leahter. I've learned most of this stuff from other generous TPFers.

Selecting a bag for rehab:

1) I suggest starting with a black vintage bag because they are usually pretty easy to rehab. But all of the older, unlined bags are nearly indestructible, so don't be afraid to go for it! You can pick one up cheap at a thrift store, garage sale, flea market, or on eBay and online sales sites.

2) Examine it carefully because the more popular vintage bags have been faked and you don't want to waste money, time, and effort on a fake. Before you start the rehab process, take photos and post them on the authentication thread to verify authenticity.

3) I always give the bags a sniff (or ask the online vendor about smells and odors.) Most vintage bags have a musty, dusty smell and that's fine, it will be eliminated by the rehab process. But if the bag smells like mold and mildew I usually leave it on the shelf. You know the smell, like damp towels that have been allowed to sit too long. And I try to avoid bags have the strong smell of cigarette smoke because that is very difficult to eliminate.

Rehabbing an unlined, vintage bag:

1) If there is a lot of lint and dust inside the bag then vacuum it out, otherwise just shake out the crud.

2) If it appears that the hardware, especially the turnlock, has been afflicted with verdigris (green metal disease) it may be necessary to remove the male and female parts of the turnlock, before giving the bag a bath.

If your bag has verdigris you can usually see some green color around the edges of the turnlock plate. You have to carefully pry up the prongs that secure the turnlock - without breaking them - to get it off the bag, dunk all the parts in vinegar, rinse well, and then scrub away the grunge - and let it dry well. After you finish rehabbing the bag you can replace the turnlock and securely press the prongs back into place

3) Give the bag a bath in the sink using warm water and Dawn dish soap. Let it soak for about 20 - 25 minutes. Turn the bag several times while soaking to make sure the entire bag gets submerged.

I am more cautious about giving a bath to a brightly colored bag, like a red bag because of concerns about color loss. Unless it is filthy I usually try surface cleaning it first. Lexol cleaning solution (and Lexol cleaning wipes) are products I often use for surface cleaning. But sometimes just wiping the bag down with mild soap and water can do wonders!

If the bag is very dirty, I have turned them inside out in the sink so that I can thoroughly clean the inside!

If the bag has ink marks, try applying soap and massaging the area. Sometimes dabbing with rubbing alcohol will remove the ink but you run the risk color loss - first try spot testing with alcohol in an obscure area that won't be seen. It is almost impossible to completely eradicate old ink marks.

4) Drain the soapy water, fill the sink with warm clean water and rinse well.

5) Let the bag drain in the sink until it isn't dripping wet and then stuff it with clean, dry, old towels or rags. Shape the bag while you are stuffing it so that it will dry with the proper form. I usually stuff old washcloths into the pockets. Try not to distend the pockets too much because they may dry with a strange shape.

6) Set the bag on a towel to dry and remember to turn and move it every now and then.

7) After about a day, take the towels out and continue turning it periodically, shaping it carefully, as it continues to air dry. Try to make sure that the pockets and compartments get some air exposure, too.

8) When it is almost dry but still damp, apply leather conditioner (like Leather CPR) to the finished leather surfaces, massage it in and let it absorb, then buff with a clean, soft horsehair brush or a soft cloth. Some parts of the bag may dry more quickly, like the straps, so condition them as soon as they are almost dry.

If the bag was very dry then apply more leather conditioner, you may need to apply a few coats, but allow several hours between applications. Let the bag absorb each application and then buff to make the leather shine.

Vintage bags often have faded, worn, and dull areas and a product called Blackrocks Leather n Rich does a great job at restoring color and camouflaging flaws. Use it sparingly! Rub some Blackrocks lightly into one section of the bag, massage it in and then quickly wipe it off with a clean dry rag before moving on to the next section of the bag. If you put it on too heavily it gets a sticky, tacky feeling lasts a long time. Blackrocks has a strong odor but it fades soon.

9) After the bag dries use a metal polish like Wenol and a soft, dry cloth to shine up the hardware. Try not to get the metal polish on the leather or the fabric around the zipper threads. Keep a damp rag nearby to clean the metal polish off quickly, if you do get any on the leather or fabric. Don't forget to polish the zipper pulls and the chain that holds the hang tag! Giving the hardware a final rub with a jeweler's cloth is also very helpful, especially on the zipper threads.

10) Sometimes there are a few, tiny frayed threads sticking out in places and I just use a sharp nail scissors to trim them. If the bag has serious stitching/ripped thread problems (like the strap is partially ripped away from the body of the bag) I take it to a shoe repair (cobbler) shop for professional repair. I usually do that before I start the rehab process to find out how much it will cost and to decide if it is worth it to continue. Fabric glue can be useful for securing loose areas - or when gluing the 2 halves of a separated hangtag back together.

11) Vintage bags often lose sealant (color) along the edges of the straps and handles. I use small bottles of permanent acrylic paint to touch up the edges. You can find them at hobby stores and often at fabric stores like Joann's Fabrics. You will also need an artist's paint brush.

I usually take the bag's hangtag to the store with me to match the color but be careful not to lose the hangtag, I did that once! The black is usually an easy match, but you can also mix small amounts of the acrylic paints in Leather CPR until you get the color you need. Like mixing a few drops of black with a small amount of a brighter blue to get a darker blue.

I have found that the colors on the labels are pretty accurate but you can usually unscrew the cap in the store to look at the actual paint color under the cap.

Before applying paint (or using any new products) it's always a good idea test first; especially if you are mixing paint colors. Apply a small amount of your paint mixture to an area of the bag that doesn't show. Let it dry completely to see how well it matches before applying it in areas that do show. Always use good lighting when working with paints.

The paint is permanent after in dries, but it cleans up easily with soap and water while it is wet or damp. I wear rubber gloves when I am working with paint.

Use the brush to lightly dab the paint along the edges of the strap or handles, try not to get any on the finished surface of the strap, and wipe it off quickly if you do get some on it. Let the paint dry completely, it dries pretty fast.

Don't neglect the edging; it is amazing how much of a difference it can make to the overall appearance of the bag!

12) If the bag is missing its hangtag, call Coach Customer Service in Jacksonville and ask them to send you a free replacement. They will usually send a silver or gold-tone metal hangtag and chain to match the hardware. It usually takes a few weeks for the new tag to arrive.

You can also buy hangtags on eBay other online sites, most of the vintage bags just have a leather hangtag that is the same color as the bag.

That's all there is to it! Enjoy carrying your lovely bag and be sure and post before and after pics in this Rescue and Rehab thread!
 
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Below are the steps that I use to clean up vintage, unlined bags. It sounds like a lot of work, but it is really pretty easy and I get a lot of satisfaction from fixing up a dirty, scuffed, beat-up classic bag and bringing it back to usefulness and beauty! It may also seem like you have to buy a lot of products, but you only use a little at a time and they last a long time.

This is just my approach and I cannot guarantee that it will work for every bag. You should search TPF and check out this Rescue and Rehab thread to read the advice of others; especially if the bag is made of delicate leather, like vachetta leahter. I've learned most of this stuff from other generous TPFers.

Selecting a bag for rehab:

1) I suggest starting with a black vintage bag because they are usually pretty easy to rehab. But all of the older, unlined bags are nearly indestructible, so don't be afraid to go for it! You can pick one up cheap at a thrift store, garage sale, flea market, or on eBay and online sales sites.

2) Examine it carefully because the more popular vintage bags have been faked and you don't want to waste money, time, and effort on a fake. Before you start the rehab process, take photos and post them on the authentication thread to verify authenticity.

3) I always give the bags a sniff (or ask the online vendor about smells and odors.) Most vintage bags have a musty, dusty smell and that's fine, it will be eliminated by the rehab process. But if the bag smells like mold and mildew I usually leave it on the shelf. You know the smell, like damp towels that have been allowed to sit too long. And some bags have the strong smell of cigarette smoke and that is very difficult to eliminate.

Rehabbing a vintage bag:

1) If there is a lot of lint and dust inside the bag then vacuum it out, otherwise just shake out the crud.

2) If it appears that the hardware, especially the turnlock, has been afflicted with verdigris (green metal disease) it may be necessary to remove the male and female parts of the turnlock, before giving it a bath.

If your bag has verdigris you can usually see some green color around the edges of the turnlock plate. You have to carefully pry up the prongs that secure the turnlock without breaking them to get it off the bag, dunk all the parts in vinegar, rinse well, and then scrub away the grunge - and let it dry well. After you finish rehabbing the bag you can replace the turnlock and securely press the prongs back into place

3) Give the bag a bath in the sink using warm water and Dawn dish soap. Let it soak for about 20 - 25 minutes. Turn the bag several times while soaking to make sure the entire bag gets submerged.

I am more cautious about giving a bath to a brightly colored bag, like a red bag because of concerns about color loss. Unless it is filthy I usually try surface cleaning it first. Lexol cleaning solution (and Lexol cleaning wipes) are products I often use for surface cleaning. But sometimes just wiping the bag down with mild soap and water can do wonders!

If the bag is very dirty, I have turned them inside out in the sink so that I can thoroughly clean the inside!

If the bag has ink marks, try applying soap and massaging the area. Sometimes dabbing with rubbing alcohol will remove the ink but you run the risk color loss - first try spot testing with alcohol in an obscure area that won't be seen. It is almost impossible to completely eradicate old ink marks.

4) Drain the soapy water, fill the sink with warm clean water and rinse well.

5) Let the bag drain in the sink until it isn't dripping wet and then stuff it with clean, dry, old towels or rags. Shape the bag while you are stuffing it so that it will dry with the proper form. I usually stuff old washcloths into the pockets. Try not to distend the pockets too much because they may dry with a strange shape.

6) Set the bag on a towel to dry and remember to turn and move it every now and then.

7) After about a day, take the towels out and continue turning it periodically, shaping it carefully, as it continues to air dry. Try to make sure that the pockets and compartments get some air exposure, too.

8) When it is almost dry but still damp, apply leather conditioner (like Leather CPR) to the finished leather surfaces, massage it in and let it absorb, then buff with a clean, soft horsehair brush or a soft cloth. Some parts of the bag may dry more quickly, like the straps, so condition them as soon as they are almost dry.

If the bag was very dry then apply more leather conditioner, you may need to apply a few coats, but allow several hours between applications. Let the bag absorb each application and then buff to make the leather shine.

Vintage bags often have faded, worn, and dull areas and a product called Blackrocks Leather n Rich does a great job at restoring color and camouflaging flaws. Use it sparingly! Rub some Blackrocks lightly into one section of the bag, massage it in and then quickly wipe it off with a clean dry rag before moving on to the next section of the bag. If you put it on too heavily it gets a sticky, tacky feeling. Blackrocks has a strong odor but it fades soon.

9) After the bag dries use a metal polish like Wenol and a soft, dry cloth to shine up the hardware. Try not to get the metal polish on the leather or the fabric around the zipper threads. Keep a damp rag nearby to clean the metal polish off quickly, if you do get any on the leather or fabric. Don't forget to polish the zipper pulls and the chain that holds the hang tag! Giving the hardware a final rub with a jeweler's cloth is also very helpful, especially on the zipper threads.

10) Sometimes there are a few, tiny frayed threads sticking out in places and I just use a sharp nail scissors to trim them. If the bag has serious stitching/ripped thread problems (like the strap is partially ripped away from the body of the bag) I take it to a shoe repair (cobbler) shop for professional repair. I usually do that before I start the rehab process to find out how much it will cost and to decide if it is worth it to continue. Fabric glue can be useful for securing loss areas - or gluing the 2 halves of a separated hangtab back together.

11) Vintage bags often lose sealant (color) along the edges of the straps and handles. I use small bottles of permanent acrylic paint to touch up the edges. You can find them at hobby stores and often at fabric stores like Joann's Fabrics. You will also need an artist's paint brush.

I usually take the bag's hangtag to the store with me to match the color but be careful not to lose the hangtag, I did that once! The black is an easy match, but you can also mix small amounts of the acrylic paints in Leather CPR until you get the color you need. Like mixing a few drops of black with a small amount of a brighter blue to get a darker blue.

I have found that the colors on the labels are pretty accurate but you can usually unscrew the cap in the store to look at the actual paint color under the cap.

Before applying paint (or using any new products) it's always a good idea test first; especially if you are mixing paint colors. Apply a small amount of your paint mixture to an area of the bag that doesn't show. Let it dry completely to see how well it matches before applying it in areas that do show. Always use good lighting when working with paints.

The paint is permanent after in dries, but it cleans up easily with soap and water while it is wet or damp. I wear rubber gloves when I am working with paint.

Use the brush to lightly dab the paint along the edges of the strap or handles, try not to get any on the finished surface of the strap, and wipe it off quickly if you do get some on it. Let the paint dry completely, it dries pretty fast.

Don't neglect the edging; it is amazing how much of a difference it can make to the overall appearance of the bag!

12) If the bag is missing its hangtag, call Coach Customer Service in Jacksonville and ask them to you a free replacement. They will usually send a silver or gold-tone metal hangtag and chain to match the hardware. It usually takes a few weeks for the new tag to arrive.

You can also buy hangtags on eBay other online sites, most of the vintage bags just have a leather hangtag that is the same color as the bag.

That's all there is to it! Enjoy carrying your lovely bag and be sure and post before and after pics in this Rescue and Rehab thread!
You seriously are awesome! Thank you so much!
 
I found a beautiful brown Geometric Clutch for $10 at the Goodwill yesterday and @whateve has kindly authenticated it. The bag is intact and in good shape and I assumed that it would rehab well. When I bought it I noticed some green grunge around the turnlock and zipper and assumed it was verdigris - but now that I am looking at the zipper more closely I am beginning to worry about mold, see the pic below.

Does that look like mold to you? There are some green areas along most of the threads of the zipper. I haven't had to rehab a moldy bag in a long time - I've carefully avoided that situation - what is the current wisdom about dealing with mold in a vintage bag? Do you use vinegar? How do you use it? Thanks!

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I found a beautiful brown Geometric Clutch for $10 at the Goodwill yesterday and @whateve has kindly authenticated it. The bag is intact and in good shape and I assumed that it would rehab well. When I bought it I noticed some green grunge around the turnlock and zipper and assumed it was verdigris - but now that I am looking at the zipper more closely I am beginning to worry about mold, see the pic below.

Does that look like mold to you? There are some green areas along most of the threads of the zipper. I haven't had to rehab a moldy bag in a long time - I've carefully avoided that situation - what is the current wisdom about dealing with mold in a vintage bag? Do you use vinegar? How do you use it? Thanks!

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It could be either verdigris or mold. Straight white vinegar would be my first choice. First, use dry paper towels to wipe off as much of the stuff as possible. Then wet a microfiber cloth with vinegar and scrub. Dunk the bag and use vinegar in both the bath and the rinse.
 
I found a beautiful brown Geometric Clutch for $10 at the Goodwill yesterday and @whateve has kindly authenticated it. The bag is intact and in good shape and I assumed that it would rehab well. When I bought it I noticed some green grunge around the turnlock and zipper and assumed it was verdigris - but now that I am looking at the zipper more closely I am beginning to worry about mold, see the pic below.

Does that look like mold to you? There are some green areas along most of the threads of the zipper. I haven't had to rehab a moldy bag in a long time - I've carefully avoided that situation - what is the current wisdom about dealing with mold in a vintage bag? Do you use vinegar? How do you use it? Thanks!

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Vinegar works great on either mold or verdigris. The only problem with using vinegar on verdigris is that once the verdigris gets wet, it could stain the leather. I would try to scrape off as much as I could first.
 
Just found this at Goodwill. I’m concerned the scuffs on the front will just darken and become more noticeable with conditioning. Any thoughts from rehabbers who’ve dealt with this?
 

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Just found this at Goodwill. I’m concerned the scuffs on the front will just darken and become more noticeable with conditioning. Any thoughts from rehabbers who’ve dealt with this?
They might end up darker if the surface of the leather is worn off. I still think it would look better with a bath and conditioning.
 
Thanks! The surface of the leather is definitely worn of. I’m going to think on it for a bit.

A bath and conditioning tends to darken the color of the bag - in a good way - it looks richer and deeper, and it tends to make flaws less noticeable. I agree with @whateve I would give it a bath, condition it, and treat it with Blackrocks.
 
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