Coach Fall 2014 preview soon?

[punkin pie]

I noticed that...but what am I suppose to hang from the bottom of my bag?

Fendi sells those fur bag fobs now and LV had the fox tails a couple of seasons back, I wonder if Coach intends to offer something similar.

Yes what in the world would you want hanging from the bottom of your bag??? Keys? A charm? What is it for?

Well, just watched the runway show as well. Um the big oversized, bloated, sneaker shoes are absurd (although I've seen quite a few pics of celebrities wearing them as of late). I do like a couple pair of the taller boots.

The bags look like nice smooshy leather, but they all have either short handles or extremely long crossbody ones?! I realize this is just a small sneak peek so we will have to wait and see!

 

[DairToLuv]

At first glance I didn't like the new bags but now I like how edgy they look !! Although, I would not pay more than $400 for it

 

[bobbyjean]

None of the bags from the runway show are going to be $400!

 

[proffashionista]

Wow, those FB comments are 99% negative, and that's with Coach deleting the comments they don't like.
Personally I think this campaign was poorly thought out. They didn't take their buyer base (most of us) into consideration, they just decided to foist their idea of what they think Coach should be. And who do they think it is that buys their bags? Would that would be, unhappy, moody, sullen young girls/women?

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This.

And I am more than put off by the models and the messages that Coach is implicitly sending out to young women here. I resent it, frankly. Where are the 82 pound male models with the sour grape faces? I don't see a one.

Thrown clay at walls.

 

[proffashionista]

Actually, I am not going to restrain the perceptions streaming in my head after seeing this campaign. Here are some primary ideas I've been mulling over.

Way back when I got my first Coach bag, I recall a theme or motto of how carrying a Coach was a hallmark of "arriving." I knew there were many other designers that equated to this as well, but the simplicity of Coach and its concerted attempts to make bags that really streamlined women into a professional look for the world of work is what appealed to me ( and obviously ,any, many others) greatly. I could take my black and silver Willis (as just one example) into a meeting with the best of my university's male administrators and blend right into the fold, without having to sacrifice femininity entirely.

Now I realize I'm focusing on Coach as a handbag designer vs lifestyle designer , the latter of which Coach obviously wants to go. I don't see much if any of my lifestyle in this runway shoot. And I surely hope that I'm not seeing what Coach perceives as a general , female lifestyle in this shoot. Why?

The models look depressed, sullen, angry...and haughty. If this is to represent the lifestyle of female Coach shoppers, I take great umbrage. I would hope that my choice of designer would reflect success, peace, joy, and wanting to look successful.

The models are also horribly thin, and I see others commenting on this on the Coach facebook page. With much relief, at least others are on the same page with me. It's not wrong to be very thin. There are women who are born this way, take great care of themselves, and have very thin figures. I do not, however, see thin women with scowling faces such as those we see in movies such as THE SHINING. Thin women do not typically carry themselves with such deportment. Meanwhile, thin women have coloring in their complexions. Thin women smile. Thin women do not have facial expressions that resemble women walking behind coffins. Thin women do not look at other women as though that other person is a low life who doesn't deserve more than an askance glance. Thin women look healthy and reflect an image that offers others the hope that a beautiful frame can be obtained through really of good choices and actions. They don't reflect an image that implies, "One more step towards me , and I'm going to kick you."

I'm not even that thin. I'm just taking whole-hearted umbrage that Coach implies that women may or cannot look bold, strong, happy, confident, peaceful and in charge. The models here imply that timid, weak, unhappy, conflicted meekness is what characterizes that "road" to womanhood that this campaign aims to portray.

Once, shame on them. Twice....well, I have my answer.

 

[lizmil]

wow, those fb comments are 99% negative, and that's with coach deleting the comments they don't like.
Personally i think this campaign was poorly thought out. they didn't take their buyer base (most of us) into consideration, they just decided to foist their idea of what they think coach should be. And who do they think it is that buys their bags? Would that would be, unhappy, moody, sullen young girls/women?

i don't expect all the coach bags to have this new look though. I think we'll see most of the regular lines we are used to.

+1

 

[jan1124]

So much of the detail - fringe and feathers - remind me of the Krystal Simpson Blogger Bag from a few years ago. If you weren't into Coach then, Coach let 4 bloggers design bags, and chose 4 to produce in limited edition quanity. I did get this one at the outlet (not my picture, having problems uploading). The MSRP was $498, but I remember getting it for about $160.

 

[momtok]

I had a thought. Is it possible (with the recent bad earnings report) that Coach decided the Borough/new capsule collections didn't work, and did a 180, going completely the other way in terms of "target" or "style/image"? (wish I could find a better word for that)

On the other hand though, the new fall items have to have been in the pipeline for quite some time, so perhaps there was no time for them to have been a 'reaction' to Borough/new capsules success or failure. (??) If that's the case, maybe they're just trying to target every possible spot on the spectrum?


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[grannytoabbi]

actually, i am not going to restrain the perceptions streaming in my head after seeing this campaign. Here are some primary ideas i've been mulling over.

Way back when i got my first coach bag, i recall a theme or motto of how carrying a coach was a hallmark of "arriving." i knew there were many other designers that equated to this as well, but the simplicity of coach and its concerted attempts to make bags that really streamlined women into a professional look for the world of work is what appealed to me ( and obviously ,any, many others) greatly. I could take my black and silver willis (as just one example) into a meeting with the best of my university's male administrators and blend right into the fold, without having to sacrifice femininity entirely.

Now i realize i'm focusing on coach as a handbag designer vs lifestyle designer , the latter of which coach obviously wants to go. I don't see much if any of my lifestyle in this runway shoot. And i surely hope that i'm not seeing what coach perceives as a general , female lifestyle in this shoot. Why?

The models look depressed, sullen, angry...and haughty. If this is to represent the lifestyle of female coach shoppers, i take great umbrage. I would hope that my choice of designer would reflect success, peace, joy, and wanting to look successful.

The models are also horribly thin, and i see others commenting on this on the coach facebook page. With much relief, at least others are on the same page with me. It's not wrong to be very thin. There are women who are born this way, take great care of themselves, and have very thin figures. I do not, however, see thin women with scowling faces such as those we see in movies such as the shining. Thin women do not typically carry themselves with such deportment. Meanwhile, thin women have coloring in their complexions. Thin women smile. Thin women do not have facial expressions that resemble women walking behind coffins. Thin women do not look at other women as though that other person is a low life who doesn't deserve more than an askance glance. Thin women look healthy and reflect an image that offers others the hope that a beautiful frame can be obtained through really of good choices and actions. They don't reflect an image that implies, "one more step towards me , and i'm going to kick you."

i'm not even that thin. I'm just taking whole-hearted umbrage that coach implies that women may or cannot look bold, strong, happy, confident, peaceful and in charge. The models here imply that timid, weak, unhappy, conflicted meekness is what characterizes that "road" to womanhood that this campaign aims to portray.

Once, shame on them. Twice....well, i have my answer.

so true!!

 

[bobbyjean]

I understand everything that you all are saying about the models, their weight, shape, complexion, lack of emotion and eyebrows..... etc etc. But the "average" woman doesn't sell clothes and shoes and handbags. Designers want to stand out, they want to be seen as the newest.... the most cutting edge...they want everyone talking about their runway show. They want the shock value! That's what sells....not me carrying a handbag going to work! I don't and won't give any designer of any retail item much of my thoughts or emotions! It's a material object. If I like something I will buy it and if I don't I won't!

 

[melissatrv]

I understand everything that you all are saying about the models, their weight, shape, complexion, lack of emotion and eyebrows..... etc etc. But the "average" woman doesn't sell clothes and shoes and handbags. Designers want to stand out, they want to be seen as the newest.... the most cutting edge...they want everyone talking about their runway show. They want the shock value! That's what sells....not me carrying a handbag going to work! I don't and won't give any designer of any retail item much of my thoughts or emotions! It's a material object. If I like something I will buy it and if I don't I won't!

I understand your points. And I daresay we have all seen runway shows so we get it and understand how the process works. But this is such a drastic change for Coach. Think the point is that all models are going to be a size zero - 1, we get that, but there is thin and there anorexic thin. Karlie Kloss was not an "average woman" or the beautiful fresh faced Poppy girl from a couple years back but they seemed to fit the Coach brand more than what have seen this past week. Even when the teen girls dragged the bags thru the grass (which made me cringe!) they still they looked like they had more a carefree attitude rather than I am angry and think "I am better than you".

If the objective of this was to get people to notice and get them talking they certainly succeeded on that count. But if the goal was to get everyone excited to buy Coach bags this fall.... well....we'll have to wait and see if it worked but right now the jury is still out.

 

[bobbyjean]

I understand your points. And I daresay we have all seen runway shows so we get it and understand how the process works. But this is such a drastic change for Coach. Think the point is that all models are going to be a size zero - 1, we get that, but there is thin and there anorexic thin. Karlie Kloss was not an "average woman" or the beautiful fresh faced Poppy girl from a couple years back but they seemed to fit the Coach brand more than what have seen this past week. Even when the teen girls dragged the bags thru the grass (which made me cringe!) they still they looked like they had more a carefree attitude rather than I am angry and think "I am better than you".

If the objective of this was to get people to notice and get them talking they certainly succeeded on that count. But if the goal was to get everyone excited to buy Coach bags this fall.... well....we'll have to wait and see if it worked but right now the jury is still out.

Absolutely! Coach doesn't have the numbers they want. They obviously have to do something different to obtain different results. Enter Stuart Vetters. Runway show. A lot of people talking about Coach right now with TPF being a teeny tiny part of a percent. Different is happening. How much.... how long....will it work....only time and sales will show that. If InstaGram can be any indication and I don't know it it can.....he hit it out of the park. I'm rooting for him and Coach.... I like a lot of the bags I've seen in pictures....I'm too old for grunge....dislike hip hop...my style for work has to be professional.... out of work I can be classy and ladylike....I can be a rocker.... I can be edgy.....I love diversity!

 

[dalmunchkin]

Actually, I am not going to restrain the perceptions streaming in my head after seeing this campaign. Here are some primary ideas I've been mulling over.

Way back when I got my first Coach bag, I recall a theme or motto of how carrying a Coach was a hallmark of "arriving." I knew there were many other designers that equated to this as well, but the simplicity of Coach and its concerted attempts to make bags that really streamlined women into a professional look for the world of work is what appealed to me ( and obviously ,any, many others) greatly. I could take my black and silver Willis (as just one example) into a meeting with the best of my university's male administrators and blend right into the fold, without having to sacrifice femininity entirely.

Now I realize I'm focusing on Coach as a handbag designer vs lifestyle designer , the latter of which Coach obviously wants to go. I don't see much if any of my lifestyle in this runway shoot. And I surely hope that I'm not seeing what Coach perceives as a general , female lifestyle in this shoot. Why?

The models look depressed, sullen, angry...and haughty. If this is to represent the lifestyle of female Coach shoppers, I take great umbrage. I would hope that my choice of designer would reflect success, peace, joy, and wanting to look successful.

The models are also horribly thin, and I see others commenting on this on the Coach facebook page. With much relief, at least others are on the same page with me. It's not wrong to be very thin. There are women who are born this way, take great care of themselves, and have very thin figures. I do not, however, see thin women with scowling faces such as those we see in movies such as THE SHINING. Thin women do not typically carry themselves with such deportment. Meanwhile, thin women have coloring in their complexions. Thin women smile. Thin women do not have facial expressions that resemble women walking behind coffins. Thin women do not look at other women as though that other person is a low life who doesn't deserve more than an askance glance. Thin women look healthy and reflect an image that offers others the hope that a beautiful frame can be obtained through really of good choices and actions. They don't reflect an image that implies, "One more step towards me , and I'm going to kick you."

I'm not even that thin. I'm just taking whole-hearted umbrage that Coach implies that women may or cannot look bold, strong, happy, confident, peaceful and in charge. The models here imply that timid, weak, unhappy, conflicted meekness is what characterizes that "road" to womanhood that this campaign aims to portray.

Once, shame on them. Twice....well, I have my answer.

Totally agree!! I don't care if it's "runway," those images were awful. Definitely not the type of look I would want my 9 year old daughter to think is fashionable. And I don't think it makes sense for a brand to suddenly declare itself as "edgy" or whatever vibe they were going for, instead of making a gradual transition if that's what they want to do.

 

[momtok]

What I see, which I admit has me worried, especially in combination with that bad earnings/stocks report recently, is that the changes keep coming not only fast and furious, but keep bouncing in all sorts of different directions. I guess what I'm saying is that change is one thing, especially if that change picks a specific direction and really goes with it, especially consistently. That is, thinking it through, not being reactionary, and then being determined.

But if you track through Legacy, Madison changes, Poppy changes, removal of so many other lines, then the most recent capsule collections that seemed to go in one clear direction, now this, which seems to go in an entirely different direction ... it sort of feels like an out of control spring bouncing wildly in all directions. I hate to use the word, but taken as a whole, it's starting to look more like flailing wildly (in terms of direction) these last couple years. Combined with the problems they admitted having with Legacy sales some time ago, then combined with the more recent admission of financial problems, the whole thing sort of makes me cringe ... partially in concern, and partially in embarrassment for them, just to see such wild flailing. :-/ :-/ Believe me, I'm not reveling. I'm cringing. And quite sad over this impression.
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[ponytail]

Absolutely! Coach doesn't have the numbers they want. They obviously have to do something different to obtain different results. Enter Stuart Vetters. Runway show. A lot of people talking about Coach right now with TPF being a teeny tiny part of a percent. Different is happening. How much.... how long....will it work....only time and sales will show that. If InstaGram can be any indication and I don't know it it can.....he hit it out of the park. I'm rooting for him and Coach.... I like a lot of the bags I've seen in pictures....I'm too old for grunge....dislike hip hop...my style for work has to be professional.... out of work I can be classy and ladylike....I can be a rocker.... I can be edgy.....I love diversity!

Many of the comments on InstaGram are saying the same things about the models and this campaign. If he wanted people taking-he succeeded . However, I don't think he wanted people to overlook his new designs like they are doing.