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I would like to buy this bag for my mom but I have no experience with the Madison line. For those of you here that own bags from this line, do you find the caviar leather to be as durable and forgiving as the glove tanned leather? Do these bags feel well made and luxurious? Can the hardware be polished and minor scratches and stains rubbed out, similarly to the glove tanned leather? I've seen beautiful rehabs of these bags but I'm a little scared of them, they look delicate to me. I gave my mom one of the NYC convertible clutches that I rehabbed and she liked it a lot more than I thought she would have (or so she said...with moms you never know when they're being honest or when they're being a mom supporting her daughter's odd hobby). I want to give her an Italian made bag. I think she would love that. What do you ladies think about these bags in terms of durability?
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That is the Coach Royalton 4403 in Beechnut, I have that bag and I think it is lovely. I like the vintage Madison bags, they are structured and ladylike and they remind me of Audrey Hepburn or Grace Kelly. They are not for everybody because they are old-fashioned but they just feel finely-crafted, luxurious, and special - to me anyway!

The creed patch on the Italian Madison bags state that they are hand-made and "specially treated to maintain a new appearance over time" and they do! The leather on these Italian Madison bags is very unusual and not everyone likes it because it is shiny and a bit slick.

It is a pebbled leather that that has light/dark coloration. Coach called it "caviar leather." A Cobbler once told me that the tiny dark spots that appear on the top of each "bump" is actually printed on RHW leather. He said that it is very expensive process and difficult to do. (I have no idea what "RHW leather" means, but I have seen that term used with some Chanel bags.

IMO they are not delicate although they have that reputation. I have dunked them and put them through the full rehab treatment and they all come out just fine - but they take forever to dry!

You can polish the hardware, but if you polish heavily it may lose the brushed gold appearance and become shiny gold. If the leather looks dull in areas after cleaning then sometimes Lexol or Leather Therapy Restorer & Conditioner can bring back the shine.

Below are some pics of my Beechnut Royalton including some shots next to Gracie so you can see the size difference. They are old photos and not the most clear pics but maybe you can get the idea. the Gracie is very small and the Royalton is a bit larger.

And here are links to 2 Italian Madison rehabs that I recently completed, including dunking them both, a cherry red Carlyle and a forest green Drake:

Carlyle Before:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532703

Carlyle After:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532733

Drake Before:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532798

Drake After:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532882

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So I got busy dunking these two NYC bags this afternoon, a Shoulder Purse, I think maybe in Tabac recently bought on eBay, and a small Shoulder Bag in Mocha from a flea market contact I’ve had for quite a while. Lots of verdigris on the hardware, especially the female part, so I bit the bullet and removed it from both bags. I used an exacto type blade to get under the prongs and it wasn't too difficult. I def want to get the panel tools busykitty recommended. I was a little surprised. After letting the hardware sit in vinegar while the bags soaked, the verdigris was gooey but I could scrape it off easily with a cuticle stick. I scrubbed the brass a little. Then I dried it off and used a jewelry polishing cloth. I am really surprised how much better it looks for minimum effect. Wish I took a before pic of the gunky brass. The water turned dark from the Mocha most likely. It is resting on a light color towel and still transferring!
Stay tuned!
 

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Hello, I am posting here from the main page. I have a Nomad crossbody in aubergine. I love the leather, size, style, and the way it wears on me. Everything about it is perfect, except the color is a little dull. I have lived with this, but my favorite shade of purple is a reddish-purple, like eggplant. Now, I also own a Nomad crossbody in dark cherry, which is a dark, rich red. When I purchased my dark cherry secondhand, it had a few worn looking white spots. I got a red dye from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Refinish-Color-Restorer-Autumn/dp/B01N6LPH42/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=red+autumn+dye&qid=1579997991&sr=8-10) and though it took me months to work up the courage to dye those spots, the color matched perfectly and the spots are invisible now and you would never be able to tell there were worn-looking spots on the leather. The idea just now occurred to me--since I was looking up true eggplant bags--if I could use that dark red dye and lightly apply it to my aubergine bag. I would try it on a little, out of the way spot first of course, but wanted some input. Do you think the red dye, in very limited quantities, turn my flat purple bag more reddish and rich in color? As it it is, I don't wear it that often because I have other Nomads in colors I like more, but don't want it to sit there unused.

This is the actual color of the aubergine:
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I'm wondering if the red dye would make it look more similar to this, tho I know it'd likely be darker:

cherry-red-leather-close-up-texture.jpg


I only paid $100 for it and think I've gotten my money's worth out of it anyway, but would hate to ruin it for no reason with the red dye. Does anybody have experience dyeing bags--not to change the entire color--but to tint it towards a different shade? Or should I just leave as is?
 
Hello, I am posting here from the main page. I have a Nomad crossbody in aubergine. I love the leather, size, style, and the way it wears on me. Everything about it is perfect, except the color is a little dull. I have lived with this, but my favorite shade of purple is a reddish-purple, like eggplant. Now, I also own a Nomad crossbody in dark cherry, which is a dark, rich red. When I purchased my dark cherry secondhand, it had a few worn looking white spots. I got a red dye from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Refinish-Color-Restorer-Autumn/dp/B01N6LPH42/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=red+autumn+dye&qid=1579997991&sr=8-10) and though it took me months to work up the courage to dye those spots, the color matched perfectly and the spots are invisible now and you would never be able to tell there were worn-looking spots on the leather. The idea just now occurred to me--since I was looking up true eggplant bags--if I could use that dark red dye and lightly apply it to my aubergine bag. I would try it on a little, out of the way spot first of course, but wanted some input. Do you think the red dye, in very limited quantities, turn my flat purple bag more reddish and rich in color? As it it is, I don't wear it that often because I have other Nomads in colors I like more, but don't want it to sit there unused.

This is the actual color of the aubergine:
4ea45cee-a40c-4183-8002-7b975eacc3a1_1.cfa860d1935a8cc26f056e9faa2b9316.jpeg



I'm wondering if the red dye would make it look more similar to this, tho I know it'd likely be darker:

cherry-red-leather-close-up-texture.jpg


I only paid $100 for it and think I've gotten my money's worth out of it anyway, but would hate to ruin it for no reason with the red dye. Does anybody have experience dyeing bags--not to change the entire color--but to tint it towards a different shade? Or should I just leave as is?
No, I don't think it would work. Leather Refinisher covers fairly completely. If you want that color, you would need to buy it in that shade.
 
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