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[theblissfullyobsessed]

I recently did a full rehab on a Canterbury/Nottingham Bag which has stiff flaps. I can see the material in between the layers; it looks & feels like some sort of leather that’s stiffened/bonded with adhesive. It’s not a cardboard. My bag came out of its bath, drying & conditioning without any warping.

 

[Jeny09]

I have no idea which is which. I think* they are all supposed to be the same color. Not sure if the official color name burgundy or Oxblood. I think at one point there was a plum. I believe the dye batches varied from time to time. The other experts here can you tell you more. I was mostly hunting "burgundy" when I found these.

My full size photo from my Avatar is here somewhere. I can never remember the post #. So here it is again for your viewing pleasure. View attachment 4398177

Wow... what a gorgeous red bag collections [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]

 

[catthecurious]

I recently did a full rehab on a Canterbury/Nottingham Bag which has stiff flaps. I can see the material in between the layers; it looks & feels like some sort of leather that’s stiffened/bonded with adhesive. It’s not a cardboard. My bag came out of its bath, drying & conditioning without any warping.

I bet my Derby has the same construction. Derby, Lenox, Kent, Nottingham, Binocular - they are all more or less from the same period.

 

[houseof999]

Wow... what a gorgeous red bag collections [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]

Thank you. I have more that are not in the pic. Some are going back in the market because they don't work for me. [emoji3525]

 

[Catbird9]

I recently did a full rehab on a Canterbury/Nottingham Bag which has stiff flaps. I can see the material in between the layers; it looks & feels like some sort of leather that’s stiffened/bonded with adhesive. It’s not a cardboard. My bag came out of its bath, drying & conditioning without any warping.

I've seen that too -- you described it well. I think it was on/in an interior pocket.

I've seen proof of what appears to be cardboard in the Binocular Bag posted here:

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It's very possible that different materials were used as reinforcement over the years, at different plants, on different styles.

 

[Jeny09]

Thank you. I have more that are not in the pic. Some are going back in the market because they don't work for me. [emoji3525]

Ooooh can we see what goes back into the market? [emoji7]

 

[catthecurious]

Never heard of using steam before, that's a great idea! You know Willis bags often have persistent dents where the dowel rod D-rings rest against the top of the bag - even after dunking. I wonder if steaming could get them out!

If you have an old stove-top tea kettle you could direct the spout at a specific spot on the bag - but don't get burned!

Guess it could be done even more efficiently with a garment steamer (which I don't own) or a household steamer (which I own, but it's an old, bulky model and bringing it from the basement is a big deal and calls for a serious project). Being quite a sporadic visitor on this site in general, I don't read the thread as religiously as some devoted rehabbers, so my knowledge is covered in huge holes, LoL! I vaguely remember that a couple of years ago someone here wrote about working on removing the dents from Italian Kelly bag with a steamer because she didn't want to dunk it. That creative person used a small hole in a seam to insert a narrow nozzle between leather and the lining. I don't remember the details, unfortunately, as well as the full outcome of that experiment, but it was mentioned in the process that there were positive changes. So somehow I thought of that idea, but decided to use a less sophisticated pot-and-stove method

 

[catthecurious]

I've seen that too -- you described it well. I think it was on/in an interior pocket.
I've seen proof of what appears to be cardboard in the Binocular Bag posted here:

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It's very possible that different materials were used as reinforcement over the years, at different plants, on different styles.

I can't quite tell from the picture what exactly the material is... The bag is in BT and it looks like the pictures were taken under artificial lighting - so the inside may seem more yellow than it is...

 

[whateve]

I've seen that too -- you described it well. I think it was on/in an interior pocket.

I've seen proof of what appears to be cardboard in the Binocular Bag posted here:

Coach Rehab and Rescue Club

It's very possible that different materials were used as reinforcement over the years, at different plants, on different styles.

I can't quite tell from the picture what exactly the material is... The bag is in BT and it looks like the pictures were taken under artificial lighting - so the inside may seem more yellow than it is...

I remember seeing that in a bag before. I don't remember what it felt like but I never thought it was cardboard.

 

[catthecurious]

If someone is looking for a vintage replacement strap and 2 hangtags in Mahogany, I've just seen it on eBay:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/352620115201

Not cheap, but definitely authentic, and less expensive than buying separately!

And another one:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/133016866304

 

[houseof999]

Ooooh can we see what goes back into the market? [emoji7]

So far only a red Asheville dome satchel. Possibly a red shoulder sac also. The other two are burgundy shoulder bags. Not exactly red but in the red family.

 

[Lothruin]

Guess it could be done even more efficiently with a garment steamer (which I don't own) or a household steamer (which I own, but it's an old, bulky model and bringing it from the basement is a big deal and calls for a serious project). Being quite a sporadic visitor on this site in general, I don't read the thread as religiously as some devoted rehabbers, so my knowledge is covered in huge holes, LoL! I vaguely remember that a couple of years ago someone here wrote about working on removing the dents from Italian Kelly bag with a steamer because she didn't want to dunk it. That creative person used a small hole in a seam to insert a narrow nozzle between leather and the lining. I don't remember the details, unfortunately, as well as the full outcome of that experiment, but it was mentioned in the process that there were positive changes. So somehow I thought of that idea, but decided to use a less sophisticated pot-and-stove method

I've also seen that a wet towel and carefully applied iron can remove dents, up to and including shallow stamping.

 

[theblissfullyobsessed]

I've seen that too -- you described it well. I think it was on/in an interior pocket.

I've seen proof of what appears to be cardboard in the Binocular Bag posted here:

Coach Rehab and Rescue Club

It's very possible that different materials were used as reinforcement over the years, at different plants, on different styles.

I can't quite tell from the picture what exactly the material is... The bag is in BT and it looks like the pictures were taken under artificial lighting - so the inside may seem more yellow than it is...

I remember seeing that in a bag before. I don't remember what it felt like but I never thought it was cardboard.

Thanks, Catbird. That photo does look like a cardboard.

I just looked at mine again &, IF I had to make a guess, I’d say it’s maybe a bonded leather??. I’m not good with leather terminology so I may be using incorrect terms. [emoji51] It is flexible & slight tugging does not tear it. Also it has some texture that could be to allow for good glue adhesion.

 

[Catbird9]

I can't quite tell from the picture what exactly the material is... The bag is in BT and it looks like the pictures were taken under artificial lighting - so the inside may seem more yellow than it is...

I remember seeing that in a bag before. I don't remember what it felt like but I never thought it was cardboard.

Thanks, Catbird. That photo does look like a cardboard.

I just looked at mine again &, IF I had to make a guess, I’d say it’s maybe a bonded leather??. I’m not good with leather terminology so I may be using incorrect terms. [emoji51] It is flexible & slight tugging does not tear it. Also it has some texture that could be to allow for good glue adhesion.

I see what others mean about that material in the Binocular Bag. It could be some kind of bonded leather or PVC/PU composite material. So in my mind, the jury is still out on the cardboard question, but leaning toward "something other than cardboard."

 

[Eugooglizer]

Guess it could be done even more efficiently with a garment steamer (which I don't own) or a household steamer (which I own, but it's an old, bulky model and bringing it from the basement is a big deal and calls for a serious project). Being quite a sporadic visitor on this site in general, I don't read the thread as religiously as some devoted rehabbers, so my knowledge is covered in huge holes, LoL! I vaguely remember that a couple of years ago someone here wrote about working on removing the dents from Italian Kelly bag with a steamer because she didn't want to dunk it. That creative person used a small hole in a seam to insert a narrow nozzle between leather and the lining. I don't remember the details, unfortunately, as well as the full outcome of that experiment, but it was mentioned in the process that there were positive changes. So somehow I thought of that idea, but decided to use a less sophisticated pot-and-stove method

I think I recently read the same posts you mentioned--she removed the turnlock hardware on the front flap of the bag and directed the steam in between the layers of leather through the hole. She effectively straightened out some large wrinkles/warping on the front flap with that method--seemed to work perfectly!