Coach Rehab and Rescue Club

[katev]

I would like to buy this bag for my mom but I have no experience with the Madison line. For those of you here that own bags from this line, do you find the caviar leather to be as durable and forgiving as the glove tanned leather? Do these bags feel well made and luxurious? Can the hardware be polished and minor scratches and stains rubbed out, similarly to the glove tanned leather? I've seen beautiful rehabs of these bags but I'm a little scared of them, they look delicate to me. I gave my mom one of the NYC convertible clutches that I rehabbed and she liked it a lot more than I thought she would have (or so she said...with moms you never know when they're being honest or when they're being a mom supporting her daughter's odd hobby). I want to give her an Italian made bag. I think she would love that. What do you ladies think about these bags in terms of durability?
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That is the Coach Royalton 4403 in Beechnut, I have that bag and I think it is lovely. I like the vintage Madison bags, they are structured and ladylike and they remind me of Audrey Hepburn or Grace Kelly. They are not for everybody because they are old-fashioned but they just feel finely-crafted, luxurious, and special - to me anyway!

The creed patch on the Italian Madison bags state that they are hand-made and "specially treated to maintain a new appearance over time" and they do! The leather on these Italian Madison bags is very unusual and not everyone likes it because it is shiny and a bit slick.

It is a pebbled leather that that has light/dark coloration. Coach called it "caviar leather." A Cobbler once told me that the tiny dark spots that appear on the top of each "bump" is actually printed on RHW leather. He said that it is very expensive process and difficult to do. (I have no idea what "RHW leather" means, but I have seen that term used with some Chanel bags.

IMO they are not delicate although they have that reputation. I have dunked them and put them through the full rehab treatment and they all come out just fine - but they take forever to dry!

You can polish the hardware, but if you polish heavily it may lose the brushed gold appearance and become shiny gold. If the leather looks dull in areas after cleaning then sometimes Lexol or Leather Therapy Restorer & Conditioner can bring back the shine.

Below are some pics of my Beechnut Royalton including some shots next to Gracie so you can see the size difference. They are old photos and not the most clear pics but maybe you can get the idea. the Gracie is very small and the Royalton is a bit larger.

And here are links to 2 Italian Madison rehabs that I recently completed, including dunking them both, a cherry red Carlyle and a forest green Drake:

Carlyle Before:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532703

Carlyle After:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532733

Drake Before:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532798

Drake After:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532882

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@Morgan_Bellini I found a picture of my beechnut royalton next to my black Carlyle and beechnut gracie, again to give you an idea of size - none of these are big bags, but the royalton is the largest of the 3.

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

@Morgan_Bellini I found a picture of my beechnut royalton next to my black Carlyle and beechnut gracie, again to give you an idea of size - none of these are big bags, but the royalton is the largest of the 3.

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Ooh, thank you! This is very helpful! She wants one that will fit her iPad in the back pocket so I think that's a good size. Thank you so much!!

 

[RedHead172]

Do you think there is any way to get that mark off the front flap?

 

[katev]

Ooh, thank you! This is very helpful! She wants one that will fit her iPad in the back pocket so I think that's a good size. Thank you so much!!

A mini-ipad or a full ipad? I don't think that the royalton would be a good choice for a full ipad, too small but others may have different opinions.

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

A mini-ipad or a full ipad? I don't think that the royalton would be a good choice for a full ipad, too small.

A mini iPad. She's hoping it will fit in the back pocket of a city bag, too. I've never seen a city bag before so I'm not sure but I'm going to get one for her anyway.

 

[Narnanz]

A mini iPad. She's hoping it will fit in the back pocket of a city bag, too. I've never seen a city bag before so I'm not sure but I'm going to get one for her anyway.

my mums got a mini...do you want me to show a pic with it in the back pocket of a city?

 

[Minchanka]

A mini iPad. She's hoping it will fit in the back pocket of a city bag, too. I've never seen a city bag before so I'm not sure but I'm going to get one for her anyway.

IPad Mini fits into the back pocket of a City bag. It also fits inside of a Court bag, a convertible clutch and, surprisingly, the Italian Gramercy top handle (the taller one).

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

my mums got a mini...do you want me to show a pic with it in the back pocket of a city?

Oh yes please! If it isn't too much trouble. Thank you!!

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

IPad Mini fits into the back pocket of a City bag. It also fits inside of a Court bag, a convertible clutch and, surprisingly, the Italian Gramercy top handle (the taller one).

A Court Bag? Really? Oh goody, now she's going to want one of those too. No matter! My mom deserves it all, and so she will have it.

 

[Narnanz]

Im actually using my Samsung Note 8 which is the same size as a mini as my mum is using hers.
Plenty of room. First two are back pocket, third is front pocket and last is the interior pocket.

 

[Narnanz]

Opps ..too slow

 

[Minchanka]

A Court Bag? Really? Oh goody, now she's going to want one of those too. No matter! My mom deserves it all, and so she will have it.

Yep. I carry an IPad Mini for work. I don’t buy a bag if it doesn’t fit

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

Im actually using my Samsung Note 8 which is the same size as a mini as my mum is using hers.
Plenty of room. First two are back pocket, third is front pocket and last is the interior pocket.
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Oh wow! That's perfect! Thank you so much! And that bag is gorgeous!! I love that blue.

 

[Narnanz]

Oh wow! That's perfect! Thank you so much! And that bag is gorgeous!! I love that blue.

Very lucky buy at a good price. 02 Costa Rica

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

Yep. I carry an IPad Mini for work. I don’t buy a bag if it doesn’t fit

I am so surprised to hear this. And now I want an iPad mini because I carry a full size Samsung tablet, which limits my bag choices due to its size. With an iPad mini (or mini Samsung even), my bag options would open way up. This is exciting!